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  458. # [11:03] <dekiss> I have weird problem, I made emai lnewsletter, the newsletter has too much scrolling on mobiles, why?
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  462. # [11:08] <dekiss> I have viewprot meta tags, the email newsletter looks too much zoomed in iphone why?
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  464. # [11:10] <dekiss> I have this <meta content='width=device-width, target-densitydpi=device-dpi, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=0' name='viewport' />
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  490. # [12:10] <ghostlines> hello, I don't want the app cache to cache the anything that's not in my manifest file. So no base pages or images unless I explicitly specify it. Is this possible?
  491. # [12:10] <ghostlines> I currently have a problem with dom elements being cached so they aren't updated by javascript when I remove or add them because they're cached
  492. # [12:11] <Relequestual> manifest file? I wonder if you're in the wrong channel. What language are you using back end?
  493. # [12:13] <ghostlines> huh I mean the html5 app cache, which uses a manifest file
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  495. # [12:14] <Relequestual> ghostlines Sorry, my bad. I don't know much about html5 app cache... anyone else?
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  497. # [12:18] <dekiss> do you know any windows application that will search in some files for some text and replace this text with otehr text?
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  523. # [12:45] <bartzy> Hey
  524. # [12:46] <bartzy> I'm trying to draw a line on a canvas with opacity, but the opacity doesn't turn out like it should
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  531. # [12:50] <dgts2> when drawing rectangles on a canvas, what's the best approach to show some previously drawn rectangles in a different fill color? draw more rectangles with a different color on top of them? or is there another approach to save the shapes and just change the color?
  532. # [12:51] <dgts2> (wondering mostly about memory efficiency here.. would be interesting to know if shapes that are covered by other shapes get garbage collected?)
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  534. # [12:52] <bartzy> Please see http://jsfiddle.net/s34PL/
  535. # [12:52] <bartzy> About my question
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  537. # [12:53] <bartzy> dgts2: I think that once you filled/stroked the path, it doesn't count as an object. It's just pixels drawn on the canvas.
  538. # [12:53] <bartzy> dgts2: But I'm very new to canvas... Just something I read.
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  540. # [12:54] <bartzy> If anyone can help, I'm trying to draw a semi-transparent line on canvas by tracking mouse movement, but the line is almost always drawn opaque. I think the reason is due to the same point being painted multiple times? See http://jsfiddle.net/s34PL/ for an example.
  541. # [12:55] <dgts2> thx bartzy , i have the same assumption about canvas and memory
  542. # [12:56] <bartzy> :)
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  606. # [13:59] <ghostlines> like can I store media files
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  764. # [16:23] <bartzy> I'm trying to draw a semi-transparent line on canvas by tracking mouse movement, but the line is almost always drawn opaque. I think the reason is due to the same point being painted multiple times? See http://jsfiddle.net/s34PL/ for an example.
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  775. # [16:37] <MisterSpeaker> Hey bartzy: you could try messing with the canvas context globalCompositeOperation.... ctx.globalCompositeOperation = "xor";
  776. # [16:38] <bartzy> MisterSpeaker: When should I do that? On drawing the image? the line ?
  777. # [16:38] <bartzy> on mouseup/down? :|
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  780. # [16:40] <MisterSpeaker> Nah - it's kind of like the "blending mode" in photoshop... you really only need to set it once when you want to change the blending style
  781. # [16:40] <MisterSpeaker> here's an example: http://jsfiddle.net/eWurz/
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  783. # [16:40] <MisterSpeaker> but i just did a ctx.save() and ctx.restore() every frame, which is probably unnecessary for your app.
  784. # [16:41] <MisterSpeaker> Also, I just picked "xor" out of my head... I'm not sure why that works - i'd look in the docs and check the other styles too for one that makes more sense
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  786. # [16:41] <MisterSpeaker> actually, I guess xor does make sense
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  799. # [16:52] <bartzy> MisterSpeaker: Your example does not solve the problem
  800. # [16:53] <bartzy> MisterSpeaker: I still get opaque lines instead of semi-transparent ones...
