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- # [00:07] <doctrv> sinclair|work: oh I've always used multipart, but its been simple stuff
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- # [02:03] <gde33> I was wondering is there any element in the head that allows nested tags?
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- # [02:04] <gde33> ( except from <noscript> )
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- # [02:34] <Valduare> hi guys
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- # [02:35] <Valduare> I'm just poking into html5 vs the old way i've been doing things. what is the difference of <section> <header> <footer> etc vs just using div's
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- # [03:10] <doctrv> Valduare: semantics. Those new elements mean different things
- # [03:12] <doctrv> See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5 for a quick overview of the differences
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- # [03:17] <Valduare> ya but what good are those elements?
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- # [03:17] <Valduare> couldn't I achieve the same with a div
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- # [03:38] <doctrv> Valduare: yes you could. its semantics. Its the same reason why you don't use a <p> tag for a title. It would work, but its not what its meant for
- # [03:38] <Valduare> ah ok
- # [03:39] <Valduare> so just visually helps you break up the code to know what your looking at
- # [03:39] <doctrv> Exactly
- # [03:39] <Valduare> darn it- now I gotta go back and rewrite all my existing projects heh
- # [03:39] <doctrv> Plus some search engines look at it too
- # [03:40] <doctrv> Well, its not the end of the world if you don't have them
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- # [03:42] <Valduare> I really need to learn responsive coding
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- # [03:50] <doctrv> There's plenty of tutorials online :)
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- # [14:21] <frojnd> HI there.
- # [14:22] <frojnd> So I was just wondering. Using html5 on mobile device, is it possible to develop app that will work offline and know that user did some stuff and syynchornize with web service when phone gets network connectivity again. Is this possible using html5 and maybe something else?
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- # [14:23] <anchnk> of course it is frojnd
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- # [14:25] <frojnd> anchnk: I'm having hard time finding documentation so I can investigate further more.
- # [14:25] <anchnk> just look at the channel topic
- # [14:25] <anchnk> you have tons of ressources out there
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- # [14:27] <frojnd> Also anchnk is it possible that html5 can communicate with NFC hardware?
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- # [14:28] <anchnk> not natively yet
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- # [14:29] <anchnk> it's in progress but it's possible with hybrid frameworks
- # [14:29] <frojnd> from you point of view is html5 getting a lot of intention in sense of developing apps for mobile devices?
- # [14:29] <frojnd> anchnk: frameworks like phonegap?
- # [14:29] <anchnk> yes or cordova
- # [14:30] <anchnk> frojnd: http://www.w3.org/2012/nfc/web-api/
- # [14:30] <anchnk> still in progress
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- # [14:33] <frojnd> anchnk: is this goind to be dead project or si it going to get popularity from your point of view? I'm deciding to build a mobile app that needs to have offline synchronization and in couple of months also nfc. I was looking at phonegap and couldn't find the answer to my q. If I build mobile app on android with offline support using one of phone gap's plugin
- # [14:33] <frojnd> is all I need to do compile on other mobile devices with same code or do I have to alter code in any way
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- # [14:35] <anchnk> frojnd: for offline synchronisation you can handle it using HTML5 technologies and for NFC for now you can't rely on HTML5 api need to wait so you'll need to use either phonegap or cordova or another framework that will let you access to the device hardware
- # [14:35] <anchnk> i'm pretty sure it's possible with phonegap too
- # [14:36] <anchnk> frojnd: http://phonegap.com/2011/09/26/building-an-nfc-enabled-android-application-with-phonegap/
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- # [14:38] <frojnd> yeah that I found out
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- # [14:38] <anchnk> so you already have your answer
- # [14:39] <frojnd> anchnk: what I don't understand with these framewroks is this: if I build app that has nfc functionality or offline synchronization for a spesific mobile device e.g. android, do I need to alter code on other devices like ios, mobile, blackbarry in order to achieve the same functionality
- # [14:39] <frojnd> note that it's html5 related, but you seem to know a lot of stuff, and because of that I'm askinh you here :)
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- # [14:40] <anchnk> i don't know lot of stuff most people here knows more than i do :)
- # [14:41] <frojnd> eh, you seem pretty well awere of tech in general
- # [14:42] <anchnk> frojnd: http://docs.phonegap.com/en/edge/guide_phonegap-build_index.md.html#Introducing%20PhoneGap%20Build
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- # [14:49] <frojnd> according to this link it's a done deal, you write an app for one mobile phone and put it in the oven (their build machine) and you get apps for different devices
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- # [15:53] <daleharvey> frojnd: I work on a library to do exactly that, pouchdb.com
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- # [16:46] <jonno11> Hi guys. I'm using a local html file as a fronted for a number of locally stored documents. I can't work out how to link to them. Ideally, I want to have an anchor tag, which when clicked will open an excel file. How can I achieve this?
- # [16:47] <jonno11> Currently, doing <a href="/path/to/file.xsl"> just highlights the file in finder rather than executing it
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- # [16:49] <doctrv> jonno11: maybe try the absolute path?
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- # [16:49] <Oun_> <a><button onclick="window.open('file:///C:/Windows/notepad.exe')"><a>
- # [16:51] <jonno11> Oun_: Still just highlights the file in the finder I'm afraid, doesn't execute it... doctrv: The same unfortunately
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- # [16:54] <Oun_> hmmm,
- # [16:54] <Oun_> something funny there
- # [16:54] <jonno11> Oun_: Let me fire windows up and i'll see if it works in there
- # [16:54] <Oun_> <a href="/files/file.xsl" download="file.xsl">
- # [16:54] <Oun_> try that
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- # [16:58] <Oun_> besides this just using a js function. and... im out of ideas. These should work
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- # [17:07] <Oun_> hopefully u know a bit of js
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- # [19:01] <zagaza> cool
The end :)