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  81. # [01:55] <TerranceWarrior> is it possible to deliver a server, install it locally at the users machine and extract data from it on his html5 client?
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  83. # [02:04] <jerryitt> TerranceWarrior: not quite sure what your trying to do
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  113. # [02:30] <__joshua__> TerranceWarrior: yes
  114. # [02:33] <__joshua__> TerranceWarrior, for instance, if you have python installed, python -m SimpleHTTPServer will start serving static files from your current directory
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  118. # [02:40] <TerranceWarrior> __joshua__: good point
  119. # [02:40] <TerranceWarrior> thanks. forgot how simple webservers are.
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  121. # [02:41] <TerranceWarrior> i wanted to do it from c++ but I may want to make an exception due to cross platform.
  122. # [02:42] <TerranceWarrior> kinda defeats the purpose of using the browser.
  123. # [02:42] <TerranceWarrior> so i may not do it.
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  126. # [02:51] <__joshua__> TerranceWarrior: do you need any server at all? can you get away with just a single html file with baked in js, use localstorage for persistance and the file reader api to read stuff?
  127. # [02:52] <TerranceWarrior> the filereader api is limited to one file at time. or at most one directory. not far reaching enough.
  128. # [02:52] <TerranceWarrior> but hm, if it's such a small file maybe it might work.
  129. # [02:53] <TerranceWarrior> what's nice is it's small in any language.
  130. # [02:53] <TerranceWarrior> or platform
  131. # [02:53] <__joshua__> one file? where did you read that?
  132. # [02:53] <TerranceWarrior> filereader api.
  133. # [02:56] <TerranceWarrior> __joshua__: can you tell me if your password is CPE1704TKS?
  134. # [02:56] <__joshua__> what
  135. # [02:56] <TerranceWarrior> hahah, Wargames the movie reference.
  136. # [02:56] <TerranceWarrior> ll
  137. # [02:56] <TerranceWarrior> lol
  138. # [02:56] <TerranceWarrior> lost on young ears.
  139. # [02:56] <TerranceWarrior> :)
  140. # [02:56] <__joshua__> heh, its been 20 years since ive seen it
  141. # [02:57] <__joshua__> but, you can read many files. the only limitation is that the user must select them
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  145. # [02:59] <TerranceWarrior> __joshua__: yeah. i'd like to focus on iphones and ipads, android, would c++ cover all the major platforms?
  146. # [02:59] <TerranceWarrior> i am thinking yes to this, just details on things like slashes have to be considered.
  147. # [03:00] <__joshua__> slashes?
  148. # [03:00] <TerranceWarrior> yeah, like from Guns and Roses.
  149. # [03:01] <TerranceWarrior> Slashes Slashes.
  150. # [03:01] <__joshua__> it really depends on what you are doing. i might be able to share some code between the iOS and ndk android versions, but different to guess apriori on how much
  151. # [03:01] <TerranceWarrior> right
  152. # [03:02] <TerranceWarrior> but of course
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  154. # [03:02] <__joshua__> if you use a heavy build platform it can do most the work for you
  155. # [03:02] <__joshua__> most of them that I have seen use js
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  157. # [03:04] <TerranceWarrior> the only problem is, i open up the user's file system. i could be liable.
  158. # [03:07] <TerranceWarrior> maybe ssl it
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  167. # [03:19] <relipse> ok who wants to recreate a bomberman game like http://bombermine.com/#/play/
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  874. # [18:16] <Da|wo> anyone up for a quick help ?
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  876. # [18:17] <iDaniel> Da|wo: if i can help maybe yes...
  877. # [18:17] <Da|wo> iDaniel: cool thanks
  878. # [18:18] <iDaniel> Da|wo: what's your problem?
  879. # [18:18] <Da|wo> it should be pretty simple to any advanced user
  880. # [18:18] <iDaniel> Da|wo: mmm idk if i am advanced but go on asking
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  883. # [18:18] <Da|wo> on my site , I have this page where is display only a full plainscreen swf (flash video)
  884. # [18:19] <iDaniel> Da|wo: yes
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  886. # [18:19] <iDaniel> (not really html5 but ok....)
  887. # [18:19] <Da|wo> no its not
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  889. # [18:19] <Da|wo> well mayb, thats part I don't know yet
  890. # [18:20] <iDaniel> mmm but what's your problem now?
  891. # [18:20] <Da|wo> and to be honnest , I would have preferred this swf to be force-runned in html5 but anyway
  892. # [18:20] <Da|wo> actually its more a featuer I',d like to add rather than a problem itself
  893. # [18:20] <iDaniel> ok
  894. # [18:20] <Da|wo> I'd like that swf file to be randomly picked
  895. # [18:20] <Da|wo> from all those I have in my directory
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  897. # [18:21] <Da|wo> instead of playing the same one each time
  898. # [18:21] <iDaniel> Da|wo: mmmm k
  899. # [18:21] <iDaniel> Da|wo: but each swf plays one video?
