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69. # [01:32] <LindsayMac> hello
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72. # [01:35] <LindsayMac> I am trying to play with the browser history stuff pushState() etc.. i am having a hard time understanding the stateObj and if I can use that after the hash is changed
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84. # Session Ident: #html5
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88. # [01:52] * Topic is 'Ask any question about HTML5 & Friends || HTML5 Spec for Developers: http://developers.whatwg.org || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.info http://mzl.la/9giLwR || Channel logs: http://j.mp/cG7UDa'
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100. # [01:56] <LindsayMac> it seems no matter what I do, event.state is returning undefined even though forward and back is working
101. # [01:56] <LindsayMac> makes no sense
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181. # [02:40] <LindsayMac> wow this place is quieter than I thought it would be
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664. # [12:44] <SiliconBard> Are there more users for html5 or android/mac/linux/windows? I'm writing a game.
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672. # [12:47] <SiliconBard> ?
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678. # [12:51] <moo-_-> SiliconBard: html5 runs on android/mac/linux/windows so your question does not make sense
679. # [12:51] <moo-_-> is your question "I want to create game of type X. Should I go with HTML5 or something else?"
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683. # [12:55] <SiliconBard> moo-_- yes, with the caveat if it'll work. intially 2d games, but maybe after that 3d.
684. # [12:55] <moo-_-> mobile or desktop?
685. # [12:55] <SiliconBard> ideally, just as many players as possible.
686. # [12:55] <SiliconBard> mobile, secondary.
687. # [12:56] <moo-_-> then HTML might be an option
688. # [12:56] <SiliconBard> ok
689. # [12:56] <SiliconBard> how about tablets?
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691. # [12:56] <moo-_-> HTML5 is coming there, but you probably need to wrap your game to native app
692. # [12:56] <moo-_-> check out http://impactjs.com/
693. # [12:56] <SiliconBard> are there certain libraries? if i go 3d should i use GL?
694. # [12:57] <moo-_-> also see https://code.zynga.com/2013/02/go-multi-platform-with-cocos2d-js/
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696. # [12:57] <moo-_-> SiliconBard: if you go 3d use something like http://threejs.org/
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700. # [13:00] <SiliconBard> ok
701. # [13:00] <SiliconBard> thank you moo-_-.
702. # [13:00] <moo-_-> np
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751. # [14:05] <Neon> When using WebSockets, is it possible to add a (self-signed) SSL certificate for using https/wss?
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756. # [14:10] <moo-_-> Neon: I'd guess you need to import the certificate to the browser manually or with https:// page first
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759. # [14:13] <Neon> moo-_-: Apparently. The weird thing is that the page just doesn't load. It's a local html file and I open it directly with firefox (no webserver). It then connects to my testserver (Node.js HTTPS server) using Socket.io (probably WebSocket).
760. # [14:13] <Neon> It just loads forever.
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762. # [14:14] <Neon> I added the cert as exception, but it still doesn't load. I can't really tell what's wrong from this behavior. I wish Firefox would simply give me an error message. :(
763. # [14:14] <moo-_-> Neon: use a test server, file:// protocol has several quirks and security weirdness
764. # [14:14] <Neon> Okay, I'll try that.
765. # [14:15] <moo-_-> Neon: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-really-simple-http-server-python
766. # [14:15] <moo-_-> for example
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769. # [14:17] <Neon> moo-_-: Thanks, but I've such a thing from Node.js already.
770. # [14:17] <moo-_-> Neon: cool
771. # [14:17] <moo-_-> watchify?
772. # [14:17] <moo-_-> I am using Beefy with browserify
773. # [14:17] <Neon> https://www.npmjs.org/package/http-server
774. # [14:17] <Neon> It's just called http-server
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780. # [14:28] <Neon> Note: It's recommended to set your Firefox NoScript addon to allow https://localhost when testing WebSocket stuff locally.
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782. # [14:30] <Neon> But what you said, worked, moo-_-. Thanks. :D
783. # [14:30] <moo-_-> np
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833. # [15:11] <parzo> Hey quick question, would it be possible to write a client side web crawler using Web Workers in HTML5?
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838. # [15:15] <tomreyn> hi
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841. # [15:16] <moo-_-> parzo: no
842. # [15:16] <tomreyn> i'm involved in developing a real-time strategy game, and we have several users who spoil the game for both themselves and others because they have plenty of packet loss.
843. # [15:16] <moo-_-> parzo: JavaScript same origin policy
844. # [15:16] <tomreyn> now i'm looking for some web based test for packet loss, which doesn't depend on java or flash
845. # [15:16] <parzo> moo-_-: I didn't think so but I wasnt sure what the technical reason would have been but there you go I guess ;)
846. # [15:16] <tomreyn> i guess this should be possible with websockets?
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866. # [15:25] <gurke_> when i have an <input type="text" value=""> and i want to insert a link into that value.. how can i do that? it does not work since in my link the char " is used..
867. # [15:26] <gurke_> i have a text called from my db where a link is included
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872. # [15:28] <Neon> gurke_: You want to input the link manually in thetag attribute?
873. # [15:28] <gurke_> by php
874. # [15:28] <gurke_> and also by the user
875. # [15:28] <gurke_> so yes its manually
876. # [15:29] <Neon> gurke_: Try http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.htmlentities.php
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878. # [15:30] <Neon> Either with the ENT_QUOTES flag or (even better) with all the conversions.
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894. # [15:40] <gurke_> neon does not work
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896. # [15:40] <Neon> gurke_: What happens?
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899. # [15:41] <gurke_> neon same
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902. # [15:42] <gurke_> cant i escape chars in html?!
903. # [15:43] <gurke_> like in regex
904. # [15:43] <gurke_> \\ is \
905. # [15:43] <Neon> gurke_: Then you probably did something wrong. If you put print(htmlentities("\"")) somewhere in your script it should output something different from ".
906. # [15:43] <Neon> &quot; or the like.
907. # [15:43] <Neon> Well, HTML entities are the way XML/HTML escapes characters.
908. # [15:43] <gurke_> okay
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910. # [15:44] <gurke_> can i use htmlentities into a EOT?
911. # [15:44] <gurke_> i get an error now
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913. # [15:44] <gurke_> <input type="text" id="product" name="product" value="{htmlentities($result['product'])}"><br /><br />
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921. # [15:50] <Neon> gurke_: EOT?
922. # [15:51] <Neon> Just noticed how difficult it is to figure out the entity for " and test it.
923. # [15:51] <Neon> It's somehow not listed in the list from the W3C.
924. # [15:51] <Neon> but it's &quot;
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942. # [16:06] <Oun_> ladies
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944. # [16:06] <Oun_> someone using SVG
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1403. # [19:30] <ProLoser> hallo
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1405. # [19:30] <ProLoser> anyone use <script async>?
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