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  13. # [00:10] <daraand> __joshua__ I don't think my javascript is good enough to understand this :D
  14. # [00:13] <daraand> http://jsfiddle.net/vfbFu/2/
  15. # [00:15] <daraand> I think I'm getting closer? http://jsfiddle.net/daraand/vfbFu/3/
  16. # [00:16] <__joshua__> daraand: lemme have a look
  17. # [00:16] <daraand> try the third fiddle
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  26. # [00:22] <__joshua__> http://jsfiddle.net/vfbFu/5/
  27. # [00:22] <__joshua__> seems to be working
  28. # [00:23] <daraand> Rad; does this load Video two, even though its display:none?
  29. # [00:24] <__joshua__> it does on chrome
  30. # [00:24] <__joshua__> both are loaded
  31. # [00:25] <__joshua__> note: we have to get the actual dom element with [0] to be able to play and pause
  32. # [00:26] <daraand> Oh, I had no idea about that. I'm just starting to learn about DOM
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  35. # [00:31] <daraand> Thank you __joshua__ :)
  36. # [00:31] <__joshua__> no probs
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  77. # [02:05] <daraand> __joshua__ are you familiar with Joomla 3.0 :)?
  78. # [02:05] <__joshua__> afraid not
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  83. # [02:13] <daraand> Np. For some reason it doesn't love $ in jQuery so playing around with it
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  85. # [02:14] <daraand> That's it
  86. # [02:14] <daraand> Have to replace $ with jQuery in joomla modules; not sure why but just a FYI for future
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  92. # [02:27] <__joshua__> try this http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/core-enhancements/performance/jquery-scripts/18327
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  101. # [02:39] <daraand> nice find, I definitely will
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  107. # [02:55] <daraand> __joshua__ sorry to bother you so much; but last question, if I hover off of the thumb, would I use mouseout? to have it go back to the first video?
  108. # [02:55] <__joshua__> $.hover takes 2 functions, in and out
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  110. # [02:56] <__joshua__> in the code i posted, it ignores mouseout, only changes video on new mouseover
  111. # [02:56] <__joshua__> what behaviour do you want?
  112. # [02:57] <daraand> In the code you posted to have it go to video1. I just finished mapping this out, I am going to have 1 main video playing, always, and 5 others that will be videos you can hover over to see
  113. # [02:57] <daraand> So that's 6 total, which I gotta build (the actual videos) too :D
  114. # [02:57] <daraand> (Originally I told ya 5)
  115. # [03:00] <__joshua__> right, so in the mouseout function, which will be the second argument to hover, pause the current playing visible and play the default one
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  123. # [03:11] <daraand> Sweet! I think I did it right: http://jsfiddle.net/daraand/vfbFu/9/
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  128. # [03:18] <daraand> So jsut to reiterate: it will load these videos, even though display none is on?
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  131. # [03:27] <__joshua__> you can check in the network tab
  132. # [03:28] <__joshua__> and on chrome on linux, they load
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  162. # [04:49] <daraand> oh __joshua__ I have one more for you :P
  163. # [04:49] <daraand> If I do not want the video to loop, well I got that much, but, can I make a video go back to the original after it finishes playing?
  164. # [04:49] <daraand> like after vid2 plays, it goes back to vid1
  165. # [04:49] <daraand> regardless of where I am hovering?
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  167. # [04:53] <__joshua__> video.seekable.start();
  168. # [04:54] <__joshua__> oh right, one sec
  169. # [04:55] <__joshua__> the onended event
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  171. # [04:55] <__joshua__> when you start playing the video, do something like. video.onended = function(){ //play original_video };
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  180. # [05:10] <daraand> got it,
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  223. # [06:17] <__joshua__> sure
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  499. # [15:22] <stick__> Hello everyone
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  502. # [15:25] <stick__> Can anyone help ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23245709/vimeo-fullscreen-video-appears-under-the-websites-elements
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  525. # [16:01] <axilla> good morning, i'm working on image captions using figure/figcaption and I'm wondering how to get a caption to retreat on a touch device like a phone. On a pc it reacts to mouse hover but on a touch device you click it once it goes up, but doesn't come down when you click it a second time.
