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  53. # [00:55] <bray90820> What is the proper way to close a break tag
  54. # [00:55] <bray90820> with xhtml
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  57. # [00:59] <bray90820> Am i crazy or is is <br />
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  60. # [01:01] <j_wright> well <br /> is all of it, open and close
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  62. # [01:01] <bray90820> first i put <br> and he said it wasn't closed correctly so then i put <br /> and he still said it wasn't closed
  63. # [01:02] <bray90820> my teacher that is
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  65. # [01:04] <j_wright> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/diffs.html#h-4.6
  66. # [01:04] <j_wright> presuming you mean xhtml, not html4 or html5
  67. # [01:04] <bray90820> yes xhtml
  68. # [01:04] <j_wright> or http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/guidelines.html#C_2
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  71. # [01:06] <bray90820> oh well
  72. # [01:06] <bray90820> IDK
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  74. # [01:07] <j_wright> <br><br/> or <br></br> would be wrong, but <br/> or <br /> right, for xhtml
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  148. # [02:34] <`RobW> ok i'm stumped.. i have an html5 video with multiple sources (and no "type" attribute).. however, in android, I cannot get the video to even display. when debugging over adb, using chrome inspector, I tried doing $("video")[0].play() -- and console returns "undefined"... thoughts?
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  151. # [02:36] <`RobW> video works fine on desktops
  152. # [02:36] <kmiles> yeah, sounds about right
  153. # [02:37] <kmiles> maybe throw it up on a codepen/jsfiddle?
  154. # [02:37] <`RobW> http://my.36beta.com/rereel/
  155. # [02:37] <`RobW> mind the fonts please... heh
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  157. # [02:40] <kmiles> Dunno how to fix it, but i'm not getting video display either. Chrome on 4.4
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  160. # [02:43] <kmiles> same problem with safari on ios7
  161. # [02:44] <`RobW> yea no mobile phones will play it. strange huh?
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  165. # [02:47] <kmiles> par for the course i'm afraid. My experience with html5 video on mobile browsers is quirky at best
  166. # [02:48] <`RobW> I'm thinking about following through and disabling (removing from DOM) the video elements as they're being used as bg's, and just displaying the background image that's already assigned.
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  359. # [07:46] <gurke_> good morning :)
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  364. # [08:00] <Whiskey> on <img is thare anyway to show some text if image not load?
  365. # [08:04] <gurke_> Whiskey, use alt tag
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  368. # [08:08] <Whiskey> yeh but that also show on hoever over thats not good
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  372. # [08:10] <walk_wid_me> How to start with html5 app dev
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  375. # [08:12] <Whiskey> got it :)
  376. # [08:12] <Whiskey> use empty title whit alt tag works
  377. # [08:12] <walk_wid_me> lol
  378. # [08:12] <walk_wid_me> ok
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  455. # [09:51] <okdamn> hey :)
  456. # [09:52] <gurke_> hi
  457. # [09:52] <okdamn> is it possible to create gif having 4/5 base64 images?
  458. # [09:52] <okdamn> i'm capturing images trough webcam
  459. # [09:52] <okdamn> :P
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  462. # [09:53] <okdamn> gurke_: hi :)
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  489. # [10:27] <vhsjon> hi guys, when an invalid number has been entered into a input type=number, how can I fetch the actual value that is written? It gets set to "", but I want to differentiate between if a user has written an invalid number, or if they havent written anything at all. When I use jquery to check with .val(), that value is "" both when something wrong is
  490. # [10:27] <vhsjon> written and when nothing is written.
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  497. # [10:39] <vhsjon> lest den :)
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  501. # [10:45] <shoshy> hello, i've been trying for some days to figure out (including trying every stackoverflow answer regarding), why on iOS devices, my webapp gets cached and can't refresh its content (via add to home screen). I've got a manifest, which is valid (and i dont cache anything in it , except change the version # after i update something) , i've got it the right header (http://stackoverflow.com/questio
  502. # [10:45] <shoshy> ns/8792255/how-do-you-force-an-ipad-home-screen-bookmarked-web-app-to-refresh) . I've followe also https://developer.apple.com/library/safari/documentation/iPhone/Conceptual/SafariJSDatabaseGuide/OfflineApplicationCache/OfflineApplicationCache.html
  503. # [10:45] <shoshy> What am I missing?
