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  41. # [00:41] <Bonbek> Hi everyone
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  43. # [00:41] <Bonbek> how about using devices through browser with HTML5 ?
  44. # [00:42] <Bonbek> I mean devices such as a scanner for example
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  46. # [00:43] <Bonbek> any idea ?
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  51. # [00:50] <Bonbek> Any answer ?
  52. # [00:52] <pkremer> depends on if the scanner has a web browser probably?
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  55. # [00:53] <pkremer> if it has a web browser you should be able to check what it supports, go to like http://html5test.com/ to test what it supports.
  56. # [00:53] <pkremer> that would be my first guess Bonbek
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  58. # [00:56] <pkremer> Didn
  59. # [00:56] <pkremer> didn't see the first part of your question, so just gave my two cents... hopefully it was some help?
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  294. # [08:10] <Flynnn> globbot
  295. # [08:10] <Flynnn> hmm
  296. # [08:10] <Flynnn> Does anyone here know anything about globbot?
  297. # [08:10] <Flynnn> http://logbot.glob.com.au
  298. # [08:10] <Flynnn> (sorry, not really HTML5 related, but globbot is in this channel)
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  333. # [08:47] <boof> is there any function I could use to capture video from a camera on a cell phone natively in a browser?
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  335. # [08:49] <boof> if not, is there any way I could atleast get the phone to switch to the camera application and then have it upload the video automatically?
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  401. # [10:57] <Havvy> If you have a 1px by 1px image, and you make the <img> height and width attribute larger, shouldn't that make the whole image area the same color as the color of the image's pixel?
  402. # [10:57] <moo-_-> Havvy: yes
  403. # [10:57] <moo-_-> Havvy: though image scaling algorithms might do some tricks
  404. # [10:58] <moo-_-> Havvy: generally, don't do anything like that
  405. # [10:58] <moo-_-> or if you are doing it you are probably doing it wrong
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  407. # [10:59] <Havvy> I'm just setting up a test ground, and since the actual end product will use image tags, I'd figured it'd be easier to go with just using the 1px x 1px thing for quick resizing tests.
  408. # [11:00] <Havvy> Oh, wait. What. The pixel lost it's color when I saved it. :/
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  410. # [11:02] <Bonbek> hi
  411. # [11:03] <Bonbek> Any way to interact with a scanner without using a non-free twain SDK ?
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  432. # [11:42] <moo-_-> Bonbek: from JavaScript?
  433. # [11:42] <moo-_-> I sincerely dobut
  434. # [11:42] <moo-_-> doubt
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  437. # [11:45] <Bonbek> i agree but i wish that HTML5 could allow it
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  439. # [11:46] <moo-_-> Bonbek: if you wish to contribute your time to create a specification and push things like that forward there is channel #whatwg for the spec authors
  440. # [11:46] <moo-_-> they can point you forward
  441. # [11:48] <Bonbek> moo-_-: no problem for giving time to write such specification
  442. # [11:49] <moo-_-> Bonbek: there is already getUserMedia() API but that's for thing like cameras
  443. # [11:49] <moo-_-> I don't see why it could not be extented to cover scanners as well
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  445. # [11:50] <Bonbek> indeed
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  450. # [12:01] <Scall> Hello, I would like to add a box for searching for images in my browser start page, but with the following code, if I write something in the box and press enter, I don't see the images directly (I'm not in the image section of the search engine) and don't understand why. Could you give me a hand?
  451. # [12:01] <Scall> <form method="get" target="_blank" action="https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=pics&q=">
  452. # [12:01] <Scall> <input name="q" type="text" maxlength="80" size="40" value="">
  453. # [12:01] <Scall> </form>
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  456. # [12:05] <Scall> Obviously going to "https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=pics&q=example" I can see images directly
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  471. # [12:25] <moo-_-> Scall: I suggest you ask on stackoverflow.com or other generic web development forum, as you might get more replies there
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  473. # [12:25] <moo-_-> this discussion channel mostly discusses HTML5'ish features
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  482. # [12:38] <Scall> moo-_-: oh okay, thank you for the advice
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  493. # [12:58] <norbert_> hi all, what does -ot crew mean?
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  495. # [12:59] <norbert_> paul_irish: what does -ot crew mean?
  496. # [12:59] <norbert_> ajpiano: what does -ot crew mean?
  497. # [12:59] <paul_irish> norbert_: chillllllllll
  498. # [13:00] <paul_irish> it's just a group of friends
  499. # [13:00] <norbert_> I am very chillaxed :)
  500. # [13:00] <paul_irish> cool me too :)
  501. # [13:00] <norbert_> ok, because your Wikipedia page is using that website as a reference, and I don't think that's reliable
  502. # [13:00] <norbert_> or, at least, I'm having my doubts
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  504. # [13:04] <norbert_> anyways, what does -ot crew mean?
  505. # [13:06] <norbert_> is it similar to Alan Cox's -ac branch?
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  509. # [13:11] <norbert_> there goes your b ot- t
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  628. # [15:56] <mynameis> why I can't register click event on iframe?
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  631. # [15:57] <moo-_-> mynameis: because events happening inside iframe go to the underlying document
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  634. # [15:59] <mynameis> ok moo-_- can I do this? when I click some element I change width of the iframe?
  635. # [15:59] <mynameis> and can I click button in the iframe with javscript?