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  528. # [16:03] <axilla> https://gist.github.com/fluffheadsr/11216345
  529. # [16:04] <moo-_-> axilla: a clever user of :hover to trick the browser, but most likely you cannot repeat the same trick on touch devices without using JavaScript
  530. # [16:05] <moo-_-> axilla: the best solution: design your pages so that no touching/hovering allowed for such
  531. # [16:05] <axilla> argh
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  533. # [16:05] <axilla> was worth a shot :)
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  535. # [16:08] <axilla> i love doing what I can with just html5/css3
  536. # [16:08] <axilla> its gotten so powerful and fun!
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  538. # [16:10] <moo-_-> axilla: just wait until you get to webgl :)
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  543. # [16:12] <axilla> fist pumping all week. finally got my first real job as a developer :)
  544. # [16:12] <axilla> i've been an engineer for almost 12 years but on the voice/data side.
  545. # [16:12] <axilla> I havbe been trying to build a portfolio to get myself hired as a developer and finally landed a job working from home taboot :)
  546. # [16:12] <moo-_-> axilla: I always though signal processing is more hardcore :)
  547. # [16:12] <axilla> i enjoy development way more
  548. # [16:13] <axilla> and i had moved into management
  549. # [16:13] <axilla> so i was just a people and paper engineer
  550. # [16:13] <axilla> hated life..
  551. # [16:13] <axilla> wearing a suite and shit.
  552. # [16:13] <axilla> left a fortune 500 company to work for a small development studio :D
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  588. # [17:25] <stick__> Hi guys
  589. # [17:25] <stick__> Can anyone help please ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23245709/vimeo-fullscreen-video-appears-under-the-websites-elements This is really killing me
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  612. # [17:45] <[MiB]> hi
  613. # [17:46] <[MiB]> can i use address tag for contact info of company?
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  618. # [17:50] <stick__> [MiB] yes you can
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  620. # [17:51] <[MiB]> stick__: thx
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  675. # [18:54] <Ansem-> stick__
  676. # [18:54] <Ansem-> Have you tried setting a z-index?
  677. # [18:54] <Ansem-> or, alternatively, are you mis-setting z-index on your elements?
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  684. # [18:59] <stick__> Ansem, I appreciate your answer. I tried (in firebug) to set the iframe z-index, it does not change anything
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  689. # [19:01] <stick__> Ansem, anyway the webkit engine automatically adds these styles :
  690. # [19:01] <stick__> :-webkit-full-screen {
  691. # [19:01] <stick__> z-index: 2147483647;
  692. # [19:01] <stick__> }
  693. # [19:03] <stick__> In firefox the bug is even worse : the video cannot play in my site ("video can’t be played with your current setup") whereas it plays fine in a new window
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  749. # [20:13] <groutxo> I'd like to use a webgl fallback without too much intrusion and easy to use, is this ok? https://github.com/gameclosure/webgl-2d repost
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  772. # [20:41] <Mahjongg> Hi, is it possible to copy some other text rather than the highlighted text?
  773. # [20:42] <Mahjongg> I'd like to show a snippet of a long path but copy the whole path...
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  775. # [20:43] <marc_v92> Mahjongg: Someone will have to confirm this, but I believe the only way you'll be able to do that will be with Flash. I imagine it would be a security issue if the clipboard could copy something other than what the user has selected.
  776. # [20:43] <marc_v92> Mahjongg: But again, I could be mistaken. I would wait for confirmation from someone else. :)
  777. # [20:43] <Mahjongg> any suggestions as to UX level suggestion is also welcome
  778. # [20:44] <Mahjongg> I am sure you people have better solutions
  779. # [20:44] <Mahjongg> Maybe click on a button and get the path into copy buffer?
  780. # [20:45] <Mahjongg> is that platform independent?