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  512. # [10:53] <okdamn> guys you do you have any tip on how to skretch an <img> ?
  513. # [10:54] <gurke_> skretch?
  514. # [10:54] <okdamn> i mean change polar cordinations
  515. # [10:54] <okdamn> like to resize on y axis
  516. # [10:54] <okdamn> and x
  517. # [10:54] <gurke_> width: 600px; height: auto; ?
  518. # [10:54] <okdamn> i need to get photo put on img skretch save
  519. # [10:55] <okdamn> and actually the skretch part missing :P
  520. # [10:55] <gurke_> skretch isnt english
  521. # [10:55] <okdamn> uhmmm
  522. # [10:55] <okdamn> sec
  523. # [10:55] <okdamn> distort
  524. # [10:55] <gurke_> do you mean stretch?
  525. # [10:55] <okdamn> strech yeah
  526. # [10:55] <okdamn> damn XD thank you
  527. # [10:56] <okdamn> i'm donig this -> html5 webcam -> get photo -> put it as base64 to <img> element ->
  528. # [10:56] <okdamn> now i need to skretch it
  529. # [10:56] <okdamn> strech
  530. # [10:56] <okdamn> stretch wtf
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  532. # [10:56] <gurke_> if your stretch your photo with both width and height it loses its proportion
  533. # [10:57] <okdamn> sure doesn't matter
  534. # [10:57] <gurke_> then use width: and height?
  535. # [10:57] <okdamn> but stretch is not width and height
  536. # [10:57] <gurke_> it does stretch
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  538. # [10:57] <gurke_> do you have an testcase?
  539. # [10:57] <okdamn> uhmmmm sec i need to show you an example
  540. # [10:58] <okdamn> sec
  541. # [10:58] <okdamn> i'll back with example
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  543. # [11:00] <okdamn> gurke_: this is normal original photo http://i.imgur.com/I7CYk2s.png
  544. # [11:00] <gurke_> yes
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  547. # [11:00] <okdamn> and this: http://i.imgur.com/qRmFTRU.png
  548. # [11:00] <okdamn> is stretched
  549. # [11:01] <okdamn> as i would mean
  550. # [11:01] <gurke_> ah i see
  551. # [11:01] <okdamn> dunno how you call this effect
  552. # [11:01] <okdamn> in english sorry
  553. # [11:01] <gurke_> i dont know how to do that
  554. # [11:01] <gurke_> sorry
  555. # [11:01] <okdamn> damn no problem :P
  556. # [11:01] <okdamn> don't you know how it's this effect called ?
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  560. # [11:03] <okdamn> i mean i have to change x coordinates probably
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  563. # [11:07] <gurke_> i found it okdamn :)
  564. # [11:07] <okdamn> gurke_: oh lucky guy tell me tell me :P
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  566. # [11:07] <gurke_> okdamn, http://jsfiddle.net/gurke/9GvsS/
  567. # [11:08] <gurke_> thats it?
  568. # [11:08] <okdamn> gurke_: ohhh sorry you right but i mean i have to stretch the image source :P
  569. # [11:09] <okdamn> the bse64 source :P
  570. # [11:09] <okdamn> so i think i have to use drawImage() in html5
  571. # [11:09] <okdamn> and save it to canvas then save to base64 once more
  572. # [11:09] <okdamn> what you think
  573. # [11:10] <gurke_> hmm well that i dont know :)
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  577. # [11:12] <okdamn> np :P
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  712. # [14:18] <fosser_josh> http://jsfiddle.net/wvnLE/ i run this code on google chrome. It runs fine. But for safari, firefox this layout expand. i have to scroll horizontally and vertically to see the select_option_box div.
