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  17. # [00:16] <_biff> buck?
  18. # [00:16] <_biff> sorry i left the computer
  19. # [00:16] <_biff> :)
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  141. # [02:31] <phpbumb> I am trying to get my forum so that it redirects to craigslist after the user signs up, it displays the thank you page but does not redirect how do I get the code to redirect, please see my code here http://paste.scsys.co.uk/258155
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  238. # [05:04] <niftylettuce> Does anyone here know how to make a Context Menu for DESKTOP (not browser) via NPAPI plugin? Or could point me in the right direction? I know about Chrome's context menu, but I want DESKTOP specifically, installed via Chrome, similar to the .so .dll etc files in Chrome Remote Desktop. Been trying to reverse engineer that and figure out how it's done.
  239. # [05:04] <niftylettuce> /cc paul_irish
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  266. # [05:46] <jfernandez> If I just drew an image to a canvas, how can I find out the x,y coords so that I can draw a rectangle right below it?
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  268. # [05:48] <grantg> add the height to your offset
  269. # [05:48] <grantg> keep track of your widths and height
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  271. # [05:49] <jfernandez> for some reason, to get an actuate offset, I need to do img.height / 2
  272. # [05:49] <jfernandez> not sure why the x2 ratio
  273. # [05:51] <jfernandez> doh, nvm, figured it out
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  341. # [07:22] <Nancy2012> html5 drag n drop doesnt support on overlay window ??
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  345. # [07:28] <zLouD> Nancy2012: What does that mean?
  346. # [07:28] <Nancy2012> i m using html5 file uploader with drag n drop feature
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  348. # [07:29] <UserC479> hi
  349. # [07:29] <Nancy2012> when i load this div(holding file uploader code) on overlay window.. it doesnt work
  350. # [07:29] <UserC479> hi - anyone help me? i want to have a background image but the main content one colour - i've got the div's all set up
  351. # [07:29] <Nancy2012> but when i dont load it on overlay window.. which means on the parent window.. then it works
  352. # [07:29] <Nancy2012> any idea why??
  353. # [07:30] <zLouD> No, never did that but i'm interested in the solution
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  474. # [09:27] <rabiescat99> Oh. My. God.
  475. # [09:27] <rabiescat99> IE 11 will get WebGL.
  476. # [09:27] <moo-_-> rabiescat99: lol
  477. # [09:28] <moo-_-> what's next, sane update policy?
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  480. # [09:28] <rabiescat99> Hmm?
  481. # [09:29] <rabiescat99> It's better to release seldom but do it well.
  482. # [09:29] <rabiescat99> Solid, stable, etc.
  483. # [09:29] <rabiescat99> Reliable.
  484. # [09:29] <rabiescat99> Not constantly changing.
  485. # [09:29] <rabiescat99> But of course, TOO seldom is annoying.
  486. # [09:29] <rabiescat99> IE 6 comes to mind...
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  640. # [11:40] <_biff> hi...so what is the best practies for creating pixels in canvas fastly, looot of pixels
  641. # [11:40] <_biff> buck?:)
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  730. # [13:02] <zoie> hello, i'm trying to make a function in javascript which list the content of all the selected files, this is what i have so far: http://pastie.org/8081977 the problem is that when i use the array "output" to put it in element "list", the filereader may still be reading and output might still be empty; how can i fix that?
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  735. # [13:06] <GarethAdams> zoie: sounds like a ##javascript problem
  736. # [13:06] <zoie> ty GarethAdams
  737. # [13:07] <GarethAdams> zoie: no problem
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  784. # [13:47] <ome> Woh, so Chrome finally forked Webkit into a different project, I am not sure how I feel about this. :P
  785. # [13:47] <ome> Blink, fancy name.
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  803. # [14:06] <sunbeam> hi i've got a map, with some areas on it, i want these to be clickable
  804. # [14:06] <sunbeam> whats now a days the best way to accomplish this?:
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  813. # [14:11] <moo-_-> sunbeam: something like this http://davidlynch.org/projects/maphilight/docs/ ?
  814. # [14:12] <sunbeam> moo-_-: its one image
  815. # [14:12] <sunbeam> moo-_-: http://mattstow.com/experiment/responsive-image-maps/rwd-image-maps.html
  816. # [14:12] <sunbeam> consider that image
  817. # [14:13] <sunbeam> you see there are several shapes
  818. # [14:13] <sunbeam> how do i get all those coordinates of those shapes
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  821. # [14:13] <moo-_-> sunbeam: by exporting them from the orignal image editor
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  823. # [14:13] <sunbeam> moo-_-: like photoshop?