  781. # [20:45] <moo-_-> groutxo: check three.js project
  782. # [20:45] <moo-_-> groutxo: it has canvas 2d renderer fallback
  783. # [20:45] <moo-_-> which is very shitty
  784. # [20:45] <moo-_-> groutxo: imho if you are doing complex 3d provide fallback like videos or just images
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  788. # [20:45] <moo-_-> for Apple and Microsoft users
  789. # [20:45] <groutxo> moo-_-, I just want canvas for 2D
  790. # [20:46] <groutxo> that's because I thought on that lib
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  792. # [20:46] <groutxo> moo-_-, do you think it's worth to work with just webgl and make my own framework to play with just 2D stuff?
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  794. # [20:46] <groutxo> shaders is a great plus
  795. # [20:46] <moo-_-> groutxo: doing your framework is always the last option
  796. # [20:47] <moo-_-> groutxo: try some existing engines / game libs
  797. # [20:47] <groutxo> moo-_-, that's what I thought
  798. # [20:47] <groutxo> well, I want to keep my architecture, I just want to switch the rendering
  799. # [20:47] <groutxo> at least for this game
  800. # [20:47] <moo-_-> groutxo: what kind of interactivity you are looking for
  801. # [20:47] <moo-_-> sprites?
  802. # [20:47] <groutxo> moo-_-, yes
  803. # [20:47] <groutxo> but spritesheets would be welcome, anyway I did it a thousand times, so I can work them on my own
  804. # [20:48] <groutxo> if I'm able to render a subrect of a texture, I'm kinda happy
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  806. # [20:49] <moo-_-> groutxo: a second
  807. # [20:49] <moo-_-> https://github.com/bebraw/jswiki/wiki/Game-Engines
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  809. # [20:49] <moo-_-> ok that was 5 seconds, but that link is your bible in this case
  810. # [20:51] <groutxo> errr, I want something simpler
  811. # [20:51] <groutxo> I'll stay with my own scene managing and stuff, I just need rendering, I think I'll stick with the first one if using a completly game engine is the other option
  812. # [20:51] <groutxo> for sure I'll watch them for the next project, by the way
  813. # [20:52] <moo-_-> groutxo: got it
  814. # [20:52] <groutxo> it was a big mistake, but I can do what I planned on my own, and I have work done with my own organisation
  815. # [20:52] <moo-_-> groutxo: I would just pick some of the engines and use the rendering part
  816. # [20:52] <moo-_-> I'll try to find you some examples with webgl + canvas fallback on IE
  817. # [20:52] <groutxo> moo-_-, hmmmm, nice that one, I'll check
  818. # [20:52] <moo-_-> I saw some cool demos
  819. # [20:52] <groutxo> moo-_-, thank you really!!
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  821. # [20:52] <moo-_-> but the name of this engine is slipping from my mind
  822. # [20:53] <moo-_-> I was even on their IRC channel for long time
  823. # [20:53] <moo-_-> let me dig through my RSS reader feeds
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  826. # [20:54] <groutxo> pixijs?
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  828. # [20:54] <groutxo> nah, it can't be that, you'll know
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  830. # [20:55] <moo-_-> nope
  831. # [20:55] <moo-_-> ok this is one, but I am quite sure this was not the webgl > canvas engine http://impactjs.com/
  832. # [20:55] <moo-_-> impactjs is 99 USD for commercial but worth of every penny I have heard
  833. # [20:56] <moo-_-> groutxo: here is one high quality article
  834. # [20:56] <moo-_-> http://buildnewgames.com/game-engine-comparison/
  835. # [20:57] <groutxo> huh, yea, I took a look at impactjs, but I don't have the money to pay, other stuff to buy before
  836. # [20:57] <groutxo> moo-_-, thanks for the link
  837. # [20:57] <groutxo> btw
  838. # [20:57] <groutxo> http://html5quintus.com/
  839. # [20:57] <groutxo> this one seems great haha
  840. # [20:57] <groutxo> to make quick stuff
  841. # [21:00] <moo-_-> groutxo: lol
  842. # [21:00] <moo-_-> cool though
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  844. # [21:01] <groutxo> moo-_-, haha yes, maybe for the next project
  845. # [21:01] <groutxo> moo-_-, this is what it says on the wiki about quintus
  846. # [21:01] <moo-_-> groutxo: and if you one day want to release on iOS https://github.com/phoboslab/Ejecta
  847. # [21:01] <groutxo> Easy to learn and fun to use.
