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  145. # [03:13] <tmart> lately, i've been seeing anchor links (foo.com#content) seemingly reloading the whole page to display a new piece of content. for years, i'd seen these urls used for essentially scrolling the broswer to a particular point; e.g. (load foo.com if not already loaded and then) have the browser scroll down to the #content anchor. what is going on with this newer technique? is there a name for it? links to docs?
  146. # [03:18] <BombStrike> hashchange routing I'd say, or something like that
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  155. # [03:24] <cfoch> hello... could somebody help me with draggable objects, please?
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  158. # [03:29] <tmart> BombStrike: I think you're right, after looking into it some more. (almost gets me mad...just use url paths!?)
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  226. # [04:49] <dekiss> http://46.217.80.214/site65/page2.php
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  242. # [04:58] <cfoch> what is dataTransfer used for?
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  253. # [05:04] <jarek> Hi
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  257. # [05:04] <jarek> if I define global app font face using @font-face declaration, will I be able to use this font inside web components?
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  259. # [05:06] <jarek> i.e. I would like the components to not inherit any styles from parent document, but I would like to use fonts declared in parent's CSS
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  330. # [06:50] <omnipapr> Is there a channel where I can find people who may be interested in building a project?
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  336. # [06:58] <obert> omnipapr: #css-lance ?
  337. # [06:58] <obert> there are tons of sites with job offers, often they sucks and/or they payment is small
  338. # [06:59] <omnipapr> Thanks obert well if anyone is interested omnipapr.com is the project thanks in advance man
  339. # [07:00] <obert> omnipapr: if you pay decently you will find someone
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  341. # [07:00] <omnipapr> Im working by myself looking for a guy to roll with just doing it for the passion here man
  342. # [07:01] <obert> passion doesnt pay bread
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  344. # [07:01] <omnipapr> It doesnt but great things come from passion I'm 20 not like I can afford someone anyway well if your interested in hacking up some JS with me let me know
  345. # [07:02] <obert> i am working for money, sorry
  346. # [07:03] <omnipapr> Clearly, hope that takes you far man, good luck.
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  386. # [08:22] <sportman> is there a good channel for html5 mobile development discusison?
  387. # [08:25] <gde33> was there a way to play a sound on hover in pure css?
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  427. # [09:24] <moo-_-> gde33: no
  428. # [09:25] <gde33> moo-_-: sorry, still looking, when was it removed?
  429. # [09:25] <gde33> for example, it is here under examples: http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/generate/content.htm
  430. # [09:25] <gde33> here too http://coursesweb.net/css/pseudo-elements
  431. # [09:26] <moo-_-> gde33: use JavaScript and <audio> tag to get the widest browser coverage
  432. # [09:26] <gde33> just looking if js is absolutly nesasary
  433. # [09:27] <moo-_-> browsers don't use Wav sound files
  434. # [09:27] <moo-_-> or, at least, the support is very poor
  435. # [09:27] <moo-_-> the example looks like something which might have worked in Netscape 4.x in early 00s
  436. # [09:27] <gde33> all examples I find use wav lol
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  440. # [09:27] <gde33> yeah, one use to use it to make the space age hover menu :P
  441. # [09:28] <gde33> back in the animation days
  442. # [09:28] <moo-_-> gde33: you can make an audio playable on hover with few lines of jQuery
  443. # [09:28] <moo-_-> like this
  444. # [09:28] <gde33> I dont use jquery
  445. # [09:28] <gde33> I can do it in js but it seems css stuff
  446. # [09:28] <moo-_-> $(".my-menu-element").on("mouseover", function() { $("#audio-element").get(0).play(); });
  447. # [09:29] <moo-_-> not tested
  448. # [09:29] <moo-_-> but along the lines
  449. # [09:29] <gde33> I have many menu items
  450. # [09:30] <moo-_-> gde33: I suggest you study jQuery a bit... it will make your life easier
  451. # [09:30] <gde33> all I know is that you need an audio element for each to make it sound good
  452. # [09:30] <gde33> jquery does nothing I cant already do, it would be a lot of work
  453. # [09:30] <moo-_-> the mouse over event is fired each time the mouse enters the matching element (.my-menu-element CSS class)
  454. # [09:31] <moo-_-> gde33: think it as the investment for "less work in the future"
  455. # [09:31] <allsociety> vanilla js (not the lib) > jquery
  456. # [09:31] <moo-_-> naturally, the same effect can be achieved with pure DOM event listeners
  457. # [09:31] <gde33> jquery is to give noobs supper powers on day 1
  458. # [09:32] <gde33> witha for(b in a) loop :)
  459. # [09:32] <allsociety> ^
  460. # [09:32] <allsociety> AMEN
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  462. # [09:33] <moo-_-> well, there is a reason why people tend to use jQuery and it's cut down the development time and cross-browser issues. However if you think you can manage without I recommend you to take vanilla JS approach.
  463. # [09:33] <moo-_-> http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/js-jquery/all/all
  464. # [09:33] <gde33> my lib is this http://neanderthal.go-here.nl/
  465. # [09:34] <gde33> it has 1 user lol
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  467. # [09:38] <allsociety> Vanilla all day..again not the lib called vanilla JS i just mean good old normal JS...why did they have to name it vanilla js for the lib too!
