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  38. # [00:50] <mobile8> generating a pdf made for A5 format, has anyone done this yet based on CSS?
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  75. # [01:10] <wfpkhc> Good Morning all!
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  77. # [01:11] <wfpkhc> is anyone around to ask questions?
  78. # [01:11] <wfpkhc> is anyone around to answer questions
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  93. # [01:22] <jrochelly> hi guys!
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  95. # [01:24] <jrochelly> anyone building cool things to show?
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  98. # [01:24] <wfpkhc> hi
  99. # [01:24] <wfpkhc> i have an oldsite you can look at
  100. # [01:24] <jrochelly> hi wfpkhc!
  101. # [01:25] <wfpkhc> www.WolfPack.net.au
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  104. # [01:26] <jrochelly> nice! which language did you use?
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  106. # [01:26] <wfpkhc> xhtml
  107. # [01:26] <wfpkhc> but its getting old
  108. # [01:26] <jrochelly> hum
  109. # [01:26] <jrochelly> i have my own blog
  110. # [01:26] <jrochelly> would you like to see?
  111. # [01:27] <wfpkhc> .....sure -
  112. # [01:27] <jrochelly> http://jrochelly.com
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  114. # [01:27] <wfpkhc> (wonders if i should be scared if this is an attack via scripting language)
  115. # [01:27] <jrochelly> hum
  116. # [01:27] <wfpkhc> it does not appear to be :D
  117. # [01:27] <jrochelly> i guess not
  118. # [01:27] <jrochelly> i mean
  119. # [01:27] <wfpkhc> nice blog
  120. # [01:28] <wfpkhc> what did you build it in?
  121. # [01:28] <jrochelly> what i really what is to make dev friends
  122. # [01:28] <jrochelly> it's hosted on github, so, jekyll(ruby)
  123. # [01:28] <wfpkhc> well ..i dont know about this channel
  124. # [01:28] <wfpkhc> its mostly dead - well at least now
  125. # [01:28] <jrochelly> what is mostly dead?
  126. # [01:28] <wfpkhc> you should really protect your identity jrochelly
  127. # [01:29] <wfpkhc> (do you see lots of people talking right now)?
  128. # [01:29] <jrochelly> yeah, no!
  129. # [01:29] <jrochelly> why not?
  130. # [01:29] <wfpkhc> more people may talk later - when i am not here
  131. # [01:29] <wfpkhc> world time zomes - some people may be sleeping
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  133. # [01:29] <jrochelly> hum
  134. # [01:30] <jrochelly> you mean protect my id by changing the nick?
  135. # [01:30] <wfpkhc> you sound spanish or mexican or portugese
  136. # [01:30] <jrochelly> brazilian to be more precise
  137. # [01:30] <wfpkhc> not just changing your nick
  138. # [01:30] <wfpkhc> but by going to the #help channel and asking them to mask your ip address
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  195. # [02:47] <Jude> Where can i find the new features of html5....
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  348. # [07:02] <hayuto> hi will i be goood with two video src'es one webm and one mp4? without any HTML IFS ?
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  350. # [07:05] <gkatsev> hayuto: you can use the source element
  351. # [07:07] <hayuto> ii have '<video id="video_background" preload="auto" autoplay loop="loop"> <source src="./laisla.mp4" type="video/mp4"> <source src="./laisla.webm" type="video/webm"> chujowa przeglÄ…darka detected </video>
  352. # [07:07] <hayuto> im asking if its neccesery to use contitions
  353. # [07:07] <hayuto> or can i have both webm and mp4
  354. # [07:08] <hayuto> i tested a little and chrome doesnt even touch webm
  355. # [07:09] <hayuto> firefox syas it doesnt support mp4 and loads webm
  356. # [07:09] <hayuto> i dont know about other browsers
  357. # [07:10] <hayuto> ie9 doesnt touch webm neither
  358. # [07:11] <gkatsev> hayuto: put the webm source first
  359. # [07:11] <gkatsev> but yeah, you can have both
  360. # [07:12] <hayuto> ok i try it now
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  363. # [07:13] <hayuto> now chrome uses webm instead
  364. # [07:14] <hayuto> only ie9 uses mp4
  365. # [07:14] <gkatsev> is that a problem?