  824. # [14:14] <moo-_-> sunbeam: I guess your problem is Photoshop specific
  825. # [14:14] <moo-_-> sunbeam: or there are probably some applications which allows you to map shapes afterwards over the image and then export them
  826. # [14:16] <sunbeam> yea
  827. # [14:16] <sunbeam> something like that i need
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  842. # [14:34] <Johnny-> sunbeam you can do it with Illustrator
  843. # [14:34] <Johnny-> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/illustrator/cs/using/WS714a382cdf7d304e7e07d0100196cbc5f-636ca.html#WS714a382cdf7d304e7e07d0100196cbc5f-6361a
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  874. # [15:00] <sunbeam> Johnny-: yep thanks
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  913. # [15:24] <sunbeam> Johnny-: you ever did this?
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  926. # [15:36] <interop_madness> drag+drop question: if i drop files onto my div, the js drop handler correctly identifies the file inside evt.dataTransfer.files. if i try to drop mails from outlook, e.dataTransfer.files.length===0. i was under the assumption that both windows explorer and outlook share file representations (both OLE objects have data format "File"). so i wonder, what FORMATETC format is actually used for html5 file drops?
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  928. # [15:37] <interop_madness> drops from windows explorer additionally have "FileNameW", outlook only has "FileName"
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  991. # [16:39] <Harzilein> is there a command line utility to split a html5 document into documents containing sections according to the outlining heuristics (i.e. with a flat <h1>something</h1><p>associated content</p>...<h2>... without usage of <section>?
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  1113. # [18:22] <jack_boss> while I do read the documentation, I noticed some javascript graph only work if the script is inside the appropriate div tag... I am asking b/c boilerplate and other frameworks suggest to add them at the bottom right before < /body>, do i have the guarantee that the graphs wil than always show if i outsouce the script into .js ?
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  1119. # [18:25] <patsToms> jack_boss, javascript graph?
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  1121. # [18:25] <jack_boss> somehow i can't get jqplot or flotr2 to work with bootsrap, the examples on the pages are pretty straight forward but coming from html4 to full blown html5 there is more code ... but less work when it works
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  1123. # [18:27] <jack_boss> i got jqplot to work like i mentioned, than wanted to test flotr2 the same way on a new div tag... now i am back at not seeing the graph form jqplot..
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  1125. # [18:27] <jack_boss> i just removed the actuall code i thought i added for flotr2, made no backup, now i screwd it up again
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  1127. # [18:28] <jack_boss> patsToms: yes, so to speak
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  1129. # [18:30] <patsToms> I think jqPlot howe nothing to do with HTML5
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  1132. # [18:30] <patsToms> do you have any errors on console?
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  1137. # [18:34] <jack_boss> patsToms: starting over with flotr2
  1138. # [18:35] <patsToms> you can try to show your code
  1139. # [18:35] <patsToms> thren we can help you
  1140. # [18:35] <patsToms> s/thren/then
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  1144. # [18:36] <jack_boss> patsToms: ok, we will see how i do this time
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  1165. # [18:48] <patsToms> why w3c validator?
  1166. # [18:49] <patsToms> aren' t you using javascript to achive that?
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  1312. # [21:29] <mokush> any of you guys make money from ads on your oss projects pages?
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  1318. # [21:37] <moo-_-> mokush: no
  1319. # [21:37] <moo-_-> and donations either suck
  1320. # [21:37] <mokush> moo-_-: why not? (I'm not asking as a joke or sarcastic)
  1321. # [21:37] <moo-_-> mokush: not enough volume
  1322. # [21:37] <moo-_-> or depends what kind of money you are looking into
  1323. # [21:37] <moo-_-> you can squeeze in something like 20 USD / mo
  1324. # [21:38] <moo-_-> but that's not really worth of the problem
  1325. # [21:38] <moo-_-> you should be something like jquery-class to have any sustainable funding that way
  1326. # [21:39] <mokush> moo-_-: I'm not really looking for something like full-funding, but anything above $100/month wouldn't be too bad
  1327. # [21:39] <moo-_-> mokush: what kind of a project?
  1328. # [21:40] <mokush> and was wondering if there was some sort of not-invite-only fusion ads-like alternative
  1329. # [21:41] <mokush> I remember seeing something like that at one point, only for oss projects if I remember correctly, but I can't recall it's name
  1330. # [21:41] <moo-_-> mokush: start with https://www.gittip.com/
  1331. # [21:41] <moo-_-> it doesn't bring a lot of money
  1332. # [21:41] <moo-_-> but is a start
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  1334. # [21:41] <moo-_-> you can see that top developers get 200 USD / mo
  1335. # [21:42] <moo-_-> like world superstars
  1336. # [21:42] <mokush> moo-_-: I was thinking maybe placing some minimal ads on the project pages for these here: http://ghinda.net/projects.html
  1337. # [21:42] <moo-_-> mokush: do you have google analytics how many page views you have?
