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  4. # [00:02] <mrc123> hello
  5. # [00:02] <mrc123> is there anybody out there?
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  28. # [00:28] <Johnny-> just nod if you can hear me
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  48. # [01:06] <zombie214> Fails: echo -ne "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: www.yahoo.com\r\nUser-Agent: m\r\n\r\n" | nc www.yahoo.com 80
  49. # [01:06] <zombie214> Works: echo -ne "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: www.yahoo.com\r\nUser-Agent: me\r\n\r\n" | nc www.yahoo.com 80
  50. # [01:06] <zombie214> Why?
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  56. # [01:10] <Toms5> hi, whats the best open source cms for the website with listings?
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  73. # [01:32] <zombie214> Toms5: if you have to ask the question, it's probably something like this http://www.bluehost.com/cgi/info/wordpress.html
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  141. # [03:14] <okee> Is there any particular reason my list won't go horizontal? I styled it with a class that has display:inline, but that didn't do it. http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal01.htm I am using html 5.
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  159. # [04:08] <ashman> do browser include a video encoder ? I read somewhere they don't , so how do they do video chat over html5 ?
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  170. # [04:22] <EwokFartPorn> ashman: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/
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  198. # [05:19] <phrozensilver> Hello
  199. # [05:20] <EwokFartPorn> yo
  200. # [05:21] <spokenn> Good evening, I am looking for a freelancer to fix a broken php calculator on a wordpress site. At the moment it only works on osx+chrome, I need it to work on an iPad 2 within the next 13 hours. Please send me a message if you are interested, thanks.
  201. # [05:22] <EwokFartPorn> spokenn: see ##php
  202. # [05:23] <spokenn> Thanks
  203. # [05:23] <EwokFartPorn> yw
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  206. # [05:27] <phrozensilver> How would you guys do a layout with a sidebar and content would you do <section id="main-content"></section><aside></aside>
  207. # [05:27] <phrozensilver> or would you use a div for the main content
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  230. # [06:23] <EwokFartPorn> Is anybody out there? Just nod if you can hear me? Is there any one home?
  231. # [06:24] <EwokFartPorn> Is there*
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  234. # [06:40] <phrozensilver> i nodded
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  237. # [06:42] <EwokFartPorn> lol
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  424. # [13:38] <h22> Guys, Is the tweetdeck __desktop client__ written on html5?
  425. # [13:38] <h22> I have neither mac nor windows to check that myself.. anybody?
  426. # [13:39] <seion> I am training a bunch of people on a android application, and wanted to make a kinda of "Emulator" on the web for them. I could just take all the screen shots and link them together. Just wanted to know if there is a better way of doing it? I have screen shots of every page of the app and want to make it interactive so if someone clicks on a button on the screen shot it takes them to the next screen shot, the back button takes them back.
  427. # [13:40] <h22> seion: Cut the big screenshot to smaller images and link each image (ajaxy link) to the screenshot it should direct to..
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  429. # [13:41] <seion> well I can use image maps, and link them to another page
  430. # [13:41] <seion> I just dont want to have 30 - 50 html pages
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  432. # [13:42] <h22> seion: You don't need to have more than a page.. just list all the imgs in seperate divs and use a hide-reveal ajaxy links
  433. # [13:42] <seion> ah
  434. # [13:42] <seion> that sounds like a good idea :)
  435. # [13:42] <h22> ;)
  436. # [13:42] <h22> seion: You can also do dynamic image tags.. ;)
  437. # [13:42] <seion> how would i get the back button working
  438. # [13:43] <h22> there is more than one way to get to the same page in the app?
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  440. # [13:44] <seion> ?
  441. # [13:44] <h22> When you wire a button on a page, You can go to the other page and wire the back button to the Original page..
  442. # [13:45] <h22> Nvm.. it's complicated.. :o
  443. # [13:45] <seion> but not if I do it all in one page
  444. # [13:46] <h22> seion: How many buttons (clickable thingies) does your app have in total?
  445. # [13:47] <seion> the frame or the android device only will have a back button, the apps navigation bar has about 5 buttons
  446. # [13:47] <seion> then those 5 buttons lead to pages that have a few buttons on them
  447. # [13:48] <h22> seion: I'm having trouble picturing your app.. So, If your UI is simple enough You can create a CSS mock of your app in no time (without using any images at all)
  448. # [13:50] <seion> hmm maybe, ill play around with it a little and see what I can come up with
  449. # [13:50] <seion> I did it before for a tv app and I used maps and javascript
  450. # [13:50] <seion> worked great but the back button didnt work well
  451. # [13:50] <seion> and was time consuming
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  455. # [13:52] <h22> seion: Yes, it's not worth it to mock a native app in html5.. It would seem Slower/less efficient and that is why people advise html5 app makers to try not to make it look like native apps
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  458. # [13:54] <seion> ok thanks h22
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  553. # [17:22] <jorb> whats the best way to send JSON over the net? text or binary
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  557. # [17:32] <ZombieJesus_> jorb: See ##javascript
  558. # [17:34] <jorb> done
  559. # [17:34] <jorb> thx ZombieJesus_
  560. # [17:34] <ZombieJesus_> jorb: yw
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  640. # [20:01] <echoSMILE> Hi. One question about SSL. If my web app is under SSL, that don't mean the websockets channel will be under SSL too right?
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  647. # [20:27] <okee> Can someone explain to me how the <article> tag is different from a regular <p> in Html 5?
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  649. # [20:32] <phrozensilver> p tag is just a block of text article could go around that
  650. # [20:32] <phrozensilver> like article could include a heading as well
  651. # [20:32] <phrozensilver> <article><h1>Article Title</h1><p>text</p></article>
  652. # [20:33] <phrozensilver> From HTML Doctor 'In addition to its content, an <article> element typically has a heading (often in a header element), and sometimes a footer. '
  653. # [20:33] <phrozensilver> good site to check out http://html5doctor.com/the-article-element/
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  663. # [20:45] <echoSMILE> Hi. One question about SSL. If my web app is under SSL, that don't mean the websockets channel will be under SSL too right?
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  689. # [21:43] <lacrymology> is xmlns valid html5?
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  705. # [22:18] <jarek> lacrymology: xmlns should be a valid attribute name
  706. # [22:19] <jarek> if you are using HTML5 with XML serialization (aka XHTML)
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  716. # [22:41] <Zelbinian> You probably get this question 100 times a day, but is this an appropriate channel for webdev n00bs to hang out in? Or would you recommend something else?
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  719. # [22:42] <HashNuke> hey all
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  724. # [22:46] <galant> can I find the text node in the element that has contenteditable and I am writing in?
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  726. # [22:48] <galant> can I fin number of characters from beginning to the caret/cursor position? in element or text node I am writing in? in the element there are text nodes and img elements
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  762. # [23:53] <Zelbinian> I am discovering that the hardest part of front-end web development is refraining from pulling your hair out in large chunks.
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  765. # [23:59] <dahlfors_> be happy that it's 2013
  766. # [23:59] <dahlfors_> it's nothing like what it was many years back...
  767. # [23:59] <dahlfors_> :)
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