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  1. # Session Start: Tue Oct 15 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
  3. # [00:00] <danfromuk> Hi, if I want to make an animation on the front page of my site, what package would you recommend? Flash and export as HTML5, or Adobe Edge Animate? Or is there something better?
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  9. # [00:11] <patsToms> seems like it depends on how advanced your animation will bee
  10. # [00:12] <danfromuk> It will be more like a flash animation
  11. # [00:13] <danfromuk> Ive used flash before. But never touched Edge. But they look pretty similar.
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  64. # [01:43] <new2webdev> i am trying to make a border-left in css longer help please?
  65. # [01:43] <new2webdev> here is the fiddle
  66. # [01:43] <new2webdev> :)
  67. # [01:43] <new2webdev> http://jsfiddle.net/XwaX6/
  68. # [01:43] <new2webdev> help?
  69. # [01:44] <new2webdev> anyone ?
  70. # [01:44] <new2webdev> HELP!
  71. # [01:44] <new2webdev> :'(
  72. # [01:45] <new2webdev> >3:'(]
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  450. # [12:21] <DrProid> Hello everyone. My last experience with HTML was 7 years ago. I have a question but I don't require a full answer, just a point in the right direction. Anyone willing to help?
  451. # [12:21] <Xymon> Ask away.
  452. # [12:22] <DrProid> I'll explain through example of what I want to achieve.
  453. # [12:22] <Xymon> Alright.
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  456. # [12:24] <DrProid> I want to make a website that has picture of an arrow pointing down, nothing else. Then the user will scroll down endlessly, passing the same image every so often.
  457. # [12:24] <DrProid> Is HTML5 capable of endless scrolling?
  458. # [12:25] <DrProid> And how does this look on the slider to the right of the page?
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  460. # [12:25] <Xymon> Endless? Theoretically.
  461. # [12:25] <Xymon> You can create a script (javascript) that when the user scrolls down, the page is extended down.
  462. # [12:25] <DrProid> not truely endless, more repetitive
  463. # [12:26] <Xymon> Well, yeah.
  464. # [12:26] <DrProid> ok so i'll look into js for that
  465. # [12:26] <Xymon> Endlessly is... really impossible lol.
  466. # [12:26] <Xymon> In any case.
  467. # [12:26] <Xymon> More of a physics thing.
  468. # [12:26] <Xymon> But yeah, you could just keep adding to the page automatically, or on event ( i'd go with on event )
  469. # [12:27] <DrProid> on event (reaching the end of the page) -> repeat page below
  470. # [12:27] <DrProid> or should i just call the image again
  471. # [12:27] <Xymon> yeah.
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  474. # [12:28] <Xymon> Either way would work, really. Depends on if you expect them to scroll back up and realize it isn't there anymore.
  475. # [12:29] <Xymon> If you don't want them being like "oh, it's gone now" then just re-append the image. If that doesn't matter, just add more say.. <br> tags before the image, so that they'll scroll down and see the same image again.
  476. # [12:29] <DrProid> cool, thanks for your help. I'll do some js research into events and i'm sure ill get my answers.
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  478. # [12:30] <DrProid> and a little experimentation.
  479. # [12:30] <patsToms> seems like you can do all, it´s all about how much you will code haha
  480. # [12:30] <Xymon> Alright, what you're looking for is element.onscroll, element.scrollHeight, and element.scrollTop
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  482. # [12:30] <DrProid> awesome!
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  485. # [12:33] <DrProid> Thanks Xymon
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  626. # [15:34] <martisj> when making a heading with a link should it be <a><h2>heading that links yo</h2></a> or <h2><a>aoiwfja</a></h2> ?
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  629. # [15:37] <bouble> <h2><a>aoiwfja</a></h2>
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  632. # [15:42] <dahlfors1> afaik in html5 both are ok. in xhtml, only the second one is correct
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  654. # [15:58] <Xymon> dahlfors1: if you don't use xhtml you're a douche.
  655. # [15:58] <Xymon> Let's be honest.
  656. # [15:58] <Xymon> Sounds harsh, sure. But come on...
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  670. # [16:04] <moo-_-> Xymon: you might be on wrong channel :)
  671. # [16:04] <Xymon> I'm not on the wrong channel.
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  673. # [16:06] <Xymon> xhtml is more a format. Carries with html5 just the same. There's no excuse (morally) for <a><h5></h5></a>. Look, i see your point. But seriously....
  674. # [16:06] <moo-_-> Xymon: I see your point
  675. # [16:06] <moo-_-> but generally, you should write HTML5 html5'ish way
  676. # [16:06] <moo-_-> and e.g. not use self-enclosing tags which are mandated by XHTML
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  678. # [16:07] <moo-_-> Xymon: it's quite complex situation what we have with HTML markup evolution
  679. # [16:07] <moo-_-> so it will be mess in any case whatever one does
  680. # [16:07] <Xymon> What i'm saying, is you'll never be bitched at for <h5><a></a></h5>, where as you'll sometimes be bitched at for the opposition.
