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43. # [00:35] <HD|Laptop> Hi!
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45. # [00:35] <HD|Laptop> I'm trying to implement applicationcache
46. # [00:36] <HD|Laptop> so far its lookin good, but I have a problem
47. # [00:36] <HD|Laptop> as soon as I go offline (plug the cable), then of course the manifest file cannot be loaded
48. # [00:36] <HD|Laptop> and an error event is fired
49. # [00:36] <HD|Laptop> can I ignore the error event ONLY for the manifest file, so that I can still catch and display other errors?!
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151. # [02:37] <Siecje> how do you stay logged in with html5?
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562. # [11:55] <sticky_> why when i add php to an html5 page, the validation show alot of errors? without php i have an error only, with the php code more than 100
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580. # [12:11] <moo-_-> sticky_: You need to understand how PHP is interpreted and how HTML fille is created. I suggest you consult PHP community regarding the matter.
581. # [12:11] <sticky_> i see the error, i have a php error and tring to fix it
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585. # [12:17] <dahlfors_> 1) when you validate the code, validate it as it is rendered as html. do not include the php source
586. # [12:17] <dahlfors_> 2) make sure you got your character encoding correctly setup all around (usually utf-8 these days)
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588. # [12:18] <dahlfors_> besides that, check *what* the errors are
589. # [12:19] <dahlfors_> validators might output a lot of errors if you miss to close an element or such
590. # [12:19] <sticky_> dahlfors_: i copy the html from firebub, so i dont include php on validation...
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592. # [12:20] <sticky_> the error i see in firebug is that add extra tags of font size tr td and that things
593. # [12:20] <dahlfors_> tags of font size????
594. # [12:20] <sticky_> yes is caused by an error on my php code
595. # [12:20] <dahlfors_> if you mean <font>, that is deprecated and will never pass a html5 validator
596. # [12:21] <sticky_> yes i know
597. # [12:21] <sticky_> this is why the validator throw errors
598. # [12:21] <sticky_> but i dont have created this deprecated tags
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600. # [12:22] <dahlfors_> and if the error is increased with php - either you are looping something out that is repeated, or you got one error that affects everything on the rest of the page - like an open element or you have perhaps an extra </div>
601. # [12:22] <dahlfors_> good luck
602. # [12:22] <dahlfors_> I'm going afk now
603. # [12:23] <sticky_> ok
604. # [12:23] <sticky_> i will see what happens
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608. # [12:25] <moo-_-> sticky_: Firebug does not extra tags. It is your server-side page generation what does it.
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610. # [12:25] <moo-_-> sticky_: you can use command line tools to download raw HTML source from the server-side HTTP end point to verify this
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856. # [17:08] <gulli> Anyone know if I can use golocation to utilize a phones GPS system also?
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870. # [17:21] <mc`> hi
871. # [17:22] <mc`> if I want to stream live video, without flash and have it work on all browsers, including mobile, what are my options, if any?
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874. # [17:24] <dahlfors_> that is tough
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876. # [17:24] <dahlfors_> I work at bambuser.com - a live video streaming service
877. # [17:24] <dahlfors_> I'd recommend using us and our html5 embed ;)
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879. # [17:24] <dahlfors_> but well, the current state is so-so if you want it to work on different browsers and devices
880. # [17:27] <dahlfors_> the best solution is to serve different transcoded versions for different mobile devices and browsers dependent on what they support - and go with flash for the devices that support it
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882. # [17:27] <dahlfors_> which is pretty much what our transcoding servers + html5 embed does
883. # [17:29] <dahlfors_> mc`: http://bambuser.com/api/embed_htmlplayer
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886. # [17:31] <mc`> thank you
887. # [17:31] <mc`> i'll check it out
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891. # [17:35] <emilsedgh> guys, i trying to learn the web audio API and experiment with it. my issue is that my very simple example plays a huge noise
892. # [17:35] <emilsedgh> http://jsfiddle.net/8hJWc/
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894. # [17:36] <emilsedgh> anyone minds running the example with chrome and tell me the result? its supposed to just play whatever you say on the mic
895. # [17:36] <emilsedgh> but for me, mostly noise comes out
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898. # [17:39] <mc`> dahlfors_: I would prefer to use my own server, is that possible?
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903. # [17:40] <emilsedgh> hehe, im in a similiar situation. i would like to stream some live events for the browser as well. my searches guided me to rtmp and wowza server. dahlfors_, i cannot use a foreign server as well (because im in iran and my services need to be fast)
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905. # [17:41] <emilsedgh> i would love to get some clues about the way you stream to the browser as well
906. # [17:41] <orion66> hey guys, how can I cache a json file in appcache and access to it in my js?
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924. # [18:02] <dahlfors_> mc`: not in our infrastructure. for major corporate deals it might be possible to arrange, but not for normally sized companies or personal users. a big part of our magic happens inside the server infrastructure
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927. # [18:03] <orion66> hey guys, how can I cache a json file in appcache and access to it in my js?
928. # [18:03] <dahlfors_> mc`: basically we cover everything from video input through many types of devices, and output through player or api, depending on customer
929. # [18:04] <dahlfors_> mc`: the transcoding servers are our own as well
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931. # [18:09] <dahlfors_> mc`: live transcoding to multiple formats is not easy. unless you have lots of time or a large development team and need to deliver to different formats than flash, I really recommend using a service for it
932. # [18:09] <mc`> so you work that this company?
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936. # [18:09] <dahlfors_> yes
937. # [18:10] <mc`> ok, thats helpful
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1092. # [20:42] <glaksmono> how is websocket generally designed if we want to broadcast only to a specific user?
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