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  125. # [04:13] <axilaris> i got a question on html5 validation like required... how can i put validation so that number that can be entered must be more than 0 ? and only numbers ?
  126. # [04:14] <doctrv> axilaris: in an input?
  127. # [04:14] <axilaris> yes
  128. # [04:14] <axilaris> use pattern ?
  129. # [04:14] <axilaris> min and max didnt work though
  130. # [04:15] <axilaris> <input type="number" name="" value="" required />
  131. # [04:15] <axilaris> for example
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  133. # [04:15] <axilaris> but thats for empty validation
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  136. # [04:16] <axilaris> min and max does work
  137. # [04:16] <doctrv> use type=range
  138. # [04:16] <doctrv> and min and max should work
  139. # [04:16] <axilaris> <input id="quantity" name="quantity" type="number" min="1" max="8000" maxlength="4" required />
  140. # [04:17] <doctrv> yea that should work
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  142. # [04:18] <axilaris> this wont work <input id="quantity" name="quantity" type="number" min="1" maxlength="4" required />
  143. # [04:18] <axilaris> maxlength cant be limited
  144. # [04:19] <doctrv> maxlength is for characters, not numbers
  145. # [04:20] <axilaris> ok
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  147. # [04:20] <doctrv> see massive chart for accepted combinations: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#concept-input-apply
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  150. # [04:21] <axilaris> thanks doc
  151. # [04:22] <doctrv> you bet axil
  152. # [04:23] <axilaris> this doesnt work <input id="quantity" name="quantity" type="text" min="1" max="100000" required />
  153. # [04:23] <axilaris> if type is text
  154. # [04:23] <axilaris> let me check the chart
  155. # [04:24] <axilaris> i guess i would have to use pattern
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  157. # [04:25] <axilaris> how do i do a pattern of minimum 1 ?
  158. # [04:25] <doctrv> for text there's minlength and maxlength
  159. # [04:26] <axilaris> but i dont want 0 or minus value
  160. # [04:26] <doctrv> how would you have minus text?
  161. # [04:26] <axilaris> -1
  162. # [04:26] <axilaris> -2
  163. # [04:26] <axilaris> although the input is in text
  164. # [04:27] <doctrv> that's still positive text, but the number is negative ;)
  165. # [04:27] <axilaris> i want to treat it as number
  166. # [04:27] <doctrv> whats wrong with using type=number
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  168. # [04:27] <axilaris> reason is just for uniformity in my form for backend processing
  169. # [04:28] <axilaris> i dont want the server to crash... if it doesnt detect a number
  170. # [04:28] <axilaris> so i treat all as strings
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  172. # [04:28] <axilaris> but anyway there is validation at the backend
  173. # [04:28] <doctrv> ah, okay. Your server seems very unstable then. Could you use JS to convert the number to a string?
  174. # [04:28] <axilaris> so it wont crash
  175. # [04:28] <axilaris> but will fail
  176. # [04:29] <axilaris> yes... but im just thinking of just doing validation
  177. # [04:29] <axilaris> much more easier if done that way
  178. # [04:30] <doctrv> agreed
  179. # [04:30] <axilaris> any good idea for a pattern to match more than 0
  180. # [04:30] <axilaris> ? :)
  181. # [04:31] <axilaris> i'll do a stackoverflow for that
  182. # [04:32] <doctrv> i hate regex, sorry
  183. # [04:32] <doctrv> and by hate, i mean i don't know it
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  185. # [04:34] <axilaris> me too
  186. # [04:34] <axilaris> here might be the answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16883549/html-5-number-regular-expression
  187. # [04:34] <axilaris> just need to verify it
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  189. # [04:37] <axilaris> ok but so far it doesnt handle more specific range
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  279. # [08:12] <kanupatar> may i know, whether windows embedded automotive 7 support html5?
  280. # [08:12] <kanupatar> I can see like "A wider selection of middleware components. These include Windows® Internet Explorer® and Windows Media® technology, required for the development of an automotive multimedia system "
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  282. # [08:13] <kanupatar> whether this mean it has html5?
