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# Session Start: Fri Jan 24 00:00:00 2014
# Session Ident: #html5
# [00:00] <rennat41> http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.remote-files.php
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# [00:02] <rennat41> Siecje: You could use php to open the file and parse the data, then display it how you want.
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# [00:13] <Siecje> rennat41: so you need a server?
# [00:13] <rennat41> Yes.
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# [00:16] <Siecje> even with html5?
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# [00:18] <rennat41> yes, html5 is just a markup language. it can't actually communicate with a server without php or javascript or another similar language
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# [00:22] <Siecje> What if you get the user to download the file and use local storage to access it?
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# [00:34] <rennat41> Siecje: I don't know enough about local storage
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# [00:55] <jeef3> HTML5 + the File API, no need for server
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# [01:03] <Siecje> jeef3: what is the file api?
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# [01:11] <jeef3> Siecje: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File
# [01:12] <jeef3> Basically, gives JavaScript the ability to open local files and read their contents. You could also upload to a server if you needed.
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# [01:15] <Siecje> where does it save the file? how big can the files be?
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# [01:16] <jeef3> It's for opening a file in-memory, so doesn't save it anywhere. You can however "download" it again.
# [01:17] <jeef3> You can use it to save though. So I've used it to create a file from JavaScript, and offer it to the browser as a download.
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# [01:18] <jeef3> I've also used it to get a local file (happened to be a CSV) read it, then send each line in the CSV as a POST to a server
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# [01:18] <jeef3> is any of that the sort of thing you are after?
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# [10:04] <mokush> I'm doing responsive retrofitting on a website, but have to work directly on its dev site, online. Is there a way I could have a css/sass inject and live-reload, maybe trough a chrome extension?
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# [12:20] <Guesf2382> hi
# [12:20] <Guesf2382> is it possible to get html4 help in here?
# [12:20] <Guesf2382> or is there anywhere you can get html4 or xhtml help in a chat or something anywhere?
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# [12:28] <Left_Turn> Guesf2382, u can try #html
# [12:29] <Left_Turn> or just ask your question and wait to see if anyone can answer
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# [13:01] <Guesf2382> i tried #html but
# [13:01] <Guesf2382> #html Cannot send to channel
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# [13:06] <dahlfors1> html4? not many use that anymore
# [13:06] <dahlfors1> xhtml or html5
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# [13:15] <Guesf2382> well whatever. i don't really know the differences too much honestly. xhtml then
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# [13:18] <Guesf2382> i need html help and i'm not really good at html or coding or anything
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# [13:18] <Guesf2382> i'm not very good at talking either so i made a picture
# [13:18] <Guesf2382> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/155802973/embed%20code%20iframe%20code%202%20top%20and%20bottom%20code%20left%20and%20right%20code%201.PNG
# [13:18] <Guesf2382> basically i'm trying to get this code basically i'm trying to get this code basically i'm trying to get this code https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/155802973/iframehorizontal.html
# [13:19] <Guesf2382> also i'm trying to get rid of the white border around the windows
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# [13:19] <Guesf2382> this is the page i'm editing and you can hopefully see my progress or struggle on https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/155802973/iframework.html
# [13:20] <dahlfors1> your problem is that there is margin on <body>
# [13:20] <dahlfors1> body { margin: 0; } in css
# [13:21] <dahlfors1> margin needs to be set to 0 so that your elements can fill all the way to the edges
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# [13:28] <Guesf2382> so the solution has to be done in css? to get it to do what i want it to do? sorry just making sure 'cause again i don't really code at all so
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# [13:36] <dahlfors1> yes
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# [13:37] <Guesf2382> ok thanks
# [13:37] <Guesf2382> also here are the 2 codes if you don't wanna view-source: http://pastebin.com/ewA8z9rM http://pastebin.com/4W2NBVXi
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# [14:10] <Guesf2382> well i'll try to figure it out then thanks, i guess... it's interesting how if they're horizontal it doesn't need css but if they're vertical it does apparently...
