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  1. # Session Start: Sun Jul 28 00:00:00 2013
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  31. # [01:00] <galant> I am confused is html5 official name or html?
  32. # [01:00] <galant> for the html language
  33. # [01:02] <nicoman> i think html5 = html + css3 + javascript ... a comercial name :D
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  47. # [01:24] <Johnny-> lol
  48. # [01:24] <Johnny-> galant, nicoman: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/
  49. # [01:24] <Johnny-> "This specification defines the 5th major version, first minor revision of the core language of the World Wide Web: the Hypertext Markup Language (HTML)"
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  51. # [01:30] <galant> Johnny-, thanks
  52. # [01:30] <galant> lol Johnny- yesterday? :)
  53. # [01:31] <Johnny-> html5 is often used (incorrectly) as a buzz-word that encompassed css3, but that's silly
  54. # [01:32] <Johnny-> galant, that's the nightly (most up to date) spec
  55. # [01:32] <Johnny-> that's why it says July 27
  56. # [01:32] <galant> ah ye
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  58. # [01:32] <galant> is there web dev edition of html spec on w3c? like whatwg has?
  59. # [01:33] <nicoman> thanks Johnny-
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  61. # [01:34] <Johnny-> galant, they have a wiki style area http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML
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  63. # [01:34] <Johnny-> but the spec is really the way to go
  64. # [01:35] <galant> I find spec to be for browser makers :)
  65. # [01:36] <galant> hm I made copy of my webpage and put in another fodler php - css - js file and all images and now the canvas is not drawing like it should.. any idea why is this happening? :S
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  68. # [01:37] <Johnny-> the spec is not intended for beginner learning, but it is not only for browser makers
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  70. # [01:41] <galant> yes
  71. # [01:41] <galant> I don't understand the spec
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  73. # [01:41] <galant> what this means I always see this - void someVar .....
  74. # [01:41] <galant> in which language - technology is html language made?
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  103. # [02:45] <galant> does browsers read any other language other than html?
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  119. # [03:24] <TheDracle> So, I'm experimenting with the HTML5 Audio API, and I'm having trouble with controlling buffering behavior.
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  122. # [03:25] <TheDracle> I'm streaming audio from an icestream source using the Audio javascript object, and checking stream.buffered.end(0) - stream.currentTime, it seems to have an affinity to buffer ~10 seconds of audio.
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  124. # [03:25] <TheDracle> So, the stream that is playing is ten seconds offset from real time.
  125. # [03:25] <TheDracle> I want to make this buffer as little as possible.
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  132. # [03:32] <moo-_-> TheDracle: if you want to control over buffer use web audio API, not <audio> element
  133. # [03:34] <TheDracle> Yes, I'm using new Audio
  134. # [03:34] <TheDracle> From javascript.
  135. # [03:34] <TheDracle> Or, you mean, use the raw PCM playback stuff?
  136. # [03:34] <TheDracle> So, the issue there is, it seems almost impossible to coordinate the decode.
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  138. # [03:34] <TheDracle> And the playback.
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  140. # [03:36] <TheDracle> It's a pretty annoying behavior it tries to stay ten seconds ahead, and you can't just set the prebuffer to be lower.
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  147. # [03:56] <moo-_-> TheDracle: google web audio api
  148. # [03:58] <TheDracle> http://caniuse.com/audio-api
  149. # [03:58] <TheDracle> Doesn't look too likely of a solution.
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  240. # [09:02] <trollboy> do any browsers support gamepads well? From what I'm seeing Chrome only does xbox controllers on windows..
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  252. # [09:21] <patsToms> trollboy, seems like you need to check GamepadAPI support
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  254. # [09:24] <patsToms> trollboy, check this - http://www.gamepadjs.com/ , seems like there is all support you can get now
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  267. # [09:57] <boof> can you load html5 through an iframe?
  268. # [09:58] <boof> just like you would javascript?
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  272. # [10:12] <patsToms> boof, iframes just embeds another web page in element
  273. # [10:12] <patsToms> boof, if you have page with something, you can embed it on other page using iframe
  274. # [10:13] <boof> patsToms so you know how the youtube sends over a javascript player
  275. # [10:13] <boof> in the same sense, can I send over a light webpage?
  276. # [10:14] <llamapixel> iframe is like a GOTO statement ;P
  277. # [10:14] <llamapixel> it has pros and cons ;)
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  280. # [10:15] <patsToms> boof, just try to run youtube emmbed code url in your browser
  281. # [10:15] <llamapixel> he left
  282. # [10:16] <patsToms> oh, thanks about info haha
  283. # [10:16] <llamapixel> np :)
  284. # [10:16] <patsToms> I have disabled leave/join messages
  285. # [10:16] <llamapixel> all good ;)
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  293. # [10:27] <boof> what are the cons?
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  297. # [10:51] <llamapixel> slower to load elements, injections when you were not expecting them, libraries fail etc etc
  298. # [10:59] <gallant> which kind of element are form input elements?