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  286. # [08:20] <kanupatar> features: Internet Explorer 7, panning/zooming, customizable XAML UI, TAB browsing
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  364. # [10:24] <Nico___> Hello :)
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  368. # [10:26] <Nico___> I am using HTML5 and JQuery Mobile to develope an app for Iphone. "I use it because of the layout", How can I access a database, so I can ex, make a login on the index page?
  369. # [10:27] <Nico___> to SQLite, MySQL or Oracle DB
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  405. # [11:12] <ravigehlot> Why isn't these radio buttons clickable? http://staging.recruitpreps.com/member/membership
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  631. # [16:10] <zagaza> is the nav tag <nav> outside the document flow?
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  633. # [16:11] <gordian> how can i use one set of radio buttons each for a different submit button with a different action?
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  635. # [16:12] <gordian> …and is it possible without JS trickery?
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  637. # [16:13] <gordian> because right now i have the radio buttons inside of one form, then another form below it and i'm using JS to detect the radio button value of the first form to populate the submit value of the form below it
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  645. # [16:18] <gordian> http://pastebin.com/12WTVPZ5
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  732. # [17:31] <krizoek> is it possible to add multiple columns in indexeddb?
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  743. # [17:42] <molgrum> hi, i googled around how to block browsers that don't support html5 but found no good solution
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  747. # [17:44] <molgrum> also css3 maybe i should mention
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  750. # [17:48] <krizoek> php, javascript. both can tell the name of the useragent
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  752. # [17:48] <doctrv> molgrum: not a good idea to block them. Use graceful degradation if they don't support a feature you use
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  754. # [17:50] <krizoek> could send a "warning, virus. upgrade for browser needed"
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  756. # [17:51] <doctrv> And then provide a link to a fake web browser with a virus in it. Oh the irony...
  757. # [17:51] <krizoek> hehe
  758. # [17:51] <Blinky_> Hi guys, I have a problem with some images. On this site "codeclub.host56.com" I have Facebook and Twitter buttons in the upper right corner. They show up in Chrome but nothing is showing in Firefox. Could someone have a quick look and let me know what I am doing wrong please. I am a very new coder so please be nice :)
  759. # [17:51] <doctrv> s/irony/normal phishing attempt
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  772. # [17:56] <anchnk> Blinky_ it works on FF here which version of FF are you using ?
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  776. # [17:58] <Blinky_> Just had a look and released I am running Waterfox. Will download normal Firefox now, however, I would not have thought that would cause an issue.
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  783. # [18:01] <anchnk> lol
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  785. # [18:02] <Blinky_> Ok so I have just downloaded and installed the latest version of FF and I still dont see the images?
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  790. # [18:04] <Caiters> Blinky_: i see them in FF also
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  793. # [18:06] <anchnk> Blinky_ http://tinypic.com/r/2a6nqyb/8
  794. # [18:06] <Blinky_> That is strange. I have tried both the online server and a local Wamp server and cant see them in either. Using Chrome is fine but both Fire and Waterfox dont see it. Nevermind if you lot can see it then it works, cheers anyhow
  795. # [18:07] <anchnk> which version of FF are you using on which OS ?
  796. # [18:07] <Blinky_> FF v28 on Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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  799. # [18:08] <anchnk> i'm using the same setup should work
  800. # [18:08] <Blinky_> Strange.
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  804. # [18:09] <Blinky_> Just tried it on my Netbook using FF and the same, cant see those images, see everything else but those
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  808. # [18:10] <anchnk> you saw on my screenshot ? is that those two icons in the upper right you are talking about ?
  809. # [18:10] <Blinky_> Yep
  810. # [18:11] <Blinky_> If I inspect the element using the browser then the placeholder for it is there but not the images
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  814. # [18:12] <anchnk> do you see the requests for the images in your dev toolbar ?
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  817. # [18:14] <Blinky_> dev toolbar?
