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  25. # [00:30] <mobile8> If someone asks me. can you analyse my site, for any possible improvements, what type of stuff is likely ment?
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  27. # [00:33] <wolfgang42> mobile8: Parse error. Please rephrase your request into intelligible English sentences.
  28. # [00:35] <dannydagger> anyone know how this auto-minimizing menu is done? http://kerem.co/
  29. # [00:36] <mobile8> wolfgang42: which element of the sentence is gramatically incorrect?
  30. # [00:37] <wolfgang42> "If someone asks me.": sentence fragment.
  31. # [00:37] <wolfgang42> "what type of stuff is likely ment?": Ment [sic] by who?
  32. # [00:37] <wolfgang42> I could go on.
  33. # [00:37] <wolfgang42> Simply put, your sentence is not interpretable into a question which can be responded to.
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  35. # [00:37] <mobile8> I know, its pretty vague, sorry
  36. # [00:37] <mobile8> but this is literally what someone asked me
  37. # [00:38] <wolfgang42> Ask them for clarification then...
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  53. # [00:57] <dannydagger> anyone know how this auto-minimizing menu is done? http://kerem.co/
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  80. # [01:57] <dahlfors_> oh, he left already
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  133. # [03:35] <dannydagger> i really want to make a navbar like this, can someone please help me? http://kerem.co/
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  136. # [03:37] <llamapixel> dannydagger: you were here yesterday, what is special about it, all I see is some simple fade elements on a grey background
  137. # [03:38] <dannydagger> llamapixel: I still can't make it work :/ i want to do the minimize effect when i scroll down
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  139. # [03:39] <dannydagger> even with the inspection mode and all, i don't know what css to copy from it.. its a whole lot of css on every line of html
  140. # [03:39] <llamapixel> i hazard a guess to look into the css style called top-bar
  141. # [03:39] <llamapixel> http://kerem.co/css/app.css
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  144. # [03:41] <dannydagger> thx gonna check it out
  145. # [03:42] <llamapixel> Here is something close as well dannydagger http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6713324/how-to-shrink-navigation-menu-when-scrolling-down
  146. # [03:42] <dannydagger> damn its a whole lot of .top-bar classes on his app.css
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  148. # [03:43] <llamapixel> yeah the 2nd link might make it easier to understand or at least mimic it
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  150. # [03:43] <dannydagger> thx gonna check
  151. # [03:43] <dannydagger> the thing is
  152. # [03:44] <dannydagger> i actually want this navbar, but with the shrink-when-slide-down-effect: http://www.erikford.me/
  153. # [03:44] <dannydagger> but even that menu i can't do, i don't know how to make that square background effect on the links on hover
  154. # [03:44] <llamapixel> It doesn't shrink in firefox
  155. # [03:45] <dannydagger> no http://www.erikford.me/ doesn't shrink, but i want to combine that menu with the shrink effect
  156. # [03:45] <dannydagger> sry navbar, not menu
  157. # [03:45] <llamapixel> Make a test case and plug in what you find on the second link. isolate to an example
  158. # [03:46] <EwokFartPorn> ^
  159. # [03:46] <dannydagger> yeah gonna give it a try
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  161. # [03:46] <EwokFartPorn> Don't worry about a bunch of task, just make a working example of the menu
  162. # [03:46] <EwokFartPorn> Then worry about making it responsive later.
  163. # [03:48] <dannydagger> EwokFartPorn: yeah, but with that erikford.me site, I don't know where to find the background effect css which I want.. if I'd know that it would be a start
  164. # [03:49] <EwokFartPorn> dannydagger: here's a start http://jsfiddle.net/rD2Za/
  165. # [03:50] <EwokFartPorn> Now make it happen, Captain!
  166. # [03:52] <EwokFartPorn> Well, prolly more like this - http://jsfiddle.net/rD2Za/1/
  167. # [03:52] <EwokFartPorn> But just think it out, use google, and code it.
  168. # [03:53] <dannydagger> well.. thanks hehe
  169. # [03:53] <EwokFartPorn> No problem. We've all been there.
  170. # [03:54] <EwokFartPorn> Think it over. Do I need a hover on this element? Does css have it? Googles css hover
  171. # [03:54] <EwokFartPorn> Bam!