  900. # [18:21] <Da|wo> is there any kind of javascript for that ?
  901. # [18:21] <Da|wo> yes
  902. # [18:21] <iDaniel> Da|wo: mmm write one...
  903. # [18:21] <iDaniel> brb
  904. # [18:21] <Da|wo> well look
  905. # [18:21] <Da|wo> (pm)
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  929. # [18:59] <reddeth> I'm trying to setup a CSS selector to grab all file input elements with the form-control class. So far input.form-control works, but I'd like it to specifically grab input tags that have type="file"
  930. # [19:01] <reddeth> Actually scratch that, I found it. Should have done more Googling :P It was input[type=file].form-control
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  987. # [20:14] <jonascj> Hi all. What is the current method for streaming a webcame to a webpage? I am willing to use almost anything as backend, but what about frontend. Is it the <video> tag of HTML5, is it java script node.js or what is it?
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  990. # [20:16] <jonascj> I think the answer is not <video> because I've seen posts around the inernet that says it is not meant for streaming, but for playback of fixed length videos
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  992. # [20:16] <kenetik> jonascj: A lot depends on the source operating system, what OS is the streaming cam using>?
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  995. # [20:17] <Da|wo> Just wanna say a public Thanks to iDaniel, who just gave me some of his time to help
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  997. # [20:17] <iDaniel> public thanks :D
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  999. # [20:18] <iDaniel> the result was http://berlin.blogg.natur-kultur.eu/data/player.zip
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  1001. # [20:18] <jonascj> kenetik: Atm I am experimenting with running ffserver (from the ffmpeg project) which is being fed by ffmpeg running on the (linux) machine hosting the webcam.
  1002. # [20:19] <jonascj> kenetik: so in the end I just have whatever avilable via http: an mp4 stream, swf stream, ogg stream, mjpeg, ra, asf or whatever the heart desires
  1003. # [20:20] <Da|wo> yea I think you deserve some man
  1004. # [20:20] <Da|wo> time is not free. you helped me for free
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  1006. # [20:20] <jonascj> kenetik: so one could say the my question rather is: "I have an stream (mp4, swf, ogg or whatever) available via HTTP, how do I display it in an webbrowser so a maximum number of people can view it (i.e. no mac/safari only solution)
  1007. # [20:20] <Da|wo> thats nice of you
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  1010. # [20:23] <kenetik> jonascj: https://github.com/videojs << I recommend that.
  1011. # [20:24] <jonascj> kenetik: okay, so it is javascript these days :)
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  1013. # [20:24] <kenetik> Yup.
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  1017. # [20:31] <jonascj> kenetik: hmm, it seems to rely on something applespecific or flash fallback. HLS is supposedly an open specification, but some say it is only working in i/os safari
  1018. # [20:33] <kenetik> Yah it has a 'flash fallback' for anyone that doesn't have a 'current browser'.
  1019. # [20:35] <jonascj> kenetik: the site itself does not mention streaming, rather just playback. The posts I've found around seems to say that streaming is beta, implemented in flash or similar
  1020. # [20:35] <jonascj> but I'll read more about it, thank you
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  1034. # [20:47] <dahlfors_> jonascj: for live streaming, flash is currently a better solution
  1035. # [20:47] <dahlfors_> but you need fallback for mobiles
  1036. # [20:48] <dahlfors_> or the other way around. depends on what's more important for you
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  1039. # [20:50] <dahlfors_> jonascj: I work at a live video streaming company, http://bambuser.com/ - we transcode & deliver live streams to our html5 video embed - which uses flash where that's supported, and otherwise uses html5 video
  1040. # [20:52] <dahlfors_> for live video it's quite a hassle to support as many platforms as possible. Had I needed a livestream from any source to mobile & desktop browsers myself, I would most of the time pick a service that can do the transcoding and fallback embeds for me instead of reinventing the wheel
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  1065. # [21:12] <jonascj> dahlfors_: I just saw someone viewing a webcame connected to a windows PC by looking at the bundled webcam software through teamviewer. That made me almost angry and I thought to my self that I must be able to capture the webcam using ffmpeg and then present it in a browser with relative ease.
  1066. # [21:13] <jonascj> but the playback in the browser seems to be harder than i thought.
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  1184. # [23:15] <Da|wo> question for you guys
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  1188. # [23:16] <Da|wo> I'm looking for an html5 player to play mp4 files on my site, but those mp4 file are generated (and randomly named) automatically.
