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  81. # [02:19] <unonullus_> Hi, some body can help me with this code: http://pastebin.com/j23VCD2s?
  82. # [02:19] <unonullus_> I'm novice, and I don't understand why unordered list (<ul>) is following property about alignment with last line of <h3> tag.
  83. # [02:20] <unonullus_> *somebody
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  86. # [02:22] <bouncerino> yo
  87. # [02:22] <bouncerino> who wants to tear into my site
  88. # [02:23] <bouncerino> and give a critique
  89. # [02:23] <bouncerino> http://www.bikeon.co.za
  90. # [02:23] <bouncerino> launching tomorrow
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  267. # [06:54] <bray90820> Can anyone here help me with an HTML/CSS question
  268. # [06:54] <bray90820> http://jsfiddle.net/VfNzp/
  269. # [06:54] <bray90820> As of right now the desktop version shows on mobile but the mobile version does not show on desktop
  270. # [06:54] <bray90820> What i want is the desktop version to show on mobile and the mobile version to show on desktop
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  280. # [07:28] <bray90820> Anyone around
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  312. # [08:40] <bray90820> Does anyone know what's wrong with my page http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=sYz0MVY3
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  314. # [08:42] <patsToms> bray90820, mobile version and desktop version?
  315. # [08:42] <patsToms> so you have two versions?
  316. # [08:42] <bray90820> i do
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  318. # [08:42] <bray90820> i have 2 CSS files
  319. # [08:42] <patsToms> not one who will adapts - but two versions
  320. # [08:42] <patsToms> oh
  321. # [08:42] <bray90820> it gets an error when i validate
  322. # [08:42] <patsToms> bray90820, so use media queries
  323. # [08:43] <bray90820> how
  324. # [08:43] <bray90820> what should i look like
  325. # [08:43] <bray90820> it
  326. # [08:43] <patsToms> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/CSS/Media_queries
  327. # [08:43] <bray90820> I have been trying to figure this out for lilke 2 hours
  328. # [08:43] <bray90820> 3 hours
  329. # [08:44] <patsToms> seems like you have some wrong html code too
  330. # [08:44] <bray90820> at first i did try exactly what you put in the link
  331. # [08:44] <bray90820> the link you sent
  332. # [08:45] <bray90820> but then my desktop verson didn't look correct at all
  333. # [08:45] <patsToms> bray90820, try http://jsbin.com
  334. # [08:45] <patsToms> seems like you can´t use head at jsfiddle
  335. # [08:45] <bray90820> ?
  336. # [08:45] <patsToms> about this http://jsfiddle.net/VfNzp/
  337. # [08:46] <bray90820> what about it
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  339. # [08:47] <bray90820> Sorry i am just so confused right now
  340. # [08:48] <bray90820> patsToms: what about the last link you sent me
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  342. # [08:50] <patsToms> bray90820, I did random example http://jsbin.com/UJaWuPE/1/edit
  343. # [08:50] <patsToms> check that output
  344. # [08:50] <patsToms> make it bigger that 600px
  345. # [08:51] <bray90820> what is that showing me
  346. # [08:52] <patsToms> how media queries works
  347. # [08:52] <patsToms> at this example when width is bigger that 600px you will see div.big but when smalled div.small
  348. # [08:53] <bray90820> the desktop version look like it has no backround and stuff
  349. # [08:53] <patsToms> so whats the question, I don´t understand
  350. # [08:54] <bray90820> I have a website a with a mobile and a desktop version when i am on the mobile browser everything looks fine but when i am on the desktop it does not
  351. # [08:57] <bray90820> How would i get the desktop version to look correct
  352. # [08:57] <bray90820> hold for my code
  353. # [08:59] <bray90820> http://jsfiddle.net/5mjtD/
  354. # [08:59] <bray90820> when i put it into that website it looks fine
  355. # [08:59] <bray90820> but on my desktop it does not
  356. # [09:00] <bray90820> patsToms: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fpxvlp3f13orot/Screen%20Shot%202013-10-27%20at%203.03.30%20AM.png
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  358. # [09:00] <bray90820> that's what it looks like on my desktop
  359. # [09:00] <patsToms> why you did it again bray90820, use http://jsbin.com if you want to just paste your html5
  360. # [09:00] <patsToms> jsbin is not showing warnings?
  361. # [09:00] <patsToms> s/jsbin/jsfiddle
  362. # [09:01] <bray90820> patsToms: that last link is a picture
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  364. # [09:01] <patsToms> bray90820, I know, but I am writing about http://jsfiddle.net/5mjtD/
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  366. # [09:01] <bray90820> I used that
  367. # [09:02] <bray90820> what are you telling me
  368. # [09:02] <patsToms> http://jsbin.com/IsOpUcE/1
  369. # [09:02] <patsToms> paste ir at jsbin!
  370. # [09:03] <patsToms> so, whats the problem there?
