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# [00:10] <ffog> how would I use <a download="whatever"> to download some bit of html on the page as an html file?
# [00:10] <ffog> i'm trying to save from codemirror's editor
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# [02:04] <Erston> hello ?
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# [02:15] <Rou> Sorry Erston, no ones here they're all dead
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# [02:16] <Rou> I'd help you but I don't know much HTML5
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# [06:16] <dprophit> I'm working out how to do a full product page with reviews. Anyone have a bookmark for a good boilerplate example?
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# [06:22] <dprophit> oh well I assume alot are asleep =)
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# [09:39] <DieguezZ> hi, i am using fontawesome on my website and now i am reading that <i> tag isnt made for that, and its widely regarded avoiding use of presentational tags. Is this really important? i also read a post in stackoverflow saying its not
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# [09:40] <moo-_-> DieguezZ: it is not
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# [09:41] <moo-_-> DieguezZ: however javascript was not meant to be a full programming language and CSS was not meant for complex presentations
# [09:42] <moo-_-> sometimes you sacrife theoretical beautiness in the name of practicality
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# [09:42] <DieguezZ> yeah, i read that they used <i> because its almost deprecated and wont have future problems..
# [09:42] <DieguezZ> but i wanted to know if that had any consequence on user experience or browsers
# [09:42] <DieguezZ> or google..
# [09:43] <moo-_-> DieguezZ: it doesn't
# [09:43] <DieguezZ> ty moo-_-
# [09:43] <moo-_-> because bootstrap uses it and bootstrap is most common layout framework currently being used in web
# [09:43] <DieguezZ> :)
# [09:44] <moo-_-> DieguezZ: millions of people would have complained already if there were issues
# [09:44] <DieguezZ> yeah i thought that so
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# [09:46] <DieguezZ> but one of the critizised points of bootstrap is that they force you to use non-semantic markup. Most people use it because it saves time on responsiveness.. it overloads everything with dom elements..
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# [09:46] <DieguezZ> so thats something that made me doubt.
# [09:47] <DieguezZ> i started using bootstrap but i started over from 0. I dont like it really, too much crap for what i want moo-_-
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# [10:41] <l8n8TJ> Can someone recommend a game creation tutorial?
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# [10:47] <JarJarBingDotCom> That's a very generic thing, l8n8TJ.
# [10:48] <l8n8TJ> I don't know anything about html5
# [10:49] <l8n8TJ> and would like to head the game creation way
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# [10:49] <JarJarBingDotCom> Do you know JavaScript+
# [10:49] <JarJarBingDotCom> *?
# [10:49] <l8n8TJ> yes, the basics
# [10:50] <JarJarBingDotCom> l8n8TJ: http://buildnewgames.com/
# [10:50] <JarJarBingDotCom> That site has a series of tutorials/articles which may interest you.
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# [18:09] <Varunkrishna_> How do I do validation of <input type="email">
# [18:09] <Varunkrishna_> I want to check whether the user has entered a valid email.
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# [18:10] <mstalfoort> Varunkrishna_, then you need to define a pattern attr also
# [18:10] <mstalfoort> see http://davidwalsh.name/html5-email
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# [18:12] <Varunkrishna_> mstalfoort that funny characters in the pattern is Regular Expression am I right?
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# [18:14] <Varunkrishna_> so how do I validate that password and conform password?
# [18:15] <mstalfoort> Varunkrishna_, you're right, the pattern accepts a regex
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# [18:16] <Varunkrishna_> <mstalfoort> I would like to get more understanding on that reqular expression, so where can I find it? and ideas?
# [18:16] <jayd3e> I'm using pjax, and every time I navigate, the chrome loading spinner(the replaces the favicon on page navigation) fires twice. It's incredibly annoying. I've added breakpoints to jquery-pjax and I've found that the loading spinner fires each time window.history.pushState or window.history.replaceState is called.
# [18:17] <jayd3e> Any way to fix this double load?
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# [18:25] <Varunkrishna_> Why is the <div> tag is not used in html5?
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# [20:50] * Topic is 'Ask any question about HTML5 & Friends || HTML5 Spec for Developers: http://developers.whatwg.org || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.info http://mzl.la/9giLwR || Channel logs: http://j.mp/cG7UDa'
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# [22:24] <jeffszusz> if i have more than one conteneditable div on a page, and i use undo functionality, it undoes changes in both divs
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# [22:24] <jeffszusz> is there a way I can exclude one of these from the undo stack?
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# [22:48] <moo-_-> jeffszusz: a very good question
# [22:49] <moo-_-> can you check from the spec should it behave like that?
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# [22:52] <jeffszusz> i'm not sure
# [22:52] <jeffszusz> it's very weird
# [22:52] <jeffszusz> on jsfiddle, the undo/redo functionality is restricted to the currently active text area
# [22:52] <jeffszusz> so i'm not sure why this app has text areas sharing the undo/redo stack
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# [23:12] <moo-_-> jeffszusz: it sounds it should not be default at least. every <textarea> has its own undo history, etc.
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# [23:14] <jeffszusz> yeah there must be something in the application that's causing it to share
# [23:14] <jeffszusz> but i'm having a hard time hunting that down
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