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  468. # [13:38] <bePolite> are font icons good web design pracice
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  471. # [13:39] <patsToms> bePolite, font icons is more responsive if we compare them to images
  472. # [13:39] <bePolite> patsToms, But dont they consume more space?
  473. # [13:40] <patsToms> bePolite, check for example http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/
  474. # [13:41] <bePolite> patsToms, That is what i intend to use
  475. # [13:41] <patsToms> it's ~45kb
  476. # [13:41] <patsToms> for all icon set
  477. # [13:42] <patsToms> and there is set with images http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/assets/img/glyphicons-halflings.png
  478. # [13:42] <bePolite> patsToms, Thats just for the CSS the font is about 419kb
  479. # [13:43] <dahlfors_> no it isn't
  480. # [13:44] <dahlfors_> that is the combined size of different font formats
  481. # [13:44] <dahlfors_> browsers pick one format and use that one
  482. # [13:44] <dahlfors_> different fonts in use by different browsers
  483. # [13:44] <bePolite> dahlfors_, Okey thank you for that
  484. # [13:44] <bePolite> that was rely helpfull
  485. # [13:44] <dahlfors_> .eot, .svg, .ttf, .woff and .otf are all different formats
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  487. # [13:46] <patsToms> seems like bootrstrap 2 is using icons from image
  488. # [13:46] <bePolite> Is it possible to compress a font in .tff format
  489. # [13:46] <dahlfors_> anyway. for scalable versions, you'll save a lot with those. higher res png icons will quickly consume a lot of data
  490. # [13:47] <dahlfors_> can you get away with mostly symbols from a font you will save a lot of bandwidth like that
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  494. # [13:55] <bePolite> dahlfors_, Can you change the color of a foundation font
  495. # [13:55] <bePolite> i searched on google and on the website but nothing helpfull
  496. # [13:57] <dahlfors_> just like you change color on text
  497. # [13:57] <dahlfors_> color: #cccccc;
  498. # [13:58] <bePolite> dahlfors_, Seriously?
  499. # [13:58] <dahlfors_> yes. it's just like any other font
  500. # [13:58] <dahlfors_> just symbols instead of letters
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  502. # [13:59] <dahlfors_> this means you can also add such as text-shadow
  503. # [14:00] <bePolite> thanks
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  505. # [14:01] <bePolite> dahlfors_, Aslo please how do i add symbols like " →" on a web page
  506. # [14:01] <bePolite> where are the symbols gotten from?
  507. # [14:01] <patsToms> bePolite, check ascii symbol list on google
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  509. # [14:02] <dahlfors_> yep. can't see the sign you added here in my irc client. like patsToms says, google for: html ascii character codes
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  511. # [14:04] <dahlfors_> also, might be a good idea to look up how to setup utf-8 all the way, that is: on the server, in php (on normal webhosting, that might already be supported on both server + php), and in html document
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  515. # [14:09] <bePolite> That you guys that was rely helpfull
  516. # [14:09] <patsToms> you are wellcome
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  518. # [14:12] * bePolite getting back to my web project
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  542. # [14:51] <bePolite> Is there any forum i could submit my website to for reviews and commenting?
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  557. # [15:09] <dahlfors_> hmmm
  558. # [15:09] <dahlfors_> I'm scaling some font-sizes and images in a responsive design
  559. # [15:09] <dahlfors_> for it to work properly on android & ios for the background images, I need to double the px value for width and height for the images
  560. # [15:10] <dahlfors_> on a macbook retina however, doubling the width and height values makes the image double the size
  561. # [15:10] <dahlfors_> has anyone stumbled upon this issue and got a good solution for it?
  562. # [15:10] <dahlfors_> media queries or js
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  601. # [16:15] <benbro1> can I distinguish between a desktop screen and a laptop with the dpi of a resolution media query?
  602. # [16:15] <benbro1> will desktop give me 96dpi while a tablet 120dpi?