  371. # [09:03] <bray90820> ok
  372. # [09:03] <bray90820> i will paste it there
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  376. # [09:03] <bray90820> it seems to look ok there
  377. # [09:03] <bray90820> http://jsbin.com/EsANAde/1/
  378. # [09:04] <bray90820> but why doesn't that picture i sent look ok
  379. # [09:07] <bray90820> patsToms: do you know what i am asking you
  380. # [09:07] <patsToms> bray90820, because image is not on the server
  381. # [09:08] <patsToms> <img src="yurt.jpg" height="250" width="320" alt="yurt">
  382. # [09:08] <bray90820> what?
  383. # [09:08] <patsToms> maybe host it somewhere and replace that relative url with thast
  384. # [09:08] <patsToms> *that
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  386. # [09:08] <bray90820> oh i know the picture isn't on the server
  387. # [09:08] <patsToms> sorry about that bad grammar
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  389. # [09:08] <bray90820> but the layout isent even the same
  390. # [09:09] <patsToms> oh
  391. # [09:09] <bray90820> there is no background image or anything on my end
  392. # [09:09] <bray90820> want me to send you a picture of how it should look?
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  394. # [09:10] <bray90820> here is a public link to the page
  395. # [09:10] <bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Pacific%207/Yurts.html
  396. # [09:10] <bray90820> so you can see that it's different then the last paste i sent you
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  398. # [09:11] <bray90820> patsToms: do you understand what i am saying
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  401. # [09:15] <bray90820> patsToms: i think there is an error with how i linked my css file
  402. # [09:16] <patsToms> bray90820, yes
  403. # [09:17] <bray90820> how would i link it correctly
  404. # [09:17] <patsToms> bray90820, your css file is included only when screen size is less than 480px
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  406. # [09:18] <bray90820> what i want is my desktop.css to load when the screen is over 480px and the mobile.css to load when it is less then 480px
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  409. # [09:19] <bray90820> How would i achieve that
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  411. # [09:21] <bray90820> patsToms: do you know how
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  416. # [09:27] <bray90820> patsToms: you there?
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  419. # [09:34] <patsToms> bray90820, <link rel="stylesheet" media="only screen and (max-width: 481px) "href="mobile.css">
  420. # [09:34] <patsToms> <link rel="stylesheet" media="only screen and (min-width: 481px) "href="desktop.css">
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  422. # [09:35] <bray90820> alright so i did do it right
  423. # [09:35] <bray90820> patsToms: thank you for your help
  424. # [09:39] <bray90820> patsToms: now i have this
  425. # [09:39] <bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GaRQaQmG
  426. # [09:39] <bray90820> everything works the way it should but it doesn't validate correctly
  427. # [09:39] <patsToms> oh
  428. # [09:40] <patsToms> you don´t need <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
  429. # [09:40] <patsToms> oh and <link rel="stylesheet" media="only screen and (max-width: 480px) "href="Pacific mobile.css">
  430. # [09:41] <patsToms> you haven´t closed media tag
  431. # [09:41] <bray90820> i should put a / at the end?
  432. # [09:41] <bray90820> before the >
  433. # [09:41] <bray90820> like this />
  434. # [09:41] <patsToms> no
  435. # [09:41] <patsToms> media=¨¨
  436. # [09:42] <patsToms> media="only screen and (max-width: 480px)"
  437. # [09:42] <patsToms> you have only media="only screen and (max-width: 480px)
  438. # [09:44] <bray90820> so what should it looklike
  439. # [09:44] <patsToms> <link rel="stylesheet" media="only screen and (max-width: 480px)" "href="Pacific mobile.css">
  440. # [09:45] <patsToms> oh, sorry
  441. # [09:45] <patsToms> no, i failed here haha
  442. # [09:46] <patsToms> change to this <link rel="stylesheet" media="only screen and (max-width: 480px)" href="Pacific%20mobile.css">
  443. # [09:46] <bray90820> I don't think that's right?
  444. # [09:46] <bray90820> well it passed
  445. # [09:46] <bray90820> but i don't think that's the code my teacher wanted me to use
  446. # [09:47] <patsToms> haha, why?
  447. # [09:48] <bray90820> in my assignment it says to use this
  448. # [09:48] <bray90820> media="only screen and (max-width: 480px)"
  449. # [09:48] <bray90820> but that doesn't valadate
  450. # [09:53] <bray90820> <link href="Pacific Mobile.css' rel="stylesheet" media="only screen and (max-width: 480px) ">
  451. # [09:53] <bray90820> that is what my book tells me to use
  452. # [09:53] <bray90820> patsToms: but obviously that us wrong
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  454. # [09:55] <patsToms> it's wrong because you have space in url
  455. # [09:55] <patsToms> replace it with %20
  456. # [09:55] <bray90820> if i made it all one word would it work?
  457. # [09:56] <patsToms> just chek it
  458. # [09:57] <bray90820> 1 word does work
  459. # [09:57] <bray90820> :) :) :) :) :) IT PASSED IT PASSED IT PASSED
  460. # [09:58] <bray90820> I was way to joyed by that
  461. # [09:58] <bray90820> I have been working on that for 9 freeken hours
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  647. # [15:34] <Fir3bug> Hey im just getting back into webdesign, is HTML5 actualy stable to use??