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  184. # [04:09] <Glycan> Hello, could anyone advice about http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17204169/why-doesnt-this-prettyphoto-element-work ?
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  191. # [04:18] <slowhands> EwokFartPorn: http://jsfiddle.net/rD2Za/2/
  192. # [04:18] <slowhands> oh sorry
  193. # [04:18] <EwokFartPorn> It's ok baby.
  194. # [04:18] <slowhands> dannydagger: http://jsfiddle.net/rD2Za/2/
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  196. # [04:20] <EwokFartPorn> Glycan: see #jquery
  197. # [04:21] <dannydagger> slowhands: thx but nothing happens.. i just see a black top and a grey bodybg
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  199. # [04:22] <slowhands> scroll down
  200. # [04:22] <dannydagger> i did.. nothing happens it all stays the same
  201. # [04:22] <slowhands> http://jsfiddle.net/rD2Za/3/
  202. # [04:22] <slowhands> had to tweak the variables maybe
  203. # [04:23] <dannydagger> hmm it only works when i reach the bottom and keep scrolling
  204. # [04:24] <slowhands> yeah
  205. # [04:24] <slowhands> well thats a start. you can smooth it out
  206. # [04:24] <slowhands> use some easing
  207. # [04:24] <slowhands> probably best done in css3
  208. # [04:24] <slowhands> if you want to see that version
  209. # [04:25] <dannydagger> alright thanks alot man
  210. # [04:26] <dannydagger> i am trying to emulate that version of the navbar that is on the erikford site
  211. # [04:26] <dannydagger> http://jsfiddle.net/Jkdc6/
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  238. # [04:50] <slowhands> css transitions are much smoother btw
  239. # [04:50] <slowhands> http://jsfiddle.net/rD2Za/5/
  240. # [04:50] <slowhands> if anyone still cares
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  246. # [04:56] <bencc> does html5 audio support live streams?
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  248. # [04:57] <bencc> receiving live mic stream broadcasted to the server
  249. # [04:57] <llamapixel> mic stuff is still fairly crud
  250. # [04:57] <bencc> llamapixel: receiving not broadcasting
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  252. # [05:00] <grantg> paul_irish: http://i.imgur.com/fvFEJOL.png
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  254. # [05:01] <grantg> typed array buffer view patch just landed and now more games run fullspeed in my js gba emulator. :P
  255. # [05:02] <grantg> also optimized around arm aligned loads and stores
  256. # [05:02] <grantg> rather than the general catch all 8-bits at a time
  257. # [05:04] <grantg> and the dynarec core hasn't even landed yet :P
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  262. # [05:10] <slowhands> was that done with asm.js?
  263. # [05:10] <slowhands> using it i mean
  264. # [05:11] <grantg> no
  265. # [05:11] <grantg> it's all hand coded
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  267. # [05:12] <grantg> see https://github.com/grantgalitz/IodineGBA
  268. # [05:12] <slowhands> thats awesome
  269. # [05:12] <grantg> it's what I've been working on since I finished gameboy-online
  270. # [05:13] <slowhands> I'm racked. where did you start?
  271. # [05:13] <slowhands> did you port from an existing project?
  272. # [05:13] <grantg> it's not a port
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  274. # [05:14] <slowhands> wild
  275. # [05:15] <grantg> need to fix some more offsets in the gfx core
  276. # [05:15] <grantg> screen trash in a hell of a lot of games
  277. # [05:15] <grantg> the cpu core passes an arm cpu test rom
  278. # [05:15] <grantg> so it's bugs elsewhere xD
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  281. # [05:16] <slowhands> how did you know the specs on each component
  282. # [05:16] <grantg> hmm?
