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  16. # [00:14] <dev11> why when embeding video from youtube I see small black border below the video inside the iframe?
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  24. # [00:18] <Overv> maybe offtopic, but which server framework handles many websocket connections efficiently?
  25. # [00:19] <Moo-_-> Overv: for python twisted, tornado, gevent
  26. # [00:19] <Overv> Moo-_-: cool, thanks
  27. # [00:19] <Moo-_-> Overv: nodejs for javascript
  28. # [00:19] <Moo-_-> Overv: for php you can just cry
  29. # [00:19] <Overv> if language doesn't matter, nodejs or tornado/twisted/gevent?
  30. # [00:19] <Moo-_-> yeah
  31. # [00:20] <Overv> not much difference? :p
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  33. # [00:21] <Moo-_-> in performance-wise they all based on the same asyncrhonous programming principles
  34. # [00:21] <Overv> what happens when one of the connections is slow? will it drop messages or keep queueing them?
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  38. # [00:22] <Moo-_-> Overv: I think you can handle that on the application level
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  40. # [00:22] <Moo-_-> TCP/IP never drops packets
  41. # [00:22] <Moo-_-> so your server-side application can throttle what messages to send and when
  42. # [00:22] <Moo-_-> "drops" as all packets arrive to the destination in the order sent
  43. # [00:24] <Overv> will websockets at any point support a UDP like model, e.g. for online games?
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  616. # [14:41] <root66> http://beta.symphony3d.com:8080/audioinput.html <-- something fun I made this morning (chrome/webkit and mic required)
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  632. # [15:10] <horse> hi all. how would a reference a pop up (modal) from a button on another page?
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  634. # [15:10] <horse> for example, i have a button that when pressed, pops up a modal, ie:
  635. # [15:10] <horse> <a href="create_modal3.php#windowTitleDialog" class="btn btn-success">Create</a>
  636. # [15:11] <horse> is this even possible?
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  640. # [15:14] <Moo-_-> horse: so you want to make a pop-up open when you arrive from a specia link?
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  653. # [15:22] <horse> Moo-_- i just want a modal pop up from a button press, but i want to split the code for the modal to another page
  654. # [15:23] <horse> so when the button is pressed, i want this modal to pop up as if it's all part of the same page
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  657. # [15:23] <horse> if that makes sense
  658. # [15:23] <Moo-_-> horse: do that by using template includes of your server-side programming framework
  659. # [15:23] <horse> can i not just call it like this: <a href="create_modal3.php#windowTitleDialog" class="btn btn-success">Create</a>
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  663. # [15:24] <horse> where create_modal3 is my separate page?
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  940. # [19:53] <rtc> every web page should have one h1 element?
  941. # [19:54] <rtc> that says html5 specification?
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  943. # [19:54] <Eightamrock> You should only have 1 H1
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  945. # [19:55] <Eightamrock> it should also be as close to the top of the page as possible
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  947. # [19:55] <Eightamrock> not css, but element position in the code
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  950. # [19:57] <rtc> why in html5 specification there are examples where each seection has own h1 element?
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  952. # [19:58] <rtc> Eightamrock, ^
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  957. # [20:01] <Eightamrock> This is a little bit of a debated topic
  958. # [20:01] <Eightamrock> Best practice is currently 1 H!
  959. # [20:02] <Eightamrock> HTML5 has been designed to have interchangeable entites
  960. # [20:02] <rtc> um?
  961. # [20:02] <Eightamrock> so you have many sections with headers and footer,
  962. # [20:03] <Eightamrock> can havle articles with sections
  963. # [20:03] <Eightamrock> sections with articles
  964. # [20:03] <Eightamrock> article can wrap links to other articles
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  967. # [20:04] <Eightamrock> THe idea in the spec is to make it loose and interchangeable, meaning many sections with their own headings
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  969. # [20:04] <Eightamrock> but right now, best practice from an SEO perspective is 1 h1 per page, though matt cutts says they dont care too much. There is nothing concrete
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  1152. # [23:32] <zkv> Hello
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  1154. # [23:34] <zkv> Can anyone explain why does we have section and article ? What is the difference between section and div? What is the difference between section and article? When should div, section, article be used?
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  1157. # [23:35] <Moo-_-> zkv: this is a question of sematics
  1158. # [23:36] <zkv> Moo-_-, as far as i understood article should be used where we have separate piece of the information that should be reused somewhere else. So it can be get out from the context and still will have sence.
  1159. # [23:37] <zkv> Moo-_-, but what about section and div.. I do not really understand that difference
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  1177. # [23:45] <Moo-_-> zkv: I don't believe anybody can give a definite answer
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  1182. # [23:51] <zkv> Moo-_-, sorry, network was disconnected. Have i missed some comments to my questions?
  1183. # [23:51] <Moo-_-> same where
  1184. # [23:51] <Moo-_-> here
  1185. # [23:52] <Moo-_-> zkv: <div> is mostly for stylistic elements and other elements do not make sense
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  1188. # [23:53] <Moo-_-> zkv: here http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2011/11/18/html5-semantics/
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  1196. # [23:59] <zkv> Moo-_-, thanks for the link. going to read about it
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