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  300. # [11:04] <patsToms> gallant, you are asking this many times? haha
  301. # [11:04] <patsToms> got dejavu
  302. # [11:05] <patsToms> why question like this? really can't understand, maybe check http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.3
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  308. # [11:18] <gallant> patsToms, sorry I know I didn't saw yesterday :S
  309. # [11:18] <gallant> patsToms, because I can't find which type of display it has
  310. # [11:19] <gallant> :)
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  312. # [11:22] <patsToms> input is inline-block
  313. # [11:22] <patsToms> gallant, ^^
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  318. # [11:29] <boof> llamapixel, what is a better solution?
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  320. # [11:29] <boof> I want to have my HTML5 interact with my API, but I want that HTML5 to be succintly implemented with my client's page
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  322. # [11:29] <llamapixel> some things are better with scrollable divs, however its too broad a question for all solutions
  323. # [11:29] <boof> can the scrollable div also come from a different source?
  324. # [11:30] <boof> and be resized etc
  325. # [11:30] <llamapixel> not that I know of so far.
  326. # [11:31] <llamapixel> resized should be ok
  327. # [11:32] <boof> okay
  328. # [11:33] <boof> so basically ifram is the only way I can get content to load from a different source than the client?
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  330. # [11:35] <boof> right? or is there another method
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  342. # [12:10] <gallant> what is the keywords attribute max value? or how many keywords I can put in <meta name="keywords"
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  363. # [13:47] <ThePieMan> hello can i get a little help here please?
  364. # [13:48] <ThePieMan> anybody to help please?
  365. # [13:49] <ThePieMan> hello anyone reply please
  366. # [13:49] <ThePieMan> hello
  367. # [13:50] <ThePieMan> anybody here?
  368. # [13:50] <ThePieMan> ?
  369. # [13:50] <ThePieMan> ok i may sound like real noob, but how to make website like this one? http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/ can u suggest me something?
  370. # [13:50] <ThePieMan> ?
  371. # [13:51] <ThePieMan> can anybode help me?
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  375. # [13:52] <ThePieMan> can u guys help me please?
  376. # [13:53] <ThePieMan> hello?
  377. # [13:53] <ThePieMan> please reply
  378. # [13:54] <ThePieMan> anybody here?
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  404. # [14:53] <patsToms> haha
  405. # [14:54] <patsToms> oh, he left
  406. # [14:54] <dahlfors_> my previous irc experience tells me those guys are better left unanswered :)
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  667. # [22:54] <Deviad> Hello
  668. # [22:54] <Deviad> I am using boilerplate to create my layout and I am running in a problem with <hr />, basically it does not show up... :|
  669. # [22:54] <Deviad> I cannot see it...
  670. # [22:55] <dahlfors_> use inspector and inspects its style
  671. # [22:55] <Deviad> I am using firebug
  672. # [22:57] <scottkellum> Deviad: firebug is fine. are you adding any styles to your <hr> to make it visible?
  673. # [22:57] <Deviad> yes
  674. # [22:58] <scottkellum> like...? most default browser styles use borders.
  675. # [22:59] <Deviad> I am trying to implement the style number 4 from here: http://css-tricks.com/examples/hrs/
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  679. # [23:03] <Deviad> Boiler plate comes with some workarounds for some issues in different browsers...
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  681. # [23:03] <Deviad> I will disable them all
  682. # [23:04] <Deviad> 2 mins break 4 cigarette. I need it...
  683. # [23:04] <scottkellum> Deviad: I would start with somthing simple. these styles aren’t showing up for me in chrome either.
  684. # [23:04] <scottkellum> needs prefixes and doesn’t fail gracefully.
  685. # [23:04] <Deviad> In the worst circumstance, I will use a bg image...
  686. # [23:05] <Deviad> I made it already in illustrator...
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  688. # [23:09] <Deviad> http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6991/7o4n.png
  689. # [23:09] <Deviad> This is how it should look like in the end...
  690. # [23:09] <Deviad> I hope... :D
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  692. # [23:10] <Deviad> It is only a draft but more or less that's it...
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  694. # [23:11] <Deviad> After this boring part finally I will be handling with wordpress. :P
  695. # [23:11] <Deviad> dealing with*
  696. # [23:16] <scottkellum> Deviad: http://codepen.io/scottkellum/pen/1760bfbc5718e0f1616f6e861db36644
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  706. # [23:37] <Deviad> scottkellum, still not working here. :(
  707. # [23:37] <scottkellum> :(
  708. # [23:37] <Deviad> I tried removing hr boilerplate defaults
  709. # [23:37] <Deviad> but nothing
  710. # [23:37] <Deviad> http://cdpn.io/uIkeC
  711. # [23:38] <Deviad> in codepen your exemple works
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  714. # [23:42] <scottkellum> looks like you haven’t added the background gradient to it
  715. # [23:42] <scottkellum> note I added SCSS + Compass
  716. # [23:42] <scottkellum> because of vendor prefixes
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  728. # [23:51] <Deviad> scottkellum, thank you very much, it works now.
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  730. # [23:51] <Deviad> I wanted to thank you. :(
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