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  159. # [15:50] <dkm> Cylent: why php? depending on your application you may be better suited with ruby or python
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  162. # [15:56] <patsToms> haha
  163. # [15:56] <moo-_-> I heard that JavaScript and node.js is the thing (tm)
  164. # [15:56] <patsToms> php > ruby :b
  165. # [15:57] <patsToms> and yes, node > all
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  168. # [15:58] <moo-_-> php < all
  169. # [15:59] <patsToms> why? :(
  170. # [16:00] <moo-_-> PHP is the programming language with most dedicated anti-fanatics and most sites explaining you pitfalls of PHP
  171. # [16:02] <patsToms> I have worked with php many years
  172. # [16:02] <patsToms> I have tried Sinatra and Rails too
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  174. # [16:02] <patsToms> but PHP community is doing well with many good frameworks too :b
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  195. # [16:47] <patsToms> moo-_-, are you coding backend?
  196. # [16:47] <moo-_-> many
  197. # [16:47] <patsToms> and what are you useing there?
  198. # [16:47] <moo-_-> python, php, java, node
  199. # [16:48] <patsToms> so, there is no ruby? haha
  200. # [16:49] <moo-_-> I have no personal experience with Ruby, but according to the folks who have experience both Python and Ruby they usually think those are in-par feature wise and in easy-to-use
  201. # [16:49] <patsToms> what frameworks are they useing?
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  203. # [16:50] <patsToms> I couldn' t say that python is easy-to-use If we are comparing it to something like php
  204. # [16:51] <moo-_-> patsToms: you are entitled to your opinion :)
  205. # [16:51] <njbair> I thought it was possible to edit HTML inside Chrome's dev tools Sources tab. Does anyone know about this?
  206. # [16:51] <moo-_-> njbair: Elements tab
  207. # [16:51] <moo-_-> only
  208. # [16:51] <moo-_-> AFAIK
  209. # [16:51] <njbair> but you can't save those changes, right?
  210. # [16:52] <patsToms> ctrl+s? haha
  211. # [16:52] <moo-_-> njbair: there might have been plugins for live editing
  212. # [16:52] <moo-_-> njbair: usually it works other way around
  213. # [16:53] <moo-_-> njbair: you edit HTML in your editor and Chrome is live refreshed
  214. # [16:53] <njbair> moo-_-: gotcha
  215. # [16:53] <patsToms> moo-_-, what are you doing at frontend? Using any framework there?
  216. # [16:53] <moo-_-> bootstrap
  217. # [16:53] <patsToms> I mean something like angular
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  219. # [16:53] <moo-_-> ah, not in the current projects
  220. # [16:54] <moo-_-> though I am fan of modern framework. I have been just following the discussion. The last time I used some heavy front end framework it was ExtJS.
  221. # [16:54] <moo-_-> backbone probably doesn't country as a framework
  222. # [16:54] <moo-_-> count
  223. # [16:54] <patsToms> but it's something good too
  224. # [16:54] <patsToms> haha
  225. # [16:56] <patsToms> moo-_-, just another random question
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  228. # [16:57] <moo-_-> patsToms: shoot
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  230. # [16:59] <patsToms> oh, sorry for slowness, I'm sleepy haha. What do you think about jQuery versus Zapto or others like Vanilla
  231. # [16:59] <dkm> there seems to be a trend towards static-site generation now too
  232. # [17:00] <moo-_-> dkm: makes sense for most business card websites
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  234. # [17:00] <moo-_-> no wordpress needed
  235. # [17:00] <dkm> moo-_-: yeah, and most blogs
  236. # [17:01] <dkm> and healthcare.gov!
  237. # [17:01] <moo-_-> patsToms: jQuery is here to stay in web. In mobile things might be different.
  238. # [17:01] <patsToms> dkm, sound like Yeoman's workflow haha
  239. # [17:01] <dkm> was really happy/optimistic to read this: http://developmentseed.org/blog/new-healthcare-gov-is-open-and-cms-free/
  240. # [17:02] <dkm> I do want to learn me some Nodejs
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  242. # [17:02] <moo-_-> healthcare.gov is the infamous U.S. project?
  243. # [17:02] <dkm> moo-_-: yep
  244. # [17:02] <patsToms> where you all come from?
  245. # [17:03] <moo-_-> I think the project needs more big enterprises, Java and outsourcing
  246. # [17:03] <moo-_-> and definitely some XML
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  248. # [17:03] <patsToms> oh, another random question
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  251. # [17:04] <patsToms> what about Scala and Play? ^_^
  252. # [17:04] <patsToms> Play > all
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