  603. # [16:16] <dahlfors_> google device-pixel-ratio
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  605. # [16:16] <dahlfors_> the resolution query isn't much supported yet
  606. # [16:17] <benbro1> dahlfors_: I see it in chrome and IE 10
  607. # [16:17] <benbro1> where isn't it supported?
  608. # [16:17] <benbro1> testing here http://pieroxy.net/blog/pages/css-media-queries/test-features.html
  609. # [16:17] <dahlfors_> I'm fiddling with a responsive layout as well at the moment, and the part that is giving me headaches is macbook pro retina - which picks up the mobile queries
  610. # [16:18] <scottkellum> Not supported on most versions of Android and iOS, not sure about iOS 7.
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  612. # [16:18] <benbro1> scottkellum: maybe for android and ios I can use devicePixelRatio and for windows the resolution media query?
  613. # [16:19] <scottkellum> benbro1: yes, you should use both.
  614. # [16:19] <scottkellum> in general it is bad practice to target devices with media queries
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  616. # [16:19] <benbro1> is it safe to assume that 96dpi is desktop/laptop and >96dpi is a tablet or mobile with retina display?>
  617. # [16:19] <scottkellum> Not really
  618. # [16:20] <benbro1> scottkellum: I need to have a different layout for desktop and tablet
  619. # [16:20] <benbro1> android and ios scale automatically but windows doesn't
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  621. # [16:20] <benbro1> I need to present a doc in 800px on desktop but on tablets I want it to take the whole screen width
  622. # [16:21] <scottkellum> Why do you need a different lyaout on these devices? Are you targeting touch events? Is it a screen width issue?
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  626. # [16:22] <benbro1> scottkellum: on a desktop, word shows docs with 800px width
  627. # [16:22] <benbro1> it will look wierd if the doc will take 1920px
  628. # [16:23] <benbro1> on a tablet with 1920px, 800px is too small
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  631. # [16:23] <benbro1> so on desktop I want 800px and on tablet 1920px
  632. # [16:23] <scottkellum> You should probably use a max-width media query
  633. # [16:24] <benbro1> scottkellum: the desktop and tablet will both have the same width
  634. # [16:24] <benbro1> 1920px
  635. # [16:24] <benbro1> but different physical size. that's why I thought of using the resolution media query
  636. # [16:24] <benbro1> devicepixelratio is probably better but not supported on IE
  637. # [16:24] <scottkellum> what tablet queries at 1920px?
  638. # [16:24] <benbro1> samsung ativ pro
  639. # [16:25] <benbro1> a windows 8 tablet
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  641. # [16:25] <scottkellum> holy crap, really?
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  644. # [16:29] <benbro1> http://www.samsung.com/us/business/computing/tablet-pcs/XE700T1C-A03US
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  648. # [16:34] <scottkellum> benbro1: have you tested this?
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  650. # [16:35] <benbro1> scottkellum: tested what?
  651. # [16:35] <scottkellum> the Samsung ativ pro?
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  654. # [16:35] <scottkellum> Seems like it should query 960px wide
  655. # [16:36] <scottkellum> If it doesn’t, then Samsung+windows are doing something horribly wrong.
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  946. # [23:14] <nixee> hello. are html5 canvas questions answered in this channel?
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  948. # [23:15] <David_Bradbury> Sure, what's the question?
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  952. # [23:19] <nixee> David_Bradbury: I am wanting to draw an image on the canvas so as to serve as the background
  953. # [23:20] <nixee> David_Bradbury: in other words cover the canvas completely, but right now i have the image not covering the canvas completely
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  959. # [23:25] <nixee> David_Bradbury: here is my situation. I want that picture to cover the canvas completely: http://db.tt/hsSLcx73
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  971. # [23:46] <nixee> any suggestions for my situation are greatly appreciated
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  974. # [23:47] <Aldo_> Sul
  975. # [23:47] <Aldo_> Sup
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