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  63. # [01:13] <slu9freek> If I have a static page w 1 article in it. Is it necessary to include the article tags?
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  84. # [02:00] <OODavo> So I found a good reason not to be using flex-wrap for my layout question from yesterday.
  85. # [02:01] <OODavo> The layout becomes *exceedingly terrible* if you visit it in a browser that doesn't support flex-wrap, such as for example the most widely installed versions of Firefox.
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  88. # [02:04] <Jrizzlin> In php, I have a function that prints stuff if certain criteria are met. Anyone know if there any way I can check what its printing before displaying it (without using return)?
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  102. # [02:24] <doctrv> slu9freek: not necessary but semantically correct
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  104. # [02:25] <doctrv> OODavo: yes, that's why flex-box isn't used widely yet
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  107. # [02:25] <slu9freek> doctrv: I see, I only wonder because if I include it, the outliner makes the root element 'untitled'
  108. # [02:25] <doctrv> outliner?
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  111. # [02:26] <slu9freek> doctrv: http://gsnedders.html5.org/outliner/
  112. # [02:27] <doctrv> slu9freek: ah, that one. are you using a URL?
  113. # [02:28] <OODavo> doctrv: That makes sense, but I'm pretty much fine with excluding IE so using the flexbox parts that work on major FFs and Chromes is okay. :P
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  115. # [02:32] <slu9freek> doctrv: no, upload or direct input
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  119. # [02:33] <doctrv> could you paste the HTML you are using so I can take a look at it?
  120. # [02:33] <doctrv> in pastebin or something
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  123. # [02:40] <slu9freek> doctrv: https://gist.github.com/dmtucker/9732761
  124. # [02:46] <doctrv> slu9freek: ah, you do not have a header for the <body> section itself
  125. # [02:46] <slu9freek> doctrv: I know, that's why I was debating removing the article tags... but im not sure thats a good idea
  126. # [02:47] <doctrv> slu9freek: you don't have to remove the articles, just put an <h1> with the title of the page
  127. # [02:48] <doctrv> before the first article
  128. # [02:48] <slu9freek> doctrv: Can't really think of anything that belongs there more than the title of the article tbh
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  131. # [02:51] <doctrv> yea, and the <article> tag wasn't really meant to wrap an entire page
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  134. # [02:52] <doctrv> it's more for a blog post, or a comment on that blog post, or something independent like that
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  137. # [02:55] <doctrv> slu9freek: a better way to semantically use <article> would be to wrap the <h1> and <p> elements in each section in <article>
  138. # [02:56] <slu9freek> doctrv: hmm interesting... I'm thinking that, in the future, a second article may be added to the page with info about the authors... then About could be the page header and the title would be something different. then i would use this scheme right?
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  140. # [03:01] <doctrv> yes, you could.
  141. # [03:02] <doctrv> you could also replace all the <section>s you have with <article>s, that would also be fine
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  148. # [03:06] <doctrv> slu9freek: actually i take back the first thing i said about wrapping the <h1> and <p> in <article>. That would create the same problem, because then there is no header for the <section>
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  437. # [10:33] <Hilton> I'm trying to position two canvas tags directly over top of eachother *inside* a scrolling div. The point being to have a large (800x800 to 2000x2000) canvas within a 500x500 box.
  438. # [10:33] <Hilton> But when I assign position: absolute to the canvas tags, they jump outside the parent div. Is there any way to fix this?
  439. # [10:33] <moo-_-> Hilton: position: relative on parent
  440. # [10:33] <moo-_-> Hilton: then position: absolute on children
  441. # [10:33] <moo-_-> should solve the issue
  442. # [10:35] <Hilton> Hey hey hey
  443. # [10:35] <Hilton> You got it.
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  445. # [10:35] <Hilton> Now I just need to program click/drag scrolling (click the canvas and drag it around).
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  489. # [11:13] <frojnd> Any guies on how to develop mobile up using html5/css/javascript that must work primarly offline and knows how to communicate with web service even when it's offline and syncrhonize with web service when it becomes online?
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  492. # [11:14] <frojnd> I did read a few things like not every brwoser supports offline web apps. But mainly browser from windows mobile 8 and up , android 2.1 and up, ious 3.2 and up
  493. # [11:14] <frojnd> also If I'm about to target 3 platforms I'd have to come with a solution of local database, afaik, websql worsk on Android, iOs, blackberry, tihen (but websql is being deprecated as we speak)
  494. # [11:14] <frojnd> and w3c standars are giving support to indexdDEB which currently windows 8 phone and Android 4.4 has support
  495. # [11:15] <frojnd> There is also a solution, an adapter for IndexedDB-WebSql: indexedDB Shim
  496. # [11:15] <frojnd> what should I use for offline synchronization and syncronization with web service when phone gets connection?
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  521. # [12:03] <moo-_-> frojnd: I have one related article
  522. # [12:04] <sash87> Hey anybody over here worked on SVG..
  523. # [12:04] <sash87> I am badly stuck at some point and need some help
  524. # [12:05] <moo-_-> frojnd: http://engineering.linkedin.com/mobile/linkedin-ipad-using-local-storage-snappy-mobile-apps
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  527. # [12:06] <sash87> http://jsfiddle.net/H58qU/ ... this I need to do using SVG
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  530. # [12:08] <frojnd> moo-_-: thanx, I'll read it
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  693. # [16:46] <repxl> Making Checkboxes Behave like Radio Buttons is there any attribute in html 5 that it will do this ?
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  699. # [16:52] <repxl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
  700. # [16:52] <repxl> Making Checkboxes Behave like Radio Buttons is there any attribute in html 5 that it will do this ?
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  723. # [17:14] <doctrv> repxl: Radio buttons allow the user to choose either 0 or 1 options. Checkboxes allow for multiple selections. Which do you want?
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  725. # [17:15] <repxl> doctrv a mix of them :D , checkboxes can be unselected , radio cannot be unselected once you click it stays you can just switch between other radios.
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  727. # [17:18] <doctrv> okay, so then you can either: a) use radios and tell your user to not check any box if applicable, b) use checkboxes and tell the user to only choose one, or c) use JS
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  729. # [17:18] <doctrv> in a and b you would use validation to ensure that they did the right thing
  730. # [17:20] <doctrv> or d) use radios and have a "none" option
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  739. # [17:29] <repxl> doctrv allright i will go for b) and check the input on the php side
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