  366. # [07:14] <hayuto> i dont know
  367. # [07:14] <hayuto> i dont think it makes any difference?
  368. # [07:14] <hayuto> :D
  369. # [07:15] <gkatsev> as long as everyone gets the video, right?
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  372. # [07:16] <hayuto> ok thanks
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  437. # [08:49] <Serverket> hello, good night, I have an issue, can you look my code? the login is okay but when I click "salir(exit)" it doesn't do anything just stay in the same page and it has to send me to index.php http://paste.debian.net/hidden/647f929d/
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  457. # [09:15] <Serverket> hello, good night, I have an issue, can you look my code? the login is okay but when I click "salir(exit)" it doesn't do anything just stay in the same page and it has to send me to index.php http://paste.debian.net/hidden/647f929d/
  458. # [09:15] <Serverket> please :<
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  617. # [12:51] <tyty> hey there ! anyone tried Construct 2?
  618. # [12:52] <llamapixel> try the forum https://www.scirra.com/forum/
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  635. # [12:55] <tyty> I have no trouble with it, its just a real nice way to get into html5, thanks llamapixel !
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  642. # [12:56] <llamapixel> 259 pounds is an expensive way to "get into" html5
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  644. # [12:57] <llamapixel> Did I stuff up your linkboosting?
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  648. # [12:57] <tyty> I only used the free version, forces you to get clean code, and I thought about buying it, it was 30pounds, but maybe there was a higher price for commercial license yeah
  649. # [12:58] <tyty> yeah now that you say it it looks like i was advertising it
  650. # [12:59] <llamapixel> How did you find the experience so its not lost to blatant link boosting?
  651. # [12:59] <llamapixel> any pitfalls etc
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  656. # [13:00] <tyty> Not sure I get your point, but I liked the intuitive interface, stimulates curiosity, and I now wonder why all apps are not made in html5 so there are no more platform issues !
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  658. # [13:00] <llamapixel> It appears to be limited to development on one operating system family and 2d only
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  663. # [13:03] <llamapixel> so a $5000 indie cap to move up to business lic.
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  665. # [13:03] <tyty> well for now it was a good interface to connect with people with no knowledge of coding, kind of like the MIT thing, scratch, I mean its not like hardcode true notepad coding but if kids can get into this, cant get bad
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  667. # [13:04] <tyty> eww I didnt see that
  668. # [13:04] <tyty> where is gone all the freeware
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  672. # [13:05] <llamapixel> https://www.scirra.com/manual/168/supported-platforms
  673. # [13:05] <llamapixel> I guess its an interesting corner of the web
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  676. # [13:06] <llamapixel> https://www.scirra.com/manual/153/websocket
  677. # [13:07] <tyty> yeah evolved into freemium and datamining, what are you doing these days llamapixel?
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  679. # [13:08] <llamapixel> gamificaition but in my spare time mandelbulbing at the moment with glee https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3053655/fractal_oblivion_tweaked_audio.m4v
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  682. # [13:10] <tyty> studying gamification theory? or building something with it? neat fractals and ost, is it Phi related
  683. # [13:10] <llamapixel> I have submitted a proposal to make a system for a Chinese guy who has an advertising company in Japan, been waiting on stage 3 of the process
  684. # [13:12] <llamapixel> testing http://www.scirra.com/arcade/action/1694/my-irrational-fear-of-unicorns
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  687. # [13:13] <tyty> is it a method he can apply to all his products or something specifically designed for one he wants to sell
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  692. # [13:15] <llamapixel> It encapsulates the ad more into the games main loop making it harder to segregate with tools like adblock
  693. # [13:16] <tyty> Like ingame advertising, did you get good results? are you the one responsible for the awful banners no one wants to click? :)
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  695. # [13:16] <llamapixel> lots of left mouse message nonsense in this game but i see the game beyond that
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  697. # [13:17] <llamapixel> I used to make those awful banners in flash years ago for the bigger firms and no I didn't invent that process but its another couple of steps in the same process of thinking, but instead of a clear line between the two, the result is game media is art / ad
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  699. # [13:18] <tyty> anything online yet? You're doing this for money or are you into game developping also?