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# [14:13] <HD|Laptop> Hi
# [14:14] <HD|Laptop> Any way I can store stuff larger than 5MB (serialized JSON objects) on the client without having to use the nightmare called IndexedDB?
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# [16:38] <ShawnRisk> How do I create an MP3 Player with a playlist that starts when I click a link? The link is on the left side of the page, the time lapse is on the right and the title of the song is at the bottom.
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# [19:34] <BullSherd> Wow, Google is making really strange things http://goo.gl/YEkaMA
# [19:34] <BullSherd> funny haha xD
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# [19:47] <k1p1Black> Hi guys
# [19:48] <k1p1Black> I have a problem with one of my html code
# [19:48] <k1p1Black> In google chrome the layout is as expected
# [19:48] <k1p1Black> in moz its kinda different
# [19:48] <moo-_-> k1p1Black: can you repeat the issue on jsfiddle.net and share it?
# [19:48] <k1p1Black> sure
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# [19:51] <k1p1Black> I kinda feel it hard to use it
# [19:51] <k1p1Black> Can i post an image of the layout ?
# [19:51] <k1p1Black> I have used bxslider.js
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# [19:52] <moo-_-> k1p1Black: sorry not interested in images
# [19:53] <moo-_-> the problem could be anything
# [19:53] <moo-_-> so there is no point to do guessing
# [19:53] <moo-_-> code or it didn't happen :)
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# [19:55] <k1p1Black> Yep
# [19:55] <k1p1Black> i'll try it again
# [19:55] <k1p1Black> But i have multiple js files
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# [19:57] <moo-_-> try isolate the issue
# [19:57] <moo-_-> helps debugging too
# [19:58] <k1p1Black> http://jsfiddle.net/7qcXM/
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# [19:58] <k1p1Black> JS and CSS files are bxslider library files
# [19:59] <k1p1Black> I guess the problem is with the way i defined the styling of my webpage
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# [20:01] <moo-_-> k1p1Black: are you familiar with Firebug and Chrome's Inspector?
# [20:01] <k1p1Black> i have firebug installed
# [20:01] <moo-_-> k1p1Black: cool
# [20:01] <moo-_-> you can open the page in both chrome and firebug
# [20:01] <moo-_-> and inspect styles
# [20:01] <k1p1Black> Chrome's inspector = inspect element?
# [20:01] <moo-_-> yeah
# [20:02] <moo-_-> most likely the difference is cause by lack of "css reset"
# [20:02] <moo-_-> e.g. normalizing browser default styles for lists, etc.
# [20:02] <k1p1Black> i'll chk it now
# [20:02] <moo-_-> k1p1Black: http://www.cssreset.com/
# [20:03] <k1p1Black> thanks
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# [20:04] <k1p1Black> shld i just copy the code and paste it ?
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# [20:15] <moo-_-> k1p1Black: usually I add reset.css etc.
# [20:15] <moo-_-> as the first CSS file
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# [20:15] <moo-_-> if you use any CSS framework they come with their own resets usually
# [20:16] <k1p1Black> thanks bro!
# [20:16] <k1p1Black> Got it corrected
# [20:16] <k1p1Black> works perfectly
# [20:16] <k1p1Black> :)
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# [20:17] <moo-_-> np
# [20:17] <moo-_-> it was just lucky guess
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# [20:18] <k1p1Black> :)
# [20:18] <tandroid> Normalize not reset :)
# [20:19] <tandroid> I just got corrected on that in #css earlier
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# [20:24] <k1p1Black> It works perfectly in IE and chrome
# [20:25] <k1p1Black> I changed the top margin
# [20:25] <k1p1Black> But in moz i need to scroll to right to view the rest of the page
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# [20:42] <YoziInABox> Is there anyone that can give me a little advice?
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# [20:45] <YoziInABox> I'm trying to "decorate" my html5 form. Not sure what the easiest way would be. Was wondering if anyone could help.
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# [20:49] <tandroid> Not sure what you mean?
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# [21:38] <moo-_-> sorry
# [21:38] <moo-_-> d'oh
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