  681. # [16:08] <Xymon> Plus, modern browsers will correct it, why make them do that? Let's not be jackasses.
  682. # [16:08] <Xymon> Speaking of which, what the rules on language in here?
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  775. # [17:49] <farn> html5 is preferred
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  777. # [17:49] <farn> oh, it's been a while since he asked that
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  779. # [17:50] <moo-_-> Xymon: there are no rules as there is no control
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  781. # [17:50] <Xymon> Ah, alright.
  782. # [17:51] <Xymon> farn, assuming you're responding to me, i was referring to offensive language ( cursing )
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  784. # [17:51] <farn> Xymon: yeah, just a stupid joke
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  786. # [17:52] <Xymon> ahhh if i knew you were joking i would of laughed, twas a clever one. 2 clever 4 me.
  787. # [17:53] <farn> it might have worked if it hadn't been two hours late
  788. # [17:53] <Xymon> My humor recognition is down as a script construction process is pulling all of my cpu.
  789. # [17:53] <Xymon> I'm having alot of trouble getting this script working! D:
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  902. # [20:10] <Obsur3> Is anyone actually here?
  903. # [20:10] <dahlfors1> no
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  913. # [20:20] <visualshock> Can I host a webserver when I have no modem? (fiber)
  914. # [20:21] <patsToms> visualshock, host? you mean host for internet? haha
  915. # [20:22] <visualshock> yes
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  917. # [20:22] <visualshock> I just have a plug in the wall, no modem
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  919. # [20:26] <patsToms> visualshock, hard to say, you need to check it
  920. # [20:27] <patsToms> visualshock, what OS you have?
  921. # [20:28] <visualshock> patsToms, windows and linux, probably will use linux
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  925. # [20:29] <patsToms> so you have router?
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  927. # [20:30] <visualshock> patsToms, yes, but just a cheap wireless dlink one
  928. # [20:30] <patsToms> so, you want to host webpage from your home network?
  929. # [20:31] <patsToms> if you have router probably need to forward 80 port
  930. # [20:31] <visualshock> correct, or maybe a game server for friends
  931. # [20:31] <visualshock> nothing big
  932. # [20:32] <visualshock> just for learning
  933. # [20:33] <patsToms> visualshock, you should try to test it
  934. # [20:33] <patsToms> one of the ways could be for plugging to main network ( not from router )
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  936. # [20:34] <patsToms> and do some ipconfig (from windows cmd) or ifconfig (from linux terminal)
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  938. # [20:34] <patsToms> and check do you have external ip adress
  939. # [20:34] <patsToms> with externall I mean - not local
  940. # [20:34] <patsToms> is so, than you are ready to go
  941. # [20:34] <visualshock> yes I do
  942. # [20:35] <visualshock> ok thanks. But how do I open ports and stuff when I have no modem? I am not used to this fiber no modem thing.
  943. # [20:35] <patsToms> you need to open port in your router
  944. # [20:35] <patsToms> it´s called port forwarding
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  947. # [20:37] <visualshock> okey, but I can connect the server straight to the wall with cable, is that better or do I need the router inbetween?
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  951. # [20:40] <patsToms> if you can, do it
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  953. # [20:40] <patsToms> you have no need for router then
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  1040. # [22:20] <danfromuk> Hi. Is it possible to animate a curved line being drawn between two points using two points using html5?
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  1048. # [22:25] <moo-_-> danfromuk: tricky
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  1050. # [22:25] <moo-_-> danfromuk: you could a transparent canvas where the line is being drawn
  1051. # [22:25] <moo-_-> and then this canvas is overlaid on the elements
  1052. # [22:26] <moo-_-> but not with CSS
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  1067. # [22:41] <mammaries> what is the best type of html form for the following: It should have two buttons. clicking on one of the should submit one value to the server, clicking on the other should submit a different value
  1068. # [22:41] <mammaries> should I radio button form?
  1069. # [22:42] <mammaries> seems like clicking on "radio" buttons doesn't submit anything
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  1075. # [22:52] <graphettion> mammaries: Looks like you answered your own question. Use buttons <button>
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  1090. # [23:02] <mammaries> graphettion: but in the example I see of radio button forms, clicking on the radio button doesn't "submit" anything
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  1092. # [23:02] <mammaries> is there a way to make them do that?
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  1095. # [23:05] <graphettion> mammaries: Never done this before. Only thing I can find is this - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13126501/submit-form-on-radio-button-click-submit-form-and-perform-other-actions-on-rad
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