  700. # [13:20] <llamapixel> I worked for a wage/commision in webdev but moving over to gamedev and this is one strategy to make the jump
  701. # [13:20] <llamapixel> I dabbled in unity3d as well and looking at ios publishing
  702. # [13:21] <llamapixel> I have a sandbox of a game like choplifter in unity3d to go, just need a few more licences and time for assets and levels https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3053655/resQ/resQ.html
  703. # [13:21] <llamapixel> The demo is one level with all the objects of the intended levels and its a template for physics based games
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  706. # [13:24] <tyty> gotta reboot so unity works, ill keep it aside
  707. # [13:24] <llamapixel> ah the web plugin ok
  708. # [13:24] <tyty> you plan to launch your game, or is it just for practive
  709. # [13:24] <tyty> practice*
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  711. # [13:24] <llamapixel> launch this game, but use it as an arcade physics template for others
  712. # [13:25] <tyty> kind of like a level editor, arh I wish it could work straight up
  713. # [13:26] <llamapixel> yeah a sandbox template, you should be able to restart the browser only or I guess you are web based irc ing
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  715. # [13:26] <tyty> neh I got a client, and already restarted the browser
  716. # [13:26] <llamapixel> ok
  717. # [13:27] <llamapixel> There is a large group of people in #bbg if your main aim is browser based games without plugins and its a pretty good communiyt
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  719. # [13:28] <tyty> oh thanks ! But I was just fooling around, not a precise goal in mind. Its been years since ive went on IRC and it looked like it has changed a lot, after the bubble burst
  720. # [13:28] <llamapixel> hehe
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  992. # [18:11] <tangorri> is masonry still the best solution for dynamic grid layout ?
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  1000. # [18:18] <Gmac_> i have a css question: i have a gradient from white to nothing
  1001. # [18:18] <Gmac_> unfortunaltey the edge of the div is sharp
  1002. # [18:18] <Gmac_> so my gradient comes to an abrupt end and looks terrible on the edges
  1003. # [18:19] <Gmac_> wat can i do
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  1192. # [21:19] <bray9082_> An i right that CDN has more chance of being down?
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  1195. # [21:19] <Jabberwock> eh?
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  1197. # [21:19] <bray9082_> Why eh?
  1198. # [21:20] <Jabberwock> What CDN?
  1199. # [21:21] <bray9082_> Content delivery network
  1200. # [21:21] <bray9082_> for something like an HTML5 Video player
  1201. # [21:21] <Jabberwock> I know lol
  1202. # [21:21] <bray9082_> then why did you ask
  1203. # [21:21] <bray9082_> :P
  1204. # [21:21] <Jabberwock> I didn't
  1205. # [21:22] <Jabberwock> I didn't ask "What is a CDN?"
  1206. # [21:22] <Jabberwock> I asked "What CDN?"
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  1208. # [21:22] <bray9082_> ahh
  1209. # [21:22] <bray9082_> i do apologize for misunderstanding you
  1210. # [21:22] <bray9082_> but it's an HTML5 video player
  1211. # [21:22] <bray9082_> that i am talking about
  1212. # [21:22] <Jabberwock> Np. I'm not sure what your question it though.
  1213. # [21:22] <Jabberwock> Ok
  1214. # [21:23] <Jabberwock> You're asking if CDNs go down?
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  1216. # [21:23] <bray9082_> I am asking if potentially there is more risk of it being down the if i use self hosted
  1217. # [21:24] <Jabberwock> Most hosts don't allow video streaming.
  1218. # [21:24] <Jabberwock> It depends on your number of viewers too.
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  1220. # [21:24] <bray9082_> https://github.com/videojs/video.js/blob/master/docs/setup.md
  1221. # [21:24] <bray9082_> my number of viewers will be small because it's a local website
  1222. # [21:25] <bray9082_> used only on a kiosk where i work
  1223. # [21:25] <Jabberwock> ohhh
  1224. # [21:25] <Jabberwock> You're asking if you should host that JS file yourself?
  1225. # [21:25] <Jabberwock> If so, yes.
  1226. # [21:25] <bray9082_> essentially that is what i am asking
  1227. # [21:25] <Jabberwock> If it was the Google Maps API, I would say no.