  648. # [15:34] <Fir3bug> Is HTML5 recognised in all browsers?
  649. # [15:35] <Fir3bug> or will the new shiny tags lke <header><article><footer> get ignored?
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  657. # [15:41] <patsToms> Fir3bug, chekc http://html5test.com/
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  666. # [15:52] <Fir3bug> patsToms: Cheers mate
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  778. # [18:22] <karthik> hello.. i'm plannign to build a webapplication(already built) ported to mobile app... need some info regarding the pattern used...
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  784. # [18:27] <karthik> I want to build a third party mobile application ... something like for example make an app that would run twitter which is already available .... i need to know how can i achieve it
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  788. # [18:28] <moo-_-> karthik: the question is still quite overly broad. you need to describe concrete technical details if you wish to people to help you here.
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  795. # [18:31] <karthik> i want to build an app that would be something like xchat but over a mobile plat form
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  798. # [18:31] <karthik> but then i am stuck at how do i achieve this
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  800. # [18:31] <karthik> am i specific nwo ?
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  813. # [18:35] <H4ckcode> Hi all
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  815. # [18:35] <karthik> hello
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  817. # [18:38] <H4ckcode> how are you Karthik
  818. # [18:41] <moo-_-> karthik: if you want real-time network API check Websockets and WebRTC
  819. # [18:41] <moo-_-> google will help you getting started
  820. # [18:41] <moo-_-> both are APIs which allow real-time networking
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  823. # [18:43] <karthik> im fine
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  825. # [18:43] <karthik> what are the methods to build 3rd party mobile apps.. something like build app that serve twitter or facebook or other websites ..
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  847. # [19:01] <moo-_-> karthik: first I suggest you study pubic Facebook and Twitter APIs on their developer site to see how to get information out from them
  848. # [19:04] <karthik> is it not possible to just liek that get the information out from a website and put it over hte mobile applciation ?
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  851. # [19:05] <moo-_-> karthik: it is not possible
  852. # [19:06] <moo-_-> karthik: I suggest you first learn HTML5 and web development basics by following some tutorials, before trying to tackle more complex tasks
  853. # [19:06] <karthik> oh ! okay .... so there has to be an a set of apis that has to be released from the source web applications to manipulate with the data inside them is it ?
  854. # [19:07] <karthik> im familiar with HTML5 jQuery
  855. # [19:07] <moo-_-> karthik: as far as I know Facebook provides APIs which can be used from Javascript
  856. # [19:08] <moo-_-> karthik: so I suggest you study them on Facebook site
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  858. # [19:08] <karthik> how about build ing an app for accessing google mails ? or goole maps etc ?
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  862. # [19:09] <moo-_-> karthik: again, this is a question you need to raise a specific service
  863. # [19:09] <moo-_-> karthik: go to study google material regarding the API access
  864. # [19:09] <moo-_-> karthik: they have plenty of it
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  866. # [19:10] <karthik> oh ok ok tanks man
  867. # [19:10] <karthik> it was helpful
  868. # [19:10] <moo-_-> karthik: no problem
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  870. # [19:10] <moo-_-> karthik: it will be complex task in any case, so I suggest you first do some basic examples of general web app building
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  874. # [19:11] <karthik> sure
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  905. # [19:51] <shvelo> Ahoy!
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  907. # [19:52] <moo-_-> shvelo: Aye mate
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  909. # [19:53] <CSN> shvelo and/or moo-_- do you have some spare time to help me out please? it's just basic html and css stuff
  910. # [19:53] <shvelo> CSN, depends
  911. # [19:54] <shvelo> btw, what's the best way of writing desktop apps with HTML5 UI? Apart from Chrome Packaged Apps
  912. # [19:54] <CSN> shvelo: can we PM?
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  914. # [19:54] <shvelo> CSN, sure
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  919. # [20:00] <moo-_-> shvelo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4869613/html5-for-desktop-application-development
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  923. # [20:11] <shvelo> moo-_-, hmm, didn't know about app.js
  924. # [20:12] <shvelo> what about CEF? (Chromium Embedded)
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  926. # [20:12] <moo-_-> shvelo: there are several frameworks for chrome/chromium to make standalone desktop app bundles, but I don't remember names out of my head
  927. # [20:13] <phuh> appjs?
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  935. # [20:18] <jn> anyone know if there is a workaround for window.scrollTo always scrolling to 0,0 on mobile safari in ios 7?
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  965. # [20:55] <phuh> shvelo: ludei
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  967. # [20:56] <shvelo> phuh, what?
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  969. # [20:56] <phuh> shvelo: ludei
  970. # [20:57] <shvelo> cool
  971. # [20:57] <shvelo> is it opensource?
  972. # [20:57] <phuh> no
  973. # [20:58] <phuh> cocos2d-x is
  974. # [20:58] <shvelo> Cocos is iphone bullshit
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  976. # [21:01] <shvelo> I'm gonna try MelonJS
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