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  53. # [00:59] <teear> Good Evening
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  55. # [01:00] <teear> http://goat.cx/
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  63. # [01:09] <teear> Install HTML5 in yeer Fiat Uno, it has gone mobile
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  97. # [01:50] <teear> drink without shirt and socks
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  135. # [02:54] <teear> I'm gonna drink my juice without socks
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  137. # [02:55] <teear> ääsfuck
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  139. # [02:56] <teear> fuck yea
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  186. # [04:05] <mdkess> I'm trying to make a ladder where if you click an up or down button, the selected row of a table moves... up or down (http://jsfiddle.net/s5fJZ/5/). I want this transition to be smooth - is there some way to do this with CSS3?
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  188. # [04:06] <mdkess> (or some other technique)
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  554. # [11:22] <basiclaser> hallo, can anyone tell me about linking to a point further down in the page, like a 'skip to' button. is it just a href with a line number value or something?
  555. # [11:31] <gallant> so max age is one month, now is 24 july if someone visits the page today and then after 3 days on 27 july, but I have last modified on 25 july so he will get new version of the web page, then he visits the page on 30 july again, on 30 july will he get new verion of the webpage again - will he download the web page again or he will use the cached version of the page from 25 july?
  556. # [11:35] <moo-_-> gallant: cache is refreshed whenever the page is loaded again
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  559. # [11:36] <gallant> ok thanks
  560. # [11:36] <gallant> si the page will be valid for 27 july + 30 days?
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  563. # [11:43] <moo-_-> yes
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  575. # [12:14] <mobile8> Anyone in here ever made a template for A5 print?
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  601. # [12:37] <Captain_Crow> is html5 better than javascript?
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  608. # [12:45] <moo-_-> Captain_Crow: you are comparing apples to oranges.
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  611. # [12:45] <moo-_-> Captain_Crow: I suggest you go to site like http://html5.grooveshark.com/ for basic introduction
  612. # [12:45] <moo-_-> ops
  613. # [12:45] <moo-_-> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/
  614. # [12:45] <moo-_-> damn autocomplete
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  620. # [12:54] <Captain_Crow> so, html5 is just for adding audio or something?
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  625. # [12:59] <moo-_-> Captain_Crow: basically yes, but in much much more wider scale
  626. # [13:00] <moo-_-> audio, video, camera, more semantic elements, etc.
  627. # [13:00] <Buck> is completely separate from js though
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  635. # [13:04] <moo-_-> Buck: not really, HTML5 though not intended, is used as umbrella term for new JavaScript APIs
  636. # [13:04] <moo-_-> Buck: depends on how much hairs you wan to split
  637. # [13:04] <Buck> well, it has bonds with js
  638. # [13:04] <Buck> but I mean in reply to this: Captain_Crow> [12:41:09] is html5 better than javascript?
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  658. # [13:27] <captainjamie44> In IE9 if I have a gradient on a button, it shows up fine. However, if I add a box shadow on top of that, it doesn't show. If I remove the gradient it shows fine. Hmm....
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  736. # [15:16] <Captain_Crow> is there a tag or code used for loading a .js file into a html page?
  737. # [15:16] <captainjamie44> <script src="file.js"></script?
  738. # [15:16] <captainjamie44> </script>
  739. # [15:17] <Captain_Crow> thanks
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  749. # [15:25] <Captain_Crow> whats the purpose of document.write(""); why not just write("");?
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  752. # [15:29] <moo-_-> Captain_Crow: for basic question. I suggest you take a basic HTML and JavaScript online courses like http://codeacademy.com/ - learning by asking everything which is not related to HTML5 on this channel probably will not help you a lot
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  754. # [15:30] <Captain_Crow> alright
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  815. # [16:15] <bray9082_> Can someone explain why i would get 2 different versions of my website based on which computer i open it from
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  822. # [16:18] <bray9082_> nevermind about that probelum
  823. # [16:18] <bray9082_> i have a different one now
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  826. # [16:19] <bray9082_> I'm here trying to add an HTML5 video to my website everything seems to work fine locally but when i open it up in Internet explorer it says "videojs is undefined"
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  828. # [16:21] <moo-_-> bray9082_: it is not possible to help you with the issue, as we need to be able to run the example on our computers. Your options 1) either duplicate the issue on jsfiddle.net, codepen.org or simlar code sharing service 2) format your question in a way "how do you learn to debug javascript" (and then we can point you to proper guides and online classes which you can spend few days learning)
  829. # [16:22] <bray9082_> Alright
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  833. # [16:24] <bray9082_> How about i give you a link to the site
  834. # [16:24] <bray9082_> will that work?
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  836. # [16:24] <bray9082_> moo-_-:
  837. # [16:24] <moo-_-> bray9082_: not really as I am not interested to debug someone else's code
  838. # [16:25] <moo-_-> I would be doing your work for you and I would need to touch IE
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  841. # [16:25] <moo-_-> there is only dowsides fo rme
  842. # [16:25] <bray9082_> alright
  843. # [16:25] <bray9082_> no harm done
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  845. # [16:25] <bray9082_> I'll figure it out myself
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  847. # [16:26] <moo-_-> bray9082_: which IE version?
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  849. # [16:26] <bray9082_> well that one the gave me is IE8
  850. # [16:26] <bray9082_> what i am thinking is HTML5 videos don't work in IE8
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  852. # [16:26] <moo-_-> bray9082_: they won't
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  854. # [16:27] <graphettion> You need flash for less than IE9.
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  856. # [16:27] <bray9082_> Thats what i thought
  857. # [16:27] <bray9082_> Thank you
  858. # [16:27] <graphettion> yup
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  861. # [16:28] <graphettion> bray9082_: Are you using a fallback HTML 5 video player?