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  1229. # [21:26] <bray9082_> oh god google maps would be huge without CDN
  1230. # [21:26] <Jabberwock> Google has pretty reliable uptime. I have no idea about js.zencdn.net.
  1231. # [21:27] <bray9082_> and i also have to look at my uptime
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  1233. # [21:27] <bray9082_> wether my internet will go down
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  1235. # [21:27] <Jabberwock> That's where you invest in multiple servers and load balancing.
  1236. # [21:28] <bray9082_> well i ment like if i only have LAN access
  1237. # [21:28] <Jabberwock> I'm confused.
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  1239. # [21:29] <bray9082_> having LAN only access is a reason i should self host it
  1240. # [21:29] <Jabberwock> Why does LAN matter?
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  1242. # [21:29] <bray9082_> the website is hosted on a local web server
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  1244. # [21:29] <Jabberwock> That should be on a LAN.
  1245. # [21:29] <bray9082_> yes\
  1246. # [21:30] <bray9082_> and if i end up with only LAN access CDN will be no good
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  1248. # [21:30] <Jabberwock> Oh, okay. Yes that is correct.
  1249. # [21:30] <bray9082_> yes
  1250. # [21:30] <bray9082_> that is another reason should self host ir
  1251. # [21:30] <bray9082_> it
  1252. # [21:31] <Jabberwock> I'm looking at the frequency of commits. There aren't a whole lot.
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  1254. # [21:31] <bray9082_> i will just self host it
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  1256. # [21:31] <Jabberwock> If it was an enterprise library that was constantly being updated then I would opt for the CDN.
  1257. # [21:31] <Jabberwock> but.. yeah.
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  1260. # [21:31] <bray9082_> It's not like i am low on disk space or speed at ALL
  1261. # [21:32] <bray9082_> i have like 250 MBPS and almost 30 TB of disk space
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  1263. # [21:32] <Jabberwock> If you are going to be serving the streaming video from your local web server out to the public then you'll probably run into problems with bandwidth.
  1264. # [21:32] <bray9082_> not public
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  1266. # [21:32] <bray9082_> only 1 computer with a kiosk for tours and stuff
  1267. # [21:33] <Jabberwock> lol, are you making an Apple-TV for the web?
  1268. # [21:33] <Jabberwock> ah
  1269. # [21:33] <bray9082_> no an apple tv
  1270. # [21:33] <bray9082_> but i will be using a MAC Mini
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  1272. # [21:33] <Jabberwock> I'd say you're golden then.
  1273. # [21:34] <bray9082_> yeap
  1274. # [21:34] <bray9082_> Mac mini with a touch screen for the controller/mouse/trackpad/et.c...
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  1276. # [21:35] <Jabberwock> Cool
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  1278. # [21:35] <bray9082_> wanna see what the site looks like
  1279. # [21:35] <bray9082_> ?
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  1281. # [21:36] <Jabberwock> ok
  1282. # [21:36] <Jabberwock> is it work safe?
  1283. # [21:36] <bray9082_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Site%202%20Alt/Index.html
  1284. # [21:36] <bray9082_> it is work safe yes
  1285. # [21:36] <Jabberwock> Are you on a Retina?
  1286. # [21:36] <Jabberwock> That doesn't fit on this regular MBP screen lol
  1287. # [21:36] <bray9082_> your correct
  1288. # [21:37] <bray9082_> but we have a 50 inch LED here so it's fine
  1289. # [21:37] <Jabberwock> Cool by the way.
  1290. # [21:37] <captainjamie44> That site has a scroll bar on my monitor
  1291. # [21:37] <bray9082_> what do you think of the feel of it
  1292. # [21:37] <captainjamie44> side scroll
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  1294. # [21:37] <bray9082_> what do you thin of the feel/theme
  1295. # [21:37] <Jabberwock> bray9082_: I like the color scheme. The layout could use some work.
  1296. # [21:38] <Jabberwock> imho
  1297. # [21:38] <bray9082_> well i didn't wanna make it to heavy
  1298. # [21:38] <Jabberwock> No, more appearling to the eye.