  283. # [05:16] <slowhands> from cpu, sound, graphics
  284. # [05:16] <grantg> cpu is an arm7tdmi, it's public access from arm inc's own website
  285. # [05:17] <grantg> implementing the armv4t instruction set
  286. # [05:17] <slowhands> got it
  287. # [05:17] <slowhands> very cool
  288. # [05:17] <grantg> gfx and sound are documented publicly
  289. # [05:17] <slowhands> thats what i was getting at. didn't know how to ask
  290. # [05:17] <grantg> if you actually google
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  292. # [05:18] <grantg> heh, the audio is clipping badly on some games
  293. # [05:18] <grantg> probably need to change a bitshift left
  294. # [05:19] <slowhands> do you still need the typed array shiv
  295. # [05:20] <grantg> yes
  296. # [05:20] <grantg> for older browsers
  297. # [05:20] <grantg> I like keeping compat
  298. # [05:20] <grantg> but browsers that support typed arrays will run it faster
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  300. # [05:20] <grantg> as they can do less array accesses
  301. # [05:20] <slowhands> got it
  302. # [05:21] <grantg> as they can do full 32 bit accesses
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  304. # [05:21] <grantg> rather than the fallback 8
  305. # [05:21] <slowhands> true
  306. # [05:21] <slowhands> now i can play GBA at my horrible corporate job
  307. # [05:22] <slowhands> and look like I'm doing work. only catch is ill probably have to edit your source in visual studio
  308. # [05:22] <grantg> eh
  309. # [05:22] <grantg> too buggy
  310. # [05:22] <grantg> right now a lot of games "work"
  311. # [05:22] <grantg> but with graphics and/or audio bugs
  312. # [05:22] <grantg> I need to bug hunt these issues
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  314. # [05:23] <slowhands> ill let you know via issues
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  316. # [05:25] <slowhands> have you tried running LSDJ on gameboy-online
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  318. # [05:29] <grantg> yeah
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  362. # [06:57] <bozonius> tried to find a specific channel for this question; this is as close as I could get, so here goes
  363. # [06:58] <bozonius> what is the status of xforms and other alternatives to generic html forms
  364. # [06:58] <bozonius> seems, from my reading, that mozilla dropped xforms for a while, but now there is a new 2.0 spec
  365. # [06:58] <bozonius> and I am wondering if this is serious or if I should be looking in a different direction?
  366. # [06:59] <bozonius> anyone here know what is going on, generally speaking?
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  633. # [14:55] <Zqckfair> Hello @all, I was wondering if new phones are all compatibles with html5 cssa3 technologies ?
  634. # [14:58] <dahlfors_> it varies what they support and how much.
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  638. # [14:59] <dahlfors_> ios & android have had alright support, I'm unsure about windows phone
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  640. # [15:01] <Zqckfair> Thank you dahlfors_
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  642. # [15:01] <dahlfors_> css3 is in general well supported
  643. # [15:02] <dahlfors_> far better than older ie versions :)
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  645. # [15:02] <dahlfors_> you might want to check out jquery mobile and sencha ui js libs as well if you are working on interfaces for mobiles
  646. # [15:02] <dahlfors_> might help you depending on what you do
  647. # [15:05] <Zqckfair> I'll check both now thank you
  648. # [15:06] <Zqckfair> more specifically sencha
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  667. # [15:36] <Zqckfair> What is the bestway to output an IRC chat in a website (like this one)
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  669. # [15:37] <Buck> you create a symbolic link to your logfile inside your htdocs folder
  670. # [15:37] <Buck> or a hard link
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  792. # [18:11] <n-iCe> hello
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  797. # [18:16] <maximiliansr> hi
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  800. # [18:19] <n-iCe> maximiliansr: you do html5 sites?
  801. # [18:19] <maximiliansr> yes
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  803. # [18:20] <n-iCe> I would like to learn, you have any good tutorials?
  804. # [18:20] <n-iCe> I want to create a site, nothing amazing though.
  805. # [18:21] <maximiliansr> w3schools is nice for beginning
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  808. # [18:23] <Zqckfair> w3schools is full of shit
  809. # [18:23] <Zqckfair> go with a pro book
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  815. # [18:26] <Zqckfair> "e feel, though, that W3Schools is harming the community with inaccurate information. Like any other authoritative educational resource, W3Schools should both hold itself to, and be held to, the highest standards.
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  817. # [18:26] <Zqckfair> .
  818. # [18:26] <Zqckfair> .
  819. # [18:26] <Zqckfair> .
  820. # [18:26] <Zqckfair> W3Schools.com is not affiliated with the W3C in any way. Members of the W3C have asked W3Schools to explicitly disavow any connection in the past, and they have refused to do so."