  468. # [09:38] <moo-_-> allsociety: for SEO, maybe? :)
  469. # [09:38] <gde33> banana.js
  470. # [09:38] <allsociety> moo-_- u sir have a point
  471. # [09:40] <allsociety> gde33 thats a lot of syntactical sugar in banana.js http://bananajs.com/tutorial_page_navigation
  472. # [09:40] <gde33> right I should have known it already existed
  473. # [09:40] <allsociety> LOLLLLL
  474. # [09:41] <gde33> allsociety: you can load all these things with neanderthal
  475. # [09:41] <allsociety> let me peep on site brb
  476. # [09:42] <allsociety> neanderthal.js too OP too stronK
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  478. # [09:43] <gde33> it is everything you will ever need to load into the bouncy visitors client
  479. # [09:43] <allsociety> go ahead click it just an alert its so lOLz
  480. # [09:43] <gde33> people leave your website rightaway anyway
  481. # [09:43] <gde33> haha
  482. # [09:43] <gde33> allsociety: finally someone who understands
  483. # [09:44] <gde33> that moment, not sure if to click the link
  484. # [09:44] <allsociety> EXACTLY hahaha
  485. # [09:44] <allsociety> then its just an elaborate alert func
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  630. # [13:42] <allsociety> Has anyone here coded while on acid
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  659. # [14:21] <JonasSK> Hello, i want to create a rotating line in canvas, like this: http://awwapp.com/s/fc/bf/86.png
  660. # [14:21] <JonasSK> Anyone that can help me?
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  690. # [14:48] <allsociety> have it loop through the animation frame making changes to the object inside the canvas
  691. # [14:48] <allsociety> its like an event loop until 100% completion in this case 360 rotation
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  914. # [17:53] <Devine9> I just need an export list of twitter id's which have tweeted the hashtag.. I could code something with the twitter api 1.1 though I'm guessing there's a service that already does it.
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  1036. # [20:01] <IHT> Stupid problem guys. My form (cPanel + CGI) doesn't seem to send special characters properly. I have put in the form accept-charset="UTF-8" but doesn't seem to do the trick. Ideas?
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  1046. # [20:11] <patsToms> maybe it's problem in backend
  1047. # [20:11] <patsToms> or database
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  1071. # [20:30] <agjmills> \/2
  1072. # [20:30] <sportman> anyoneh ave recommendations for mobile friend event calendars
  1073. # [20:30] <sportman> ideally something like this but hopefully not $250 http://mobiscroll.com/
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  1078. # [20:33] <moo-_-> sportman: I would try to find something Boostrap based
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  1080. # [20:33] <moo-_-> http://exacttarget.github.io/fuelux/ is nice, but doesn't have the exact component you are looking for, though there are date-related stuff
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  1087. # [20:36] <sportman> moo i have nothing agaisnst modifying some code any suggestions are most appreciated
  1088. # [20:37] <sportman> thanks :)
  1089. # [20:37] <moo-_-> sportman: in any case look for modern framework like Bootstrap or Foundation
  1090. # [20:37] <moo-_-> and components fro them
  1091. # [20:37] <moo-_-> as they are mobile friendly out-of-the-box
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  1095. # [20:38] <sportman> yea i kept on searching for jquery and html5 ones
  1096. # [20:38] <sportman> and they loooked like meh
  1097. # [20:38] <sportman> first search with adding the word bootstrap to it found me something sexy
  1098. # [20:38] <sportman> http://bootstrap-calendar.azurewebsites.net/
  1099. # [20:39] <sportman> i'm a bit hungover went to the isles rangers outdoor game yesterday so brain isn't at full capacity
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  1105. # [20:48] <moo-_-> isles as Scottish islands?
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  1176. # [22:06] <hotsauce> Quick question, why might a page display a little different when published to a web server versus opened like a file within my browser? I'm having a couple elements shift up when using html5 tag, verified as well.
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  1179. # [22:08] <patsToms> hotsauce, check browser console. Maybe there is some fils which is not loaded or something
  1180. # [22:08] <hotsauce> hmm
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  1186. # [22:14] <hotsauce> I have this dropped: -moz-border-radius, is this not allowed in html5?
  1187. # [22:14] <moo-_-> hotsauce: http://caniuse.com/#search=border-radius
  1188. # [22:15] <hotsauce> oh damn, how have I never seen this site?
  1189. # [22:15] <moo-_-> hotsauce: hang more in internet, quit life :)
  1190. # [22:15] <hotsauce> lel
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  1304. # [23:50] <hotsauce> Some progress lel. Using Firebug, div is greyed out. I presume something is hidden somehow.
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  1310. # [23:51] <jeef3> Could be some invalid HTML? Although you said it verified?
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  1314. # [23:54] <hotsauce> It did verify, im close, I clicked a bunch of stuff out that was greyed, and it fixed it. I need to remove one at a time to see whihc makes it work.
  1315. # [23:55] <hotsauce> It did verify, however...
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  1320. # [23:57] <hotsauce> Hmm, after refreshing, the issue seems resolved. Does firebug keep a cache or something?
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