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  638. # [16:02] <moo-_-> mynameis: <iframe> must communicate the event back to the parent page JavaScript using postMessage() API
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  641. # [16:04] <mynameis> moo-_-, thanks
  642. # [16:05] <moo-_-> mynameis: check postMessage() on developer.mozilla.org
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  644. # [16:05] <mynameis> yeah I am right now :)
  645. # [16:05] <mynameis> thanks moo-_-
  646. # [16:06] <moo-_-> mynameis: np
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  742. # [17:50] <pandeiro> i'm looking at foundation and bootstrap and css grid frameworks in general -- anyone have any strong opinions?
  743. # [17:52] <graphettion> pandeiro: see #css
  744. # [17:52] <scottkel_> pandeiro: yes
  745. # [17:53] <scottkel_> I really like working with smaller modules and components instead of bigger frameworks
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  748. # [17:53] <graphettion> CSS frameworks are typically used for prototypes - not production sites.
  749. # [17:53] <gho5t> bootstrap is fine for a grid framework
  750. # [17:53] <gho5t> I've only used their fluid one
  751. # [17:53] <scottkel_> pandeiro: Compass has a log of plugins where you can select grid systems widgets and other smaller components: https://github.com/chriseppstein/compass/wiki/Compass-Plugins
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  753. # [17:56] <pandeiro> scottkel_: i am also more of a lib/module guy, thanks for the compass suggestion; graphettion: gho5t: thanks
  754. # [17:57] <pandeiro> i am planning on handcrafting the html to my personal site, but i like the flexible mobile/desktop design of bootstrap and foundation; that's why i mentioned them
  755. # [17:57] <graphettion> I just use what is needed without bloatware. I use this - http://gridulator.com/
  756. # [17:57] <graphettion> All you do is set width to divs.
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  758. # [17:58] <pandeiro> graphettion: excellent, i will check that out
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  760. # [17:58] <scottkel_> I’m partial to Singularity, but thats because I built it ;) https://github.com/Team-Sass/Singularity
  761. # [18:00] <pandeiro> scottkel_: thanks i will have a look
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  768. # [18:03] * graphettion doesn't see why people need frameworks to create simple grid systems
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  773. # [18:11] <gho5t> +1
  774. # [18:11] <gho5t> me either
  775. # [18:11] <gho5t> I really only use bootstrap for fluid grids
  776. # [18:11] <gho5t> since most devs are familiar with it
  777. # [18:11] <gho5t> any other css grid system is overkill imo
  778. # [18:11] <gho5t> learn to css
  779. # [18:12] <Dorfrod> i'm still on 960 for layouts and then i edit it to my own uses
  780. # [18:13] <pandeiro> there's a bit of boilerplate involved in the flexible media-query based grid designs that i would prefer to avoid i guess
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  782. # [18:13] <pandeiro> i am reading through foundation, bootstrap and singularity now to see how they work
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  784. # [18:14] <pandeiro> but one thing i do feel the need to rant against is bower -- don't see the point of that at all, really
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  787. # [18:15] <gho5t> afaik bootstrap doesn't do anything with media queries
  788. # [18:15] <gho5t> it simply uses a % based grid system
  789. # [18:15] <gho5t> nothing too complicated
  790. # [18:15] <gho5t> you add your own media queries when neede
  791. # [18:15] <gho5t> d
  792. # [18:16] <gho5t> and bower is pretty cool
  793. # [18:16] <pandeiro> gho5t: ah ok. i thought the nav menu collapsing must be based on that somehow
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  795. # [18:16] <pandeiro> gho5t: wget, npm, git clone aren't exactly pain points for me i guess
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  798. # [18:17] <pandeiro> i did `bower install bootstrap` and it went and did git clone of the bs repo, fetched jquery and stuck it in an additional nested directory i really didn't need
  799. # [18:17] <pandeiro> not sure what that did for me
  800. # [18:18] <gho5t> I don't have too much experience with it to be honest
  801. # [18:18] <gho5t> my understanding is you can add a front-end library as a dependency in your bower config file
  802. # [18:18] <gho5t> and just include the config file in your repo
  803. # [18:19] <gho5t> and do git ignore on the actual libraries
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  805. # [18:19] <gho5t> and your team can pull down your bower config and install all of the dependencies doing bower install
  806. # [18:19] <gho5t> which will guarantee the latest version
  807. # [18:19] <gho5t> and not having to host the libs
  808. # [18:19] <gho5t> also being able to do bower update jquery etc is handy
  809. # [18:20] <gho5t> can you do that type of workflow with npm, git clone, or wget?
  810. # [18:20] <pandeiro> gho5t: you can, but i guess you would need to know bash
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  812. # [18:20] <pandeiro> but that's cool, i see the automation potential
  813. # [18:20] <pandeiro> if it works 100% of the time
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  837. # [18:32] <modles> hello
  838. # [18:32] <modles> does anyone here have an opinion on what the best payment gateway service is?
  839. # [18:33] <modles> anyone used barclays epdq before?
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  848. # [18:39] <Jabberwock> modles: Multinational?
  849. # [18:40] <gho5t> all I can say is I've used Authorize.Net on multiple apps over the years and it just works
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  851. # [18:41] <Jabberwock> That's mostly what I have used as well.
  852. # [18:41] <Jabberwock> http://payment-gateway-services-review.toptenreviews.com/
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  1057. # [23:24] <Guest48100> Could anyone help me? I've been wondering this for years and following online guide to fix this but still can't figure out how to properly save those damn images so they look right out of photoshop. This kind of crap: http://cl.ly/image/3b1o0d1o1l2u Could anyone help me please? I know it's not totally related to the channel but I'm looking for help as best as I can. Thanks!
  1058. # [23:31] <mynameis> why I can't select element in iframe? I have this code http://pastie.org/8191347
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