  1299. # [21:38] <Jabberwock> Simple rule: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/golden-ratio-in-moden-designs/
  1300. # [21:39] <bray9082_> what do you mean by layout tho
  1301. # [21:39] <bray9082_> do you mean like the black squares and stuff?
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  1303. # [21:39] <Jabberwock> The colors are fine.
  1304. # [21:39] <Jabberwock> Yes
  1305. # [21:39] <Jabberwock> I would follow the rule of 3rds or golden ratio
  1306. # [21:39] <captainjamie44> I think you should have all your content in a centered container
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  1310. # [21:40] <bray908__> or do you mean the golden rule that you sent me
  1311. # [21:40] <Jabberwock> Correct
  1312. # [21:40] <Jabberwock> Also called the rule of 3rds
  1313. # [21:40] <bray908__> ahh yes
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  1315. # [21:41] <Jabberwock> Excellent resource if you're into design: http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Interfaces-Jenifer-Tidwell/dp/1449379702
  1316. # [21:41] <Jabberwock> It explains the golden ratio and all kinds of other key concepts
  1317. # [21:41] <bray908__> meh
  1318. # [21:42] <bray908__> everyone who has seen it loves it so I'm just gonna stick with what i have
  1319. # [21:42] <Jabberwock> Not everyone :D
  1320. # [21:42] <Jabberwock> You asked.
  1321. # [21:43] <bray908__> true
  1322. # [21:43] <Jabberwock> I'm not saying it's bad at all. I'm saying it could easily be tweaked and become 100 times better.
  1323. # [21:43] <bray908__> yea it could
  1324. # [21:43] <bray908__> but i was put on this project without really knowing what i was doing
  1325. # [21:43] <bray908__> i don't know CSS
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  1327. # [21:43] <bray908__> so i'll just leave it for the next person to deal with
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  1330. # [21:44] <Jabberwock> Will you be standing on the left hand side of the screen?
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  1332. # [21:45] <bray908__> based on that comment I have something else to show you
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  1334. # [21:45] <Jabberwock> AngularJS would also benefit that site.
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  1337. # [21:46] <bray908__> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Site%202%20Alt/Building%20Magnets/Building%20Magnets.html
  1338. # [21:47] <Jabberwock> bray908__: Motion detection! Have the side bar move if you walk to one side of the screen or the other :D
  1339. # [21:47] <bray908__> in the new link there are menu bars on both sides of the screen
  1340. # [21:47] <bray908__> Jabberwock: :P
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  1342. # [21:48] <Jabberwock> You're missing a nice photo of Nicola Tesla too :(
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  1348. # [21:51] <bray9082_> whoever that is
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  1350. # [21:54] <graphettion> http://demo.themezilla.com/gridlocked/
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  1357. # [21:59] <graphettion> http://primero.progressionstudios.com/
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  1373. # [22:08] <bray9082_> do you think i should use a scrollbar on my website or not
  1374. # [22:08] <bray9082_> would that work well with a touchscreen
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  1381. # [22:15] <graphettion> bray9082_: You can use media queries, like the boston globe - http://www.bostonglobe.com/
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  1384. # [22:16] <bray9082_> Yes that's what i planned on doing
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  1387. # [22:16] <bray9082_> but do you think that is something that would work well on a touch screen or not
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  1389. # [22:17] <graphettion> Not sure how much it matters, if you have a lot of content then you'll need one.
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  1391. # [22:18] <bray9082_> Well I'm wondering if people will realize they can scroll or not
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  1394. # [22:19] <captainjamie44> Scroll bars look ugly
  1395. # [22:19] <captainjamie44> Use media queries
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  1398. # [22:19] <bray9082_> i think i misspoke
  1399. # [22:19] <bray9082_> i meant media queries
  1400. # [22:20] <bray9082_> but i don't know if everyone will realize they can scroll
  1401. # [22:21] <graphettion> bray9082_: You can use an indicator, like this - http://www.infinite-scroll.com/trigger.html
  1402. # [22:21] <bray9082_> well it will be a trouch screen
  1403. # [22:21] <bray9082_> so it wont show up unless someone click right on that spot
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  1407. # [22:23] <graphettion> bray9082_: I think if your users don't know how to use a scroll bar then they shouldn't be using your site.
