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  84. # [02:06] <t5mptur3> hi guys, maybe its an offtopic question, but can someone recommend me some good book abt project leader / project manager? i want to start a small company that code using JS/html5 but dont know how to manage the ppl / projects :)
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  191. # [05:47] <boof> how would the embedding work?
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  276. # [08:27] <jair> Hello guys, I am thinking on starting a very clean fresh page, that will serve as interface for a form where we will keep some records and also be able to later query them. I am thinking on using HTML5 and to have the interface nice and neat CSS3
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  319. # [09:20] <jair> the internet I am looking to create will be similar to this: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/ the graphics menu that shows up when changing the device to a tablet or mobile
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  367. # [10:25] <llamapixel> lies! its 6.30 over here pm style!
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  615. # [16:51] <Deviad> Hello
  616. # [16:52] <Deviad> Can anyone please suggest me a responsive framework to use that does not need ruby?
  617. # [16:52] <jaredwilli> foundation?
  618. # [16:52] <jaredwilli> idk if that's ruby or not tho
  619. # [16:53] <jaredwilli> yup it is my b
  620. # [16:53] <Deviad> I know many people use gumby, but not every client probably is going to pay a plus for that
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  623. # [16:54] <Deviad> Are frameworks like gumby supposed to work only on VPS?
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  625. # [16:54] <jaredwilli> i'd just use bootstrap
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  668. # [17:42] <Deviad> jaredwilli, thank you, I am studying bootstrap. :_
  669. # [17:42] <Deviad> :)
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  671. # [17:44] <DoniRS> Daviad I fail to see how ruby should be tied in with ruby.
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  674. # [17:45] <DoniRS> One is a scripting language that has to do with backend and when you speak about responsive it a frontend spec.
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  686. # [18:00] <sunblind> im in need of some assistance since im a total novice when it comes to coding websites
  687. # [18:00] <sunblind> im trying to make a simple personal webpage and i cant figure out how to add text to the body underneath the headlines
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  689. # [18:00] <sunblind> http://pastebin.com/nPVqdKst
  690. # [18:01] <sunblind> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohhPyKLMC94 ive been following this parallax jquery tut
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  704. # [18:14] <jaredwilli> your welcome Deviad
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  729. # [18:38] <Scall> Hello, I would like to add a box for searching for images in my browser start page, but with the following code, if I write something in the box and press enter, I don't see the images directly (I'm not in the image section of the search engine) and don't understand why. Could you give me a hand?
  730. # [18:38] <Scall> <form method="get" target="_blank" action="https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=pics&q=">
  731. # [18:38] <Scall> <input name="q" type="text" maxlength="80" size="40" value="">
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  837. # [21:04] <norbert_> paul_irish: hi, are you there?
  838. # [21:05] <norbert_> paul_irish: I was wondering about the license of Modernizr; in the .js file it says "MIT & BSD" and at http://modernizr.com/license/ it says MIT
  839. # [21:05] <norbert_> where does BSD come in?
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  842. # [21:05] <norbert_> is it a dual license, and BSD is just not mentioned at modernizr.com?
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  845. # [21:06] <norbert_> I want to include the .js file in a package, and for every file I want to add an accurate LICENSE file
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  847. # [21:07] <norbert_> so I would like to know if I should mention it's dual licensed or just include the MIT license
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  849. # [21:07] <norbert_> ryanseddon: see ^
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  858. # [21:14] <SlexAxton> norbert_: it's which ever one you want
  859. # [21:14] <SlexAxton> dual license just implies that you can choose
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  861. # [21:14] <SlexAxton> some companies require one or the other
  862. # [21:14] <SlexAxton> so we just did both
  863. # [21:14] <norbert_> SlexAxton: but http://modernizr.com/license/ mentions just the "MIT License"
  864. # [21:14] <norbert_> I'm wondering why
  865. # [21:14] <SlexAxton> oversight only
  866. # [21:14] <norbert_> it has the whole text of the MIT license there, I don't see the BSD license...