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  827. # [18:33] <dahlfors_> http://www.webplatform.org/
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  829. # [18:34] <dahlfors_> the aim of web platform is to become the one place to go to for learning web related stuff
  830. # [18:34] <dahlfors_> still a wiki project early on, but I guess there are a few things to pick up there
  831. # [18:35] <dahlfors_> I think you should be able to find some useful resources here, http://movethewebforward.org/
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  833. # [18:35] <dahlfors_> also, I'd sign myself up to the javascript and html5 mailing lists
  834. # [18:35] <graphettion> http://www.w3fools.com/
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  836. # [18:35] <dahlfors_> http://html5weekly.com/
  837. # [18:35] <dahlfors_> http://javascriptweekly.com/
  838. # [18:35] <dahlfors_> I've really liked the content in those mailing lists
  839. # [18:36] <dahlfors_> and I'm not much of a mailing list reader in general
  840. # [18:36] <graphettion> dahlfors_: Thanks for those sources.
  841. # [18:37] <dahlfors_> you're welcome
  842. # [18:41] <dahlfors_> alistapart.com is one of the old-school sites for web dev as well, been around since forever
  843. # [18:42] <dahlfors_> some howto's and articles reasoning on why to do one thing or another. but beware, a lot of the older material is outdated today
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  845. # [18:43] <dahlfors_> in general; if you find a technique for doing something, be sure to google around with similar keywords for the solution to find pros & cons, or other methods
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  847. # [18:43] <dahlfors_> I've done web development since 96, and methods easily grow old in 2-4 years...
  848. # [18:43] <dahlfors_> :)
  849. # [18:45] <dahlfors_> and I can agree on the w3schools. however, some of the examples they have are nice. but if you ever use something from that site, keep in mind to double-check from other sources, and question the material they have there...
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  852. # [18:47] <dahlfors_> w3schools is a company with an agenda, they live on their ads and services, their main aim is to earn money on their business by ranking high and getting in users. having lots of content and material is core to their business, having quality on their material is probably not prioritized as much...
  853. # [18:47] <dahlfors_> hence, a wiki project like webplatform should be very successful in the long run, made by web devs for web devs..
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  970. # [21:01] <d4rklit3> so it has come to my attention
  971. # [21:01] <d4rklit3> that using pushState lags JS execution
  972. # [21:01] <d4rklit3> so if you animations that play between history changes they get all messed up and have to be put on a delay
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  1074. # [22:42] <David_Bradbury> In which browsers?
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  1082. # [22:46] <grantg> haters gonna hate kirby in dreamland - http://imgur.com/a/pJG2Y
  1083. # [22:47] <grantg> more bug fixes so it's not glitching on gameplay now
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  1086. # [22:49] * grantg thinks V8 is busted to be running 25% slower than firefox nightly. ._.
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  1089. # [22:50] <David_Bradbury> I wish I had the motivation to write a proper emulator. I've done a basic opcode reader and some 6502 work for an NES project, but I can never seem to get the motivation to write something fully funcitonal
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  1091. # [22:52] <grantg> it takes a long time
  1092. # [22:52] <grantg> IodineGBA was prototyped in 2010 and work started in 2012
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  1094. # [22:52] <grantg> and it's now things are coming together
  1095. # [22:53] <grantg> work was going when I was still writing gameboy-online aka gb-emu
  1096. # [22:54] <grantg> I wonder if we could take my core and make an android emulator :P
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  1098. # [22:54] <grantg> the arm/thumb cpu core passes cpu tests
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  1100. # [22:54] <David_Bradbury> Heh. You're rendering to a 2D canvas context, yes?
  1101. # [22:55] <grantg> only the *final* image
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  1103. # [22:55] <grantg> actual graphics stuff is software rendered in js
  1104. # [22:55] <grantg> scanline rendered internally
  1105. # [22:56] <David_Bradbury> Figured as much. Have any future plans for being able to write other filter types?
  1106. # [22:56] <grantg> not sure
  1107. # [22:56] <grantg> not at this moment
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  1109. # [22:58] <David_Bradbury> I threw together a hqx filter in JavaScript a long while ago that might be portable
  1110. # [22:58] <grantg> if I can pass a 240x160 framebuffer into it, then I don't see why not
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  1114. # [23:00] <David_Bradbury> Hmm. I'm at work right now but I'll see if I can grab it later. That shouldn't be an issue
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