  818. # [18:15] <anchnk> ctrl+ shift + Q
  819. # [18:15] <anchnk> on FF
  820. # [18:15] <anchnk> then reload page and filters for images
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  823. # [18:17] <Blinky_> ha, no it doesnt load the images
  824. # [18:17] <Blinky_> neither the facebook or twitter images are loaded
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  826. # [18:18] <anchnk> are you testing the local or remote version
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  828. # [18:19] <Blinky_> Just tried both and neither is calling the images
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  837. # [18:24] <anchnk> it's weird
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  839. # [18:24] <anchnk> tried to do ctrl + shift + r to reload the page ?
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  842. # [18:26] <Blinky_> Just tried, same again. I have a strange little copy of FF :)
  843. # [18:26] <anchnk> strange little copy of FF ?
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  847. # [18:28] <Blinky_> I have a copy that seems to not want to display my images, doesnt like me
  848. # [18:29] <anchnk> are you using the official FF 28 release ?
  849. # [18:29] <Blinky_> Yes
  850. # [18:30] <Blinky_> Just downloaded and install the latest, also have Waterfox running and Chrome
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  852. # [18:30] <anchnk> it should work then
  853. # [18:32] <Blinky_> Yeah, I dont understand it, It would be better if the fil
  854. # [18:32] <Blinky_> oops
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  856. # [18:32] <Blinky_> if the images where downloaded to the browser and not displayed, but they are not even downloaded
  857. # [18:33] <Blinky_> The strange bit is that the other images are downloaded to my browser and they are tagged the same way.
  858. # [18:33] <anchnk> send screenshots of the network panel with all the request please
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  872. # [18:41] <Blinky_> Hi I'm back, bloody connection dropped
  873. # [18:41] <Blinky_> http://tinypic.com/r/33abhue/8
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  882. # [18:49] <anchnk> the screenshot is from your local server or remote one ?
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  889. # [18:52] <anchnk> i got 19 requests you got 16 so yes 3 are missing
  890. # [18:53] <Blinky_> Thats the server not local
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  894. # [18:56] <anchnk> and you got the problem on two computers on the same network ?
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  896. # [18:57] <Blinky_> Yeah but only those two images, Facebook and Twitter, everything else is good.
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  902. # [18:58] <anchnk> http://codeclub.host56.com/images/facebook.png does it works ?
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  905. # [19:00] <Blinky_> yes
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  908. # [19:03] <anchnk> if you update the src attribute of the image element to that absolute path does it works ?
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  917. # [19:06] <Blinky_> do you mean using "c:/wamp/www/images/facebook.png"?
  918. # [19:06] <Blinky_> if so then still not working
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  920. # [19:06] <Ms2ger> Are you trying to load a website from your local file system?
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  925. # [19:09] <Blinky_> No I have a wamp server running and am hosting the site online.
  926. # [19:10] <anchnk> if you stop the local server and try to go on the remote one ?
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  930. # [19:12] <Blinky_> if I load the online site into FF the images still do not load. I have also tried using FF on my netbook and that is not running a local server and the images still dont load.
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  933. # [19:13] <anchnk> update the src attribute to http://codeclub.host56.com/images/facebook.png and upload to server
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  936. # [19:15] <doctrv> Blinky_: maybe a shot in the dark, but you don't happen to have any adblock or non-tracking addons installed in your FF do you?
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  940. # [19:18] <Blinky_> you my friend are a genius, didnt even think about it and as soon as I killed that the images appeared, cant bloody believe it.
  941. # [19:19] <Blinky_> anchnk: cheers for all your help mate, sorry it's ended like this :)
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  944. # [19:20] <doctrv> heh. I thought it was when i saw that you got less requests than anchnk. Normally, that means something is blocking the requests client side
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  947. # [19:22] <Blinky_> Cant believe I didnt think of that, been trying to work that out for days now.
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  965. # [19:47] <kibibyte> hi
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  967. # [19:48] <kibibyte> what web storage should i use to ?
  968. # [19:48] <kibibyte> for android and desktop
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  970. # [19:49] <anchnk_> what kind of data do you wanna store?