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  1190. # [23:17] <__joshua__> whats the question?
  1191. # [23:17] <Da|wo> I wondered which html5 player script would work with such a naming pattern (where I can't know the video file name before it being generated)
  1192. # [23:18] <__joshua__> all of them?
  1193. # [23:18] <Da|wo> ok
  1194. # [23:18] <moo-_-> Da|wo: I think here "which" implies to learn sufficient javascript skills to make such integration yourself. You are asking a feature of very narrow use-case and it is very unlikely anybody would have done it for you.
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  1196. # [23:19] <__joshua__> not knowing the name of the file before embedding hte player is a completely normal and common thing. you will not have issues.
  1197. # [23:19] <Da|wo> ok thanks
  1198. # [23:19] <daraand> Hi everyone, I've a fiddle that I need some help with.
  1199. # [23:20] <daraand> It works nicely in everything except Firefox, anyone have a moment for some jQuery help :D?
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  1201. # [23:21] <__joshua__> sure
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  1203. # [23:23] <daraand> http://jsfiddle.net/daraand/gdZtF/1/ <- this works fine in Chrome but doesn't work in Firefox because I need a video/ogg. I am not that great at jQuery, but I was able to find a way to change the video src=; my question is, how can I can multiple video sources?
  1204. # [23:24] <daraand> So onMouseover, how can I change both the video/mp4 and video/ogg source?
  1205. # [23:26] <__joshua__> well you are changing the source of the #video element to the hover events target' src
  1206. # [23:26] <__joshua__> and a video can only have one source
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  1208. # [23:27] <__joshua__> lemme check docs
  1209. # [23:27] <daraand> Correct, but it can have fallbacks I thought, different MIME depending on what is supported
  1210. # [23:28] <__joshua__> perhaps rathet than change source (you shouldnt do this) you should control play/pause with mouse events
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  1212. # [23:29] <daraand> Well they will be completely different videos; I do need a way of changing the video on a mouseover
  1213. # [23:29] <__joshua__> then you should have multiple video elements
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  1215. # [23:30] <daraand> Hmm, I don't completely follow, it'll be the same spot in someone's web browser, just a different video depending on what image they hover over
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  1218. # [23:32] <daraand> If there's a better way to do it, I'm all ears :D
  1219. # [23:32] <__joshua__> you have 2 choices. first is to change every $('#video source').attr('src..... I don't think this is a good idea
  1220. # [23:33] <__joshua__> the other way is to make all separate video element for every video you have, and show/hide and play based on external events
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  1224. # [23:36] <__joshua__> if your videos are big, you should do the first option
  1225. # [23:36] <__joshua__> if they are small and you want them to respond fast, the 2nd is better
  1226. # [23:37] <__joshua__> but the first option is also tricky, and you will have to data-format="ogg" etc each 'src' element, do you have change it, or you could replace the html of each video el with the full sources list
  1227. # [23:37] <daraand> They are definitely small, well, about 150kb is my goal
  1228. # [23:38] <__joshua__> and how many?
  1229. # [23:38] <daraand> 5
  1230. # [23:38] <daraand> there will be 5 options to hover over ultimately.
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  1232. # [23:38] <daraand> and they will loop as long as you're over the option
  1233. # [23:39] <__joshua__> i would embed all the videos at the beginning. hide all/all but one
  1234. # [23:39] <__joshua__> then your javascript is only a couple of lines
  1235. # [23:39] <daraand> So each video element is {display:none;} in CSS?
  1236. # [23:40] <__joshua__> yeah
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  1238. # [23:40] <__joshua__> can use .show(), .hide(), or toggle() in jquery
  1239. # [23:40] <daraand> Ok, how would I go about hiding and showing them in jQuery? or I could just do javascript; I'm a bit of a noob at it
  1240. # [23:41] <__joshua__> jquery === javascript
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  1243. # [23:44] <daraand> Would that also help with loading everything?
  1244. # [23:44] <daraand> Another problem I've run into is just waiting for everything to load, but if I did a display:none, then, everything would load even though it isn't visible?
  1245. # [23:45] <__joshua__> something like. $('#my_img2').hover(function(){ $(.video:visible').pause().hide(); $('#'+$(this).data('videoid')).show().play()
  1246. # [23:47] <__joshua__> where your image is called #my_img2, and has an attribute 'data-videoid' which is the id of the video it is to play
  1247. # [23:47] <daraand> Ok I am going to try this :d
  1248. # [23:52] <daraand> #my_img2 refers to the images below right? the 100x100 blocks?
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  1250. # [23:56] <daraand> http://jsfiddle.net/vfbFu/1/
  1251. # [23:56] <daraand> Hmm
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