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  167. # [03:50] <k_sze[work]> Is it a bad thing to declare a XHTML doctype but use HTML5 features like pushState?
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  169. # [03:55] <llamapixel> thats like crossing the streams! :P
  170. # [03:55] <llamapixel> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-relationship-between-html5-and-xhtml.html
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  302. # [06:11] <k_sze[work]> +1 for Ghost Busters :P
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  321. # [06:27] <Foxhoundz> I'm making a chrome extension that needs to store some data
  322. # [06:27] <Foxhoundz> Previously I used local storage for simple hashes
  323. # [06:27] <Foxhoundz> But it has gotten complex
  324. # [06:27] <Foxhoundz> I heard WebSQL has some issues when users access with browsers that support different schema versions
  325. # [06:27] <Foxhoundz> so what are my choices?
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  477. # [11:02] <quackgyver> Hey fellas and fellettes
  478. # [11:03] <quackgyver> Anyone know a good HTML5 wrapper for native apps?
  479. # [11:03] <quackgyver> Preferably OSX
  480. # [11:03] <quackgyver> well, native desktop apps, I guess.
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  486. # [11:08] <galant> animations for anniversaries on google homepage can't be viewed on mobile phones? Because they are done in canvas..
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  575. # [13:54] <quackgyver> Anyone know of a good HTML5 wrapper for producing native desktop apps?
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  578. # [13:56] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: some person asked the question earlier on this channel
  579. # [13:56] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: let me dig if I can find it
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  581. # [13:59] <Moo-_-> chromeless
  582. # [13:59] <Moo-_-> something
  583. # [13:59] <Moo-_-> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5031665/chromeless-chrome-web-apps
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  589. # [14:03] <quackgyver> Moo-_-: Thanks for the answer. I should probably clarify that I'm looking for something with a bit more of a frontend and less of an SDK. I'm not really a programmer, so I'm trying to get around that.
  590. # [14:03] <quackgyver> Your URL seems to suggest Awesomium, Berkelium and Chromium Embedded. I've used the former and it isn't any good, while the second one is what the former is a derivative of, and the last one is an SDK.
  591. # [14:03] <quackgyver> So neither would really work for me. :/
  592. # [14:04] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: so what you are exactly looking for?
  593. # [14:04] <Moo-_-> a service of some kind?
  594. # [14:04] <quackgyver> Just something with which you can export your HTML5 in a native wrapper, but without any programming skill requirements.
  595. # [14:04] <quackgyver> Or at least as little of that as possible.
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  597. # [14:05] <quackgyver> Awesomium would be ideal, but I've had bad experiences with it.
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  599. # [14:05] <quackgyver> There's a whole list on StackOverflow at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11015811/html5-desktop-wrapper-framework but I'm having a hard time discerning which option is the way to go.
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  602. # [14:06] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: I am afraid the thing you are looking for does not exist
  603. # [14:06] <Moo-_-> or at least is not as easy as you think
  604. # [14:07] <Moo-_-> maybe here http://www.appcelerator.com/
  605. # [14:07] <Moo-_-> if they have desktop version
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  608. # [14:10] <quackgyver> Moo-_-: According to the URL I just provided, Titanium is glitchy. ./
  609. # [14:10] <quackgyver> :/*
  610. # [14:10] <quackgyver> Which seems to be the case with most Titanium alternatives.
  611. # [14:10] <quackgyver> But I feel that there should at least be some option out there, heh.
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  619. # [14:20] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: I am afraid there isn't :I
  620. # [14:21] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit
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  628. # [14:27] <quackgyver> Moo-_-: Yeah I've heard of node-webkit. I'm gonna check it out, though I have a feeling it might be too complex.
  629. # [14:27] <quackgyver> We'll see. :)
  630. # [14:27] <quackgyver> Thanks for the input, and let me know if you find anything cool.
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  633. # [14:28] <Moo-_-> quackgyver: also, I suggest you learn programming to get on the level you feel comfortable working with desktop technologies :)
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  636. # [14:29] <quackgyver> Moo-_-: Yeah I am, but it's taking time. :)
  637. # [14:29] <quackgyver> Been doing some C++ on and off. It's cool stuff.
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  664. # [15:07] <galant> canvas hit regions are supported by older browsers?
  665. # [15:07] <llamapixel> caniuse
  666. # [15:08] <llamapixel> http://caniuse.com/#search=canvas
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  670. # [15:10] <galant> llamapixel, there isn't said there
  671. # [15:10] <llamapixel> dig in
  672. # [15:10] <galant> there is nothing on that website
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  674. # [15:11] <llamapixel> http://caniuse.com/#search=canvas.onclick isnt coming up you are right
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  676. # [15:12] <llamapixel> here is some data http://www.rgraph.net/blog/2013/january/html5-canvas-hit-regions.html#browser-support
  677. # [15:12] <llamapixel> whole bag of NO
  678. # [15:12] <galant> I have no idea how to make canvas drawings responsive to mouse events, if you know some link for reading on this please tell me thanks
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  680. # [15:13] <galant> thanks
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  682. # [15:13] <llamapixel> np it may have changed, that was about 6 back
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  707. # [15:42] <Unknown8934> hi
  708. # [15:42] <Unknown8934> any reason for "#html Cannot send to channel" in #html ?
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  715. # [15:51] <Johnny-> you must register with freenode
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  719. # [15:58] <Unknown8934> why
  720. # [15:58] <patsToms> because you are Unknown8934
  721. # [15:58] <patsToms> just don' t be unknown - register and you will be wellcome :)
  722. # [15:59] <Unknown8934> -NickServ- Unknown8934 has now been verified.
  723. # [15:59] <Unknown8934> -NickServ- Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited.
  724. # [15:59] <Unknown8934> cope with the circumstances
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  1156. # [22:51] <dgx> Hey all. I want to learn HTML5 - the most common thins to use - without audio, video, canvas. I have been using html/css and js(jquery mostly) - now I want to know the most needed things in HTML5/CSS3
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  1167. # [23:06] <patson> here's me with a dumb question again - can I get BOTH a WebGL and a 2D rendering context from a Canvas element?
  1168. # [23:07] <patson> (from a _single_ Canvas element, I mean, or can I only have one rendering context per Canvas?)
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  1170. # [23:10] <patson> ((and yeah, I'm not really in a position to 'try it and see' at the moment, and Google has failed me))
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