  1338. # [21:43] <mokush> moo-_-: they're not much right now, but I'm planning on releasing some more soon, and was thinking if it would be possible to maybe reduce my paid work schedule to 4days/week, and get paid from ads/antyhing-else for the 5th day of the week
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  1340. # [21:43] <scottkellum> logistics of sharing cash with contributors would make me feel a) sleazy or b) like I am managing money not the project.
  1341. # [21:43] <mokush> I'm mostly curios if somebody managed to do something similar. (by somebody I mean non-webdev-superstar)
  1342. # [21:44] <scottkellum> OSS for love and good will is the way to go
  1343. # [21:44] <moo-_-> mokush: I have only heard failed stories
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  1345. # [21:45] <moo-_-> mokush: you can put in analytics and see if you get any meaningful magnitude of page views
  1346. # [21:45] <moo-_-> like million a month
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  1348. # [21:45] <mokush> scottkellum: that's true. but working free night shifts doesn't work forever
  1349. # [21:45] <moo-_-> g
  1350. # [21:45] <moo-_-> mokush: consultancy, IMHO, is the best way to get some support for your projec
  1351. # [21:45] <moo-_-> mokush: start selling your skill as a freelancer
  1352. # [21:46] <graphettion> ^
  1353. # [21:46] <graphettion> No one is forcing you to contribute to oos.
  1354. # [21:47] <graphettion> It's still a good portfolio to freelance.
  1355. # [21:47] <scottkellum> +1 consulting/service business models. Look at Wordpress, Drupal and all
  1356. # [21:47] <moo-_-> I did something as a hobby, then I was hired for freelancer gig, then I quit my day job
  1357. # [21:47] <graphettion> Exactly. It's a word-of-mouth technique.
  1358. # [21:48] <mokush> problem is, you can't get on the consultancy-bandwagon unless you get to the magnitute of drupal, wp, jquery, etc.
  1359. # [21:48] <graphettion> You have to walk, dude.
  1360. # [21:49] <moo-_-> mokush: yes, there must be markets who are willing to pay
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  1362. # [21:49] <paul_irish> mokush: david desandro introduced some pay models with his projects
  1363. # [21:49] <paul_irish> i would look at that
  1364. # [21:49] <moo-_-> mokush: just as positive news, one of my friend just become a freelancer subcontractor for flowplayer project (if you are into media playeres)
  1365. # [21:50] <mokush> paul_irish: I'll look that up, thanks
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  1368. # [21:51] <mokush> so the best bet is to get clients to pay for open source code
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  1370. # [21:51] <scottkellum> I think this is a problem a lot of OSS devs have. Much easier for client type work but once I moved in-house it has become much more difficult to find time and justification for my projects
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  1372. # [21:52] <mokush> if I remember correctly, http://forecast.io/ used to have a 'sponsored by' banner a while ago, something like running they're own ad network. I see that didn't work out too well, since they've moved to fusion ads
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  1377. # [21:54] <scottkellum> Chris Eppstein managed to get LinkedIn to sponsor his time working on Compass. Google has 20% time.
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  1381. # [21:55] <mokush> scottkellum: problem is that you have to have a really great and popular project, to get actual sponsorship (which you can pretty much only get from the big corps)
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  1384. # [21:57] <scottkellum> yeah, totally, would love for someone to hire me to work on these things :)
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  1387. # [21:58] <mokush> paul_irish: is this what you were refering to http://desandro.github.io/open-source-aint-free/?
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  1395. # [22:06] <mokush> moo-_-: so you're freelancing now?
  1396. # [22:07] <moo-_-> no, I quit that
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  1400. # [22:07] <moo-_-> instead of stupid bosses you had stupid clients
  1401. # [22:07] <moo-_-> now I am working on a product startup
  1402. # [22:07] <moo-_-> you can only have stupid users
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  1404. # [22:08] <moo-_-> but I enjoyed my time while it lasts, travelled around the world and met most brilliant open source people
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  1406. # [22:08] <moo-_-> lasts/lasted
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  1409. # [22:09] <mokush> moo-_-: and didn't you think about starting your own startup, on oss?
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  1411. # [22:09] <mokush> things like mozilla's webfwd seem promising for oss startups
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