  867. # [21:15] <SlexAxton> it was originally MIT
  868. # [21:15] <SlexAxton> and people asked us to add BSD
  869. # [21:15] <SlexAxton> we probably just forgot about /license
  870. # [21:15] <norbert_> an oversight, really? so, you're going to make a note to add BSD then? ;)
  871. # [21:15] <SlexAxton> it's an open source webpage
  872. # [21:15] <SlexAxton> I'm happy to take that pull request
  873. # [21:16] <SlexAxton> https://github.com/Modernizr/modernizr.com
  874. # [21:16] <norbert_> anyway, thanks for your information; it's now clear to me it's both BSD and MIT, I'll make sure the LICENSE file mentions this
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  876. # [21:17] <norbert_> why aren't you SlexAexton by the way? :)
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  878. # [21:18] <norbert_> I guess Aexton doesn't sound as groovy as Axton :)
  879. # [21:18] <SlexAxton> because that is much hard to say
  880. # [21:18] <norbert_> yeah, true
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  882. # [21:21] <norbert_> BSD license is kind of ambiguous, I think
  883. # [21:22] <norbert_> I'm no expert, but I think there is the original, and the 2-, 3- and 4-clause licenses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
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  919. # [21:30] <norbert_> the 3-clause and 2-clause BSD licenses are GPL-compatible according to the FSF and are open source licenses according to the OSI
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  921. # [21:30] <norbert_> the original 4-clause has not been accepted as open source and is not compatible with the GPL
  922. # [21:31] <norbert_> so just stating "BSD" for your multi-licensing is probably way too vague
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  924. # [21:31] <norbert_> appears to be quite a differences between all these BSD licenses
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  928. # [21:32] <norbert_> maybe "BSD", if nothing else is indicated, always refers to the 4-clause version; then the question is, are you sure that's the one you want
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  930. # [21:33] <norbert_> or that people wanted, when you multi-licensed the package after requests
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  943. # [21:43] <norbert_> SlexAxton: since there is no contact information on the Modernizr website (last time I checked), I'm going to ask it here: which BSD license it Modernizr dual-licensed under?
  944. # [21:43] <norbert_> does anyone know? :)
  945. # [21:44] <norbert_> the 3-clause and 2-clause versions are open source (according to OSI) and GPL-compatible (according to the FSF), while the 4-clause is not
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  948. # [21:46] <norbert_> do you have some kind of mailing list maybe, where I can post this question
  949. # [21:46] <norbert_> I don't want to keep spamming #html5
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  951. # [21:47] <norbert_> it's even incorrect here https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/blob/master/LICENSE
  952. # [21:48] <norbert_> and even on the main page at the bottom it says "Copyright © 2009—2013. Modernizr is available under the MIT license."
  953. # [21:48] <norbert_> nothing about the BSD license there
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  955. # [21:48] <norbert_> it's weird that apparently most people don't care
  956. # [21:50] <norbert_> I don't have Twitter or a GitHub account
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  958. # [21:51] <norbert_> the only way to have someone talk back is probably if I tweet you or add an 'issue' on GitHub
  959. # [21:51] <norbert_> back in the day people used e-mail
  960. # [21:51] <norbert_> I still use it a lot
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  962. # [21:54] <norbert_> whatever, I'll create a temp GitHub account and will create an 'issue' about not being able to contact you folks without Twitter or a GitHub account (since IRC clearly has no effect), and I'll also mention the BSD license information that's missing everywhere and that it's not clear which BSD license it is - or if it's the original, that it's not open source and stuff
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  964. # [21:54] <norbert_> later alligator
  965. # [21:54] <b-ot> norbert_: ---,==,'<
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  975. # [22:03] <daleharvey> paul_irish: yo, you around?
  976. # [22:03] <paul_irish> wassup my neeze
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  978. # [22:03] <daleharvey> I got 99 problems and indexeddb is most of them
  979. # [22:04] <paul_irish> :)
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  981. # [22:04] <paul_irish> are you homies with jsbell?
  982. # [22:04] <paul_irish> i thought you were
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  984. # [22:04] <daleharvey> yup, this is content side though I think
  985. # [22:04] <paul_irish> o.
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  987. # [22:04] <paul_irish> go on
  988. # [22:05] <daleharvey> so when people pass me objects to save, I dont want to change them, so I clone them with extend
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  991. # [22:05] <daleharvey> now if they have included some library that modifies the Array or Object prototype, indexeddb throws a fit trying to save it
  992. # [22:05] <daleharvey> http://jsbin.com/acuyor/2/edit
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  1003. # [22:12] <bookit_antonio> i have webRTC questions and the freenode #webrtc channel seems to be dead, can anyone point me in a direction of a channel where i can have my questions answered regarding this?
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  1009. # [22:18] <moo-_-> bookit_antonio: try stackoverflow.com
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  1014. # [22:19] <moo-_-> bookit_antonio: community chat rarely can act as a support service, so I suggest you try different medium if no one can help you with your question
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  1030. # [22:39] <bookit_antonio> moo: thanks for the reply, ill post on stackoverflow
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  1070. # [23:23] <mynameis> omg guys why tet looks like this in opera, is it just me or?
  1071. # [23:25] <crowcave> ?
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