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  928. # [17:24] <abetusk_w> This is purely for curiosities sake, but is there a way to 'buffer' a file when reading it through FileReader? For example, if you were to upload a Gb file but needed to do some pre-processing before sending it over the wire, is there a way to process parts of the file without loading it all into browser memory?
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  930. # [17:24] <abetusk_w> Please tell me if my question is too vague or if I've misunderstood something
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  995. # [18:10] <shoshy> hello, i've been trying for some days to figure out (including trying every stackoverflow answer regarding), why on iOS devices, my webapp gets cached and can't refresh its content (via add to home screen). I've got a manifest, which is valid (and i dont cache anything in it , except change the version # after i update something) , i've got it the right header (http://stackoverflow.com/questio
  996. # [18:10] <shoshy> ns/8792255/how-do-you-force-an-ipad-home-screen-bookmarked-web-app-to-refresh) . I've followe also https://developer.apple.com/library/safari/documentation/iPhone/Conceptual/SafariJSDatabaseGuide/OfflineApplicationCache/OfflineApplicationCache.html , even tried the iframe hack. What am i missing? I still get the wrong version both on mobile safari + webapp ("Add to home screen") , both iphone/ipad
  997. # [18:10] <shoshy> , ios 7.0.4 , even after clearing the cache + history + removing web-app
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  1007. # [18:16] <patrickkettner> @shoshy - link?
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  1013. # [18:19] <shoshy> patrickkettner: sorry i can't provide a link, but what do you want me to provide, code wise, manifest wise, etc..
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  1015. # [18:20] <patrickkettner> link would just make it easy to debug. what are you using the manifest for? can you attach a debugging proxy like charles or fiddler to see what the network requests look like?
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  1023. # [18:24] <shoshy> patrickkettner: I don't want to cache ANYTHING @ the moment, it's a debug environment, in steps to going into production. In production i'll want to debug the static resources. The manifest: http://pastie.org/8547708 , I didn't use any debugging proxy like charles / fiddler, I did use winire on adobe's edge server
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  1026. # [18:29] <shoshy> The network requests looked good.. regular
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  1036. # [18:34] <patrickkettner> sorry shosy, there just isn't enough information to really help :/ I created a minimal html page with an image, oaded it up to a homescreen page on iOS 7.0.3, updated the image, reloaded, and everything worked fine. Are requests being made from the client? What are the http codes it is getting in response? which version of ios are you using?
  1037. # [18:35] <patrickkettner> *shoshy
  1038. # [18:37] <shoshy> "both iphone/ipad , ios 7.0.4 , even after clearing the cache + history + removing web-app "
  1039. # [18:38] <shoshy> requests are being made from the phone, yes. 200
  1040. # [18:38] <shoshy> it just looks like the JS / CSS aren't updated... :/
  1041. # [18:39] <patrickkettner> is it possible the backend isn't serving assests properly?
  1042. # [18:39] <patrickkettner> what happens when you curl for the same files
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  1045. # [18:41] <shoshy> hmm.. actually also on desktop, it's not the latest version... but it might be because all that manifest got tangled, sec, lemme remove the manifest @ chrome, and refresh
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  1048. # [18:45] <shoshy> yep, also on desktop.. got an issue.. wierd... :/ also my headers made sure has no cache ..
  1049. # [18:45] <shoshy> need to see why is that on desktop as well now.. it wasn't before.. (did a lot of testing)
  1050. # [18:45] <shoshy> maybe i'll restart apache there..
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  1052. # [18:46] <patrickkettner> good luck :]
  1053. # [18:46] <shoshy> thanks.. (restarting it didn't help)
  1054. # [18:47] <patrickkettner> It seems that at the moment, it is an apache issue.
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  1348. # [23:45] <linkdump> Please, hhich is more correct: <h1><a>..</a></h1> OR <a><h1>..</h1></a> ?
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  1355. # [23:50] <Dwight_Stegall> first one is correct
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  1357. # [23:51] <Dwight_Stegall> for awhile tey were talking about <h1 href=""> but it never happened
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  1359. # [23:52] <hober> linkdump: both are fine per the spec
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  1362. # [23:55] <linkdump> hober: thanks
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