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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jun 22 00:00:00 2013
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  7. # [00:05] <dannydagger> do i need to apply parallax scrolling to make a site like this, or have they used another technique? http://www.case-3d.com/
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  9. # [00:09] <Stumbler> looks like a combination of parallax scrolling and image masks to me.
  10. # [00:09] <Stumbler> but I just glanced at the interface, not the source.
  11. # [00:09] <dannydagger> ah ok
  12. # [00:10] <graphettion> That site is using jQuery and AJAX.
  13. # [00:10] <graphettion> It does use a scroll effect.
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  15. # [00:11] <dannydagger> cool, what is the AJAX used for?
  16. # [00:11] <graphettion> Loading stuff without refreshing the page
  17. # [00:12] <graphettion> Like Google Maps
  18. # [00:12] <dannydagger> can't that be done without ajax?
  19. # [00:12] <graphettion> Yeah.
  20. # [00:12] <graphettion> Not sure why they did it with ajax, but w/e.
  21. # [00:13] <d3m0n> graceful loading most likely
  22. # [00:14] <graphettion> I've actually never done this before. Do you need ajax to do the mask effect?
  23. # [00:15] <dannydagger> mask effect?
  24. # [00:15] <graphettion> The image effect.
  25. # [00:15] <graphettion> I g2g
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  167. # [04:16] <dannydagger> can someone please explain this to me? why is it that when you inspect the site with firebug.. the <div id="big-video-wrap"> is there right under body, but when you view the page source, it is not in there?
  168. # [04:18] <dannydagger> oh sry forgot to post link: http://wbpreview.com/previews/WB0L500N4/
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  184. # [04:37] <grantg> god
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  186. # [04:38] <grantg> adding spurious " | 0" in function calls made firefox 50% faster
  187. # [04:38] <grantg> and it's not even asm.js declared code
  188. # [04:38] <grantg> for once firefox doesn't suck
  189. # [04:39] * grantg is adding random bitwise ors against zero in IodineGBA as a magic sauce... and it worked
  190. # [04:40] <grantg> dat explicit typing by an abused language construct
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  198. # [04:50] <grantg> http://i.imgur.com/2uCov0X.png
  199. # [04:50] <grantg> lol 30% speed boost
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  230. # [05:54] <plimbot> Sorry, I'm very confused. Please, following the best practices of html5, I need add the property "alt" in all "img" tags? If I omit the "alt" the W3 Markup Validation does not validate the html5. What should I do? (sorry my bad english, it is not my native language)
  231. # [05:59] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: To answer your question, yes. You need to add alt tags for it to be valid. See http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input
  232. # [06:00] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: Type: <!DOCTYPE html><title></title><body><img src="blah.jpg" alt="">
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  234. # [06:01] <plimbot> EwokFartPorn: and if the image is merely the layout? eg: an icon illustrating a topic.... is still required alt?
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  236. # [06:01] <_amg> those should be css backgrounds
  237. # [06:03] <EwokFartPorn> Alt tags are not required on those.
  238. # [06:03] <EwokFartPorn> (css backgrounds)
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  241. # [06:05] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: In that case, all it sees is this (which passes): <!DOCTYPE html><title></title><body><div class="bg"></div>
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  245. # [06:12] <plimbot> sorry.. I did not understand right, it was not very enlightening.... please, this site: http://html.creaws.com/proway/ in the source code, the line: 273.. <img src="images/recent_work_icon_01.png" alt=""> this image is the layout, an illustrative icon.. In this case it is correct to use a blank value for the alt?
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  247. # [06:13] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: Any time you have <img> you need an alt tag.
  248. # [06:13] <EwokFartPorn> So yes.
  249. # [06:14] <EwokFartPorn> I just showed you an example of it above.
  250. # [06:14] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: Type: <!DOCTYPE html><title></title><body><img src="blah.jpg" alt="">
  251. # [06:15] <EwokFartPorn> alt is blank
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  253. # [06:15] <plimbot> perfect.. I get it now.. and I can use the blank "alt"..
  254. # [06:16] <plimbot> another issue that came up.. for this type of illustration in layout, an icon, should I use "img" or use css?
  255. # [06:16] <plimbot> (as said _amg)
  256. # [06:16] <EwokFartPorn> Depends what your achieving really.
  257. # [06:16] <EwokFartPorn> you're*
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  259. # [06:17] <EwokFartPorn> If it's just an icon or element you want to show on the page, typically <img>
  260. # [06:17] <EwokFartPorn> If it's a background, typically CSS
  261. # [06:18] <EwokFartPorn> But it really depends.
  262. # [06:19] <plimbot> I understood what you said... but I doubted the "depends".. depends on what exactly?
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  265. # [06:22] <EwokFartPorn> It depends on the situation. I'm just saying in general that is how it's used.
  266. # [06:22] <EwokFartPorn> Sometimes you might use special techniques.
  267. # [06:22] <EwokFartPorn> I'm just saying I cannot speak for all circumstances I guess.
  268. # [06:23] <EwokFartPorn> You can disregard the depends, lol
  269. # [06:23] <plimbot> EwokFartPorn: right.. thank you very much for your help and patience with my bad english.. lol :D
  270. # [06:23] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: Your English seems fine to me. You're very welcome.
  271. # [06:25] <plimbot> EwokFartPorn: thank you.. and I take this opportunity to invite you to the World Cup here in Brazil... ;-)
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  273. # [06:26] <EwokFartPorn> plimbot: I appreciate it but I'm not a futbol fan. Thank you though!
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  276. # [06:27] <plimbot> lol.. :) bye
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  278. # [06:27] <EwokFartPorn> see ya
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  280. # [06:28] <EwokFartPorn> Stumbler: Always entertainment. XD
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  392. # [09:40] <phpdude> can you guys look at my source code on my shopping cart when I click place order now, nothing happends it just sits there www.greenteabeans.com/beagle3/cart.html
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  406. # [09:55] <patsToms> phpdude, "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'validate' of undefined "
  407. # [09:55] <patsToms> cart.html:1209
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  412. # [10:03] <phpdude> hey pats
  413. # [10:03] <phpdude> thanks
  414. # [10:03] <phpdude> what do I need to do :)
  415. # [10:03] <_amg> lol
  416. # [10:05] <phpdude> can I make it so it does not need to validate but just send the form
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  418. # [10:10] <_amg> idk can you
  419. # [10:11] <phpdude> no
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  620. # [17:58] <daslicht> is therer a way to control how a browser handles divs which are marked as contentEditable?
  621. # [17:58] <daslicht> i have noticed that when you hit enter in firefox a <br> is added
  622. # [17:58] <daslicht> in chrome however the line is wropped into a div !
  623. # [17:58] <daslicht> >?
  624. # [17:59] <Buck> no
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  635. # [18:09] <daslicht> thats bad
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  656. # [18:57] * jorb writing a game in javascript.. bad idea?
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  660. # [19:12] <dhaber> jorb: great idea. Try #bbg
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  750. # [22:18] <bstro9000> hey, how do I get an SVG element to be positioned relatively within its parent? when i put it on the page, its absolutely positioned relative to the document and completely disregarding its parent container
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