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  808. # [16:58] <MisterSpeaker> Hmmm... I guess the problem is you're drawing on the same spot over and over and over again (60 times a second). One way would be to set the alpha reeeeealy low (like, 0.01) maybe combined with a really low ctx.globalAlpha.
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  811. # [16:58] <MisterSpeaker> Or, draw each "stroke" (from mouse down to mouse up) on a sepearte canvas and merge them at the end
  812. # [16:59] <MisterSpeaker> hmm, sorry... I don't know!
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  1084. # [21:26] <English-> hi folks, when drawing on a canvas, it appears that when a shape overlaps text, the text is still visible, rather than being clipped
  1085. # [21:26] <English-> is there a way around this?
  1086. # [21:26] <English-> I've read things like draw the canvas to memory and then use this as an image to draw on top of using another Canvas? but it seems rather complicated
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  1110. # [21:45] <moo-_-> English-: can you demostrate the issue with screenshot or jsfiddle.net example?
  1111. # [21:47] <English-> I don't have an example to hand, basically, I take a canvas that has been prepared by flot (charting software), I then want to draw some shapes over the top of the axis area
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  1113. # [21:48] <English-> but, where the shapes are drawn, they don't hide the axis text
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  1118. # [21:50] <English-> I can draw over other parts of the canvas, with a clearrect for example, that hides the chart gridlines
  1119. # [21:50] <English-> but the text is always visible, very annoying :)
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  1122. # [21:54] <English-> like this example http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17964182/clearrect-text-canvas-html5
  1123. # [21:55] <English-> seems pretty crazy that text has this magical property of refusing to be overwritten :)
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  1132. # [22:04] <moo-_-> English-: ah
  1133. # [22:04] <moo-_-> you are doing it wrong
  1134. # [22:04] <moo-_-> what you see is called subpixel antialiasing
  1135. # [22:04] <moo-_-> you cannot clear text by overdrawing it
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  1137. # [22:04] <moo-_-> and the same goes for other shapes
  1138. # [22:04] <moo-_-> basically just do a full layout redraw if the content changes
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  1140. # [22:05] <English-> ok, but even when I issue a clearrect, for the whole canvas, the text remains
  1141. # [22:05] <English-> maybe it's being drawn another way
  1142. # [22:05] <English-> only the text remains if I clear everything
  1143. # [22:06] <moo-_-> clearrect for the whole canvas clears the whole canvas
  1144. # [22:06] <moo-_-> you must be doing something else wrong
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  1147. # [22:06] <moo-_-> thus, please provide a standalone test on jsfiddle.net and I'll believe you :)
  1148. # [22:06] <English-> I've no doubt I'm doing something wrong :)
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  1154. # [22:08] <English-> bare with me
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  1157. # [22:10] <English-> http://jsfiddle.net/JSGd2/
  1158. # [22:10] <English-> my first jsfiddle! :)
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  1160. # [22:10] <English-> you see how the text remains?
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  1162. # [22:11] <English-> get rid of the clearrext line and you see the graph
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  1164. # [22:11] <English-> cleartext*
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  1166. # [22:13] <moo-_-> English-: one sec
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  1168. # [22:14] <moo-_-> mm actually I don't
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  1172. # [22:14] <moo-_-> there is no text in the canvas in the first place
  1173. # [22:14] <moo-_-> it is as DOM elements outside <canvas>
  1174. # [22:15] <moo-_-> you can find out using DOM inspector (web developer tools, Firebug and such)
  1175. # [22:15] <English-> wait, so you can see axis text, is that correct?
  1176. # [22:15] <English-> oh yeah I see, they are not part of the canvas
  1177. # [22:15] <English-> nightmare :)
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  1180. # [22:16] <English-> maybe there is a plugin for flot to draw the axis as part of the canvas, for example if you want to save the image they won't come with it
  1181. # [22:17] <English-> http://www.flotcharts.org/flot/examples/canvas/index.html
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  1183. # [22:20] <English-> http://jsfiddle.net/TA5cM/
  1184. # [22:20] <English-> sorted!
  1185. # [22:20] <English-> thank you moo-_- !!!!
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