  971. # [19:51] <kibibyte> some text data when device is offline , after its onlline i wantr to sync it
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  973. # [19:51] <kibibyte> and i need also make my web app aviable offline
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  976. # [19:52] <kibibyte> i mean when theres no network it shoould read html, css , js from local cache
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  980. # [19:54] <kibibyte> ??
  981. # [19:54] <anchnk_> well app cache and localstorage can be a solution
  982. # [19:55] <kibibyte> and what about indexedDB?
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  984. # [19:58] <anchnk_> http://caniuse.com/indexeddb
  985. # [19:58] <anchnk_> depends of your target device and the structure of your data
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  987. # [19:59] <kibibyte> hm
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  989. # [20:00] <anchnk_> only android kitkat supports it so if you need android support
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  1121. # [22:00] <pablovilas> Hello everyone, I've have a question. I know that have a form inside a form is forbidden, but... What could happen? What's inconsistences may appear?
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  1123. # [22:01] <doctrv> pablovilas: try it and find out!
  1124. # [22:02] <hober> pablovilas: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?%3C!DOCTYPE%20html%3E%0A%3Cform%3E%0A%3Cp%3Ehi%0A%3Cform%3E%0A%3Cp%3Ethere%0A%3C%2Fform%3E%0A%3Cp%3Eperson%0A%3C%2Fform%3E%0A%3Cp%3Efrom%20irc
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  1131. # [22:06] <pablovilas> @hober so some elements in the DOM remains attached to body instead of the nested form?
  1132. # [22:07] <hober> no, there *is no nested form* in the parsed tree
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  1134. # [22:08] <pablovilas> Sorry, I understand. Actually in Firefox works but not in Chrome.
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  1161. # [22:42] <Siecje> That's a first
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  1163. # [22:42] <doctrv> Heh
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  1260. # [23:50] <sinclair|work> hey all
  1261. # [23:50] <sinclair|work> so, im fluffing around with file uploads
  1262. # [23:50] <sinclair|work> i have a http endpoint, which accepts raw bytes sent via a standard http post
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  1264. # [23:50] <sinclair|work> so, im trying to work out if its possible to
  1265. # [23:51] <sinclair|work> 1) obtain a files bytes (possibly the File API or FileReader interface)
  1266. # [23:51] <sinclair|work> 2) post those bytes to the server
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  1268. # [23:53] <sinclair|work> note, i do not want to post as "multipart/form-data" or "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
  1269. # [23:53] <sinclair|work> if the request mime type was to be anything, it would be "application/octet-stream"
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  1271. # [23:53] <sinclair|work> can anyone help?
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  1278. # [23:55] <doctrv> What's wrong with multipart/form-data?
  1279. # [23:55] <axilaris> hi... anyone knows a good html5 validation input pattern for price ... like in this format 1.23 ?
  1280. # [23:55] <doctrv> axilaris: regex
  1281. # [23:55] <axilaris> i found this "\d+(\.\d{2})?", didnt work
  1282. # [23:55] <axilaris> http://www.the-art-of-web.com/html/html5-form-validation/
  1283. # [23:55] <axilaris> i dont know ... regex gives me the headache
  1284. # [23:55] <doctrv> Yea me too
  1285. # [23:56] <axilaris> well that regex didnt work
  1286. # [23:56] <axilaris> ah :)
  1287. # [23:56] <axilaris> it was u who said that
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  1289. # [23:56] <doctrv> Heh yea
  1290. # [23:56] <axilaris> same heads... no solution :)
  1291. # [23:56] <sinclair|work> doctrv: i don't want to split multiple files into the same upload
  1292. # [23:57] <axilaris> i'll try others
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  1294. # [23:57] <axilaris> quite a few regex around
  1295. # [23:57] <sinclair|work> doctrv: that is important, as each upload might be uploaded to a different server
  1296. # [23:57] <axilaris> this is a long one ^\\$?(([1-9](\\d*|\\d{0,2}(,\\d{3})*))|0)(\\.\\d{1,2})?$
  1297. # [23:57] <axilaris> its crazy
  1298. # [23:57] <sinclair|work> multipart is kinda crap
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