  848. # [21:01] <groutxo> is that free?
  849. # [21:01] <groutxo> well, I guess yea
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  851. # [21:02] <moo-_-> having open repo on a github is very good sign :)
  852. # [21:02] <Da|wo> Any particular recommandation for an HTML5 video player script that let us remove all controller from being displayed to visitor ??
  853. # [21:02] <moo-_-> Da|wo: you can do it with <video> element - no "scripts" needed
  854. # [21:02] <moo-_-> Da|wo: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/video
  855. # [21:03] <Da|wo> moo-_-: thanks
  856. # [21:03] <groutxo> Da|wo, html5 rules
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  859. # [21:06] <groutxo> moo-_-, still, that comparison, those are engines, I just want webgl fallback by now
  860. # [21:06] <groutxo> thanks for all the help!
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  862. # [21:08] <moo-_-> groutxo: yeah sorry I cannot find the webgl + canvas fallback thingy anymore
  863. # [21:08] <moo-_-> but I am pretty sure if was one of the listed game engines
  864. # [21:09] <groutxo> err, moo-_-, you mean listed at the last link?
  865. # [21:09] <moo-_-> either
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  878. # [21:26] <shaneolondo> Where can I find some sample enterprise-level web applications, built using html5, css & js
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  881. # [21:27] <marc_v92> shaneolondo: Could you expand on what you mean by "enterprise-level" ? Do you mean an intranet that employees can access?
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  883. # [21:30] <shaneolondo> eg.. like package tracking
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  885. # [21:31] <moo-_-> shaneolondo: sencha.com
  886. # [21:31] <shaneolondo> some of them are mentioned in this guide http://www.html5rocks.com/webappfieldguide/
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  925. # [22:30] <groutxo> moo-_-, I got webgl2d working!
  926. # [22:30] <groutxo> it had a strange issue with colormask, but it runs smoothly by now =)
  927. # [22:32] <estellevw> clarification request: my understanding was that "novalidate" can be on any form field or the form itself, and formnovalidate is only for type=submit and <button>.
  928. # [22:32] <estellevw> However, deeper spec reading seems to indicate that novalidate is on the element's form owner, so is novalidate only valid on <form>?
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  933. # [22:35] <moo-_-> estellevw: ask on the #whatwg and the spec writers may answer
  934. # [22:35] <estellevw> thanks
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  960. # [22:53] <Da|wo> Question: is it required to convert swf files into mp4 in order to work with an html5 player script such as videojs, flowplayer etc... ?
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  964. # [22:55] <Da|wo> because im having hard time getting a descent file size when converting swf into mp4
  965. # [22:55] <Da|wo> and I'm strating to wonder if I even have to ....
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  967. # [22:55] <Da|wo> anyone ?
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  974. # [23:02] <Da|wo> Anyone her
  975. # [23:02] <Da|wo> ?
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  981. # [23:05] <estellevw> Da|wo: I think there may be some libs you could use, but just using the browser <video>, i would assume you need to convert as it doesn't support swf
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  984. # [23:06] <Da|wo> hmm
  985. # [23:06] <Da|wo> estellevw: ok
  986. # [23:06] <Da|wo> estellevw: I'll keep searching
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  989. # [23:09] <Da|wo> how come swf format is so lightweight efficient
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  991. # [23:09] <Da|wo> I mean... look at all those swf here: http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/
  992. # [23:10] <estellevw> because it uses features from the flash player plugin
  993. # [23:10] <Da|wo> converting any of these into html5-friendly format seems hard
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  996. # [23:10] <Da|wo> but i may be totally wrong
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  999. # [23:12] <Da|wo> also, is it normal that my flash player (playing any flash-based file like flv, swf) seems to be much more responsive than any html5 player ?
  1000. # [23:12] <Da|wo> why is that
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