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  863. # [16:29] <graphettion> like http://mediaelementjs.com/
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  865. # [16:30] <bray9082_> I would have thought being a government facility the IT department would be using at least IE9 with windows 7
  866. # [16:30] <graphettion> Think again.
  867. # [16:30] <bray9082_> the videos don't even show up in there place holder
  868. # [16:30] <bray9082_> would that be the case?
  869. # [16:30] <graphettion> It takes a lot of money to upgrade their machines. Especially if they're encrypted.
  870. # [16:31] <graphettion> Prolly, may want to contact them or contact someone who knows them to find out what browser their using.
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  872. # [16:33] <bray9082_> well i do know it's IE8
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  874. # [16:33] <graphettion> That requires flash, so yeah.
  875. # [16:33] <graphettion> That's it.
  876. # [16:33] <bray9082_> but i am here on a mac doing all of this so i never knew it was IE8
  877. # [16:34] <graphettion> Gotcha.
  878. # [16:34] <moo-_-> bray9082_: get this
  879. # [16:34] <moo-_-> http://opensourcehacker.com/2011/12/15/install-internet-explorer-6-ie9-virtual-machines-on-any-os-using-one-liner-script-and-virtual-box/
  880. # [16:36] <graphettion> ^ agreed
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  1011. # [18:16] <bray9082_> I am starting to hate my job as a web developer for the soul reason that people are hard to work with
  1012. # [18:17] <graphettion> Bartender! Bring bray9082_ another glass please.
  1013. # [18:18] <patsToms> haha
  1014. # [18:18] <bray9082_> I need to talk to the IT department about getting HTML5 videos working on there server but i can't show them that the videos don't work because they are using IE8
  1015. # [18:18] <bray9082_> right now they believe it's something with my coding
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  1017. # [18:18] <bray9082_> catch 22
  1018. # [18:20] <graphettion> bray9082_: http://jplayer.org/ http://mediaelementjs.com/
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  1021. # [18:21] <bray9082_> graphettion: That won't help me the problem is with the WEB server my videos play just fine locally and through dropbox
  1022. # [18:22] <graphettion> Bummer.
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  1024. # [18:22] <bray9082_> mmhmm
  1025. # [18:22] <bray9082_> like i said a catch 22
  1026. # [18:22] <graphettion> Is it a windows server?
  1027. # [18:23] <bray9082_> i don't work for the IT department so I'm not really sure the actually HTML files are stored on an smb server
  1028. # [18:24] <bray9082_> I think it is but i am not positive
  1029. # [18:24] <graphettion> On a positive note, you still get a paycheck while watching monkeys.
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  1031. # [18:25] <bray9082_> yea but i would like to be able to do a good job with what i do
  1032. # [18:25] <graphettion> Sounds like you cannot do anything else.
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  1034. # [18:26] <graphettion> You usually have to pay to get into the zoo.
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  1036. # [18:27] <bray9082_> I might be able to sneak around and talk to people i shouldn't and get the problem resolved
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  1039. # [18:28] <graphettion> Knowing the gov't, that'd prolly get you fired.
  1040. # [18:28] <bray9082_> knowing the place i work for that won't happen
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  1042. # [18:28] <bray9082_> I have known this place for years
  1043. # [18:29] <graphettion> That's cool, do that then.
  1044. # [18:29] <bray9082_> My dad actually has been working here for over 30 years so yea
  1045. # [18:29] <bray9082_> i plan on doing it
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  1048. # [18:30] <graphettion> Diplomatic immunity
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  1050. # [18:32] <bray9082_> graphettion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr7ZpXq5aiY
  1051. # [18:33] <graphettion> :)
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  1118. # [19:53] <Andre_designer> i have a question!! do someone a good tutorial about the basic page structure in html5?? it is a little bit confusing how i must structure a html5 page!!
  1119. # [19:54] <hober> Andre_designer: you probably don't need to change how you're currently structuring your pages.
  1120. # [19:54] <gho5t> use the <section> tags
  1121. # [19:54] <gho5t> ...for no reason
  1122. # [19:54] <gho5t> : )
  1123. # [19:54] <Andre_designer> ????
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  1125. # [19:55] <scottkellum> http://html5doctor.com/downloads/h5d-sectioning-flowchart.png
  1126. # [19:56] <hober> Andre_designer: see also http://edward.oconnor.cx/2009/09/using-the-html5-sectioning-elements
  1127. # [19:57] <Andre_designer> don understand how most use the <section> and <article>and the <aside> and <header> and <footer> tags
  1128. # [19:57] <Andre_designer> ow okay
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  1151. # [20:30] <bray9082_> The catch 22 is over it turned out they were using IE9 :)
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  1158. # [20:38] <graphettion> bray9082_: heh
  1159. # [20:38] <bray9082_> graphettion: was that a question?
  1160. # [20:39] <graphettion> bray9082_: No, half laugh
  1161. # [20:39] <bray9082_> Ahh
  1162. # [20:39] <bray9082_> they sent the issue to the correct people and there gonna have a look
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  1265. # [22:39] <aitiba> hi
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  1267. # [22:41] <aitiba> the navigator.geolocation.watchPosition() function of HTML5 geolocalization API give the new coordenates when the user move from the initial position ¿right?
  1268. # [22:41] <aitiba> I make a try
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  1271. # [22:42] <aitiba> give the initial position on the first call to the function and as a read when it move I gave the new coordenates but I cant try now
  1272. # [22:42] <aitiba> ¿someone can say if t is right?
  1273. # [22:42] <aitiba> please
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  1284. # [22:56] <asdfasd_> http://jsfiddle.net/uLGDP/1/
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