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  1409. # [22:23] <bray9082_> well they know how to use one but just realizing that it's there
  1410. # [22:24] <graphettion> Usually if you see content cut off on a touchscreen, it's a hint.
  1411. # [22:24] <graphettion> I would think.
  1412. # [22:24] <bray9082_> :P
  1413. # [22:24] <bray9082_> in that case the answer is no they would't notice
  1414. # [22:24] <graphettion> That's my answer, yeah.
  1415. # [22:25] <graphettion> Sorry, should of gave you the short.
  1416. # [22:25] <bray9082_> most of my stuff is perfectly alined and doesn't cut off at the botton
  1417. # [22:25] <bray9082_> so there would be stuff under it but no one would be able to tell
  1418. # [22:25] <graphettion> May want to create an indicator.
  1419. # [22:25] <graphettion> of some sort if you're too worried.
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  1421. # [22:26] <bray9082_> or just not use them at all :P
  1422. # [22:26] <graphettion> That too.
  1423. # [22:26] <bray9082_> I think I'll just stay away unless i have a real need to use one
  1424. # [22:27] <graphettion> That's prolly the best idea. If user complains, fix then.
  1425. # [22:27] <bray9082_> yea
  1426. # [22:28] <graphettion> Users typically don't know what they want anyway.
  1427. # [22:28] <graphettion> So no use in wasting time.
  1428. # [22:28] <bray9082_> Well as you said users don't know what they want
  1429. # [22:28] <bray9082_> so i will be wasting my time no matter what i do
  1430. # [22:29] <graphettion> Welcome to web design.
  1431. # [22:29] <bray9082_> i finally get the template done and then they go and change it on me like 10 seconda after
  1432. # [22:30] <graphettion> I wouldn't allow too much changes, unless you're working for a company.
  1433. # [22:30] <bray9082_> I am
  1434. # [22:30] <graphettion> If you're working for a company, it doesn't matter.
  1435. # [22:30] <bray9082_> Fermilab if you know what that is
  1436. # [22:30] <graphettion> You get paid, it's them.
  1437. # [22:30] <bray9082_> exactly
  1438. # [22:30] <graphettion> Never heard of it until now.
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  1441. # [22:31] <bray9082_> basically until like a year ago it was the worlds largest physics lab
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  1447. # [22:34] <graphettion> bray9082_: Cool, I guess they're trying to catch up to the Large Hadron Collider folks, :P
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  1451. # [22:35] <bray9082_> Actually they were the largest until the Large Hadron Collider started then they shut there accelerator down because of the Large Hadron Collider
  1452. # [22:35] <bray9082_> my dad actually helped build the Large Hadron Collider
  1453. # [22:36] <bray9082_> Well actually I shouldn't say build i should say design
  1454. # [22:36] <graphettion> cool
  1455. # [22:36] <bray9082_> my dad was the engineer for the project
  1456. # [22:36] <bray9082_> One of them
  1457. # [22:36] <graphettion> sweet
  1458. # [22:37] <bray9082_> :P
  1459. # [22:37] <bray9082_> and now i am working here
  1460. # [22:37] <bray9082_> building a website
  1461. # [22:37] <bray9082_> without knowing CSS
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  1465. # [22:38] <graphettion> Economics, eh? *holds up beer glass*
  1466. # [22:39] <bray9082_> :P
  1467. # [22:40] <bray9082_> Cheers
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  1519. # [23:38] <galant> I have 6 paragraphs in a section, they have click event assigned, when I rotate by X axis the section for 360 deg I can't click and select the text from the 2 paragraphs that are on the bottom of the seciton others I can, they should change color on click, butwhen section is rotated 0 deg by X axis I can select text and click all paragrahs why?
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  1530. # [23:44] <daekano> I'm simulating a stop button with the JS Audio API by pausing and setting currentPosition to 0. When play is called next, what I'm assuming is the previous buffer frame plays before recontinuing playback from the beginning. Is there a way to avoid this or to clear that frame so it doesn't cause a potentially damaging transient?
  1531. # [23:44] <daekano> currentTime, not currentPosition. Sorry.
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