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# [01:50] <estellevw> i am diving into the spellcheck attribute and am wondering if anyone knows of a more recent resource than http://blog.whatwg.org/the-road-to-html-5-spellchecking#compatibility
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# [02:37] <n-iCe> hello!
# [02:37] <n-iCe> I'm creating a site, using an html5 and css template
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# [03:40] <__joshua__> kewl
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# [04:34] <gde33> __joshua__: lol
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# [09:43] <mtahmed> Could someone help me with this: https://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~mtahmed/sandbox/experiments/evolve/
# [09:43] <mtahmed> I am trying to have it animate automatically ... but it only seems to animate on mouse movement ... even though I have no such event setup.
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# [12:03] <fosser_josh> hi guys, can some one help me. how to start video stream in vlc on button click on html page? Basically i wanted to start vlc player(not in html) with streaming video from the given link on button click on html page. Please can some one tell me?
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# [12:27] <fosser_josh> can i open vlc application on button click on html page?
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# [19:58] <luist> hey guys… my search form works when i type and hit enter, but when i press GO (which is a submit button) it doesnt work.. returns no results
# [19:58] <luist> any help? http://paste.ofcode.org/My9tW2f3jPGN36CxTYUb4q
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# [20:52] <dismist> if i want to get a logo into a format where i can make it a character in an imported font on a web page, what all would be involved? and if im only going for one graphic, would svg be a better route?
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# [20:56] <jerrya> SVG is ideal.
# [20:56] <jerrya> using something like http://fontello.com/ , you can easily create and download your own custom webfont using SVG.
# [20:57] <dismist> thanks jerry
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# [20:57] <dismist> awesome resource
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# [20:58] <shred> When we are talking about a full stack developer we are talking about a back end and front end developper but are we talking about a designer too ?
# [20:59] <dismist> never heard the term but these days the division between front end and backend is growing larger to the point where you rarely find someone who is an expert in both, as front-end tends to require more of an artistic eye than that of a programmatic mindset. imho
# [21:00] <petscii> I always tell people I'm not a graphic designer
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# [21:02] <dismist> petscii: in my case i consider myself a front end dev. in regards to not being a graphic designer... i tell folks the same but i still know my way around photoshop really well and i can make decisions as to what looks good without necessarily needing an artist's touch
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# [21:03] <petscii> yeah, I do my best too, but I defer to the artisians
# [21:03] <dismist> most of my work involves turning a psd into an interactive site, so all of the things that are left out of the psd like rollovers and transitions i get to flex my creative muscles a bit on, hopefully without overdoing it ;)
# [21:03] <petscii> we try to work from a style guide though
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# [21:03] <petscii> so there are no surprises at delivery
# [21:04] <petscii> Luckily most times it's simply give me something that looks like this...
# [21:04] <dismist> yep, ever have a designer get pissed at you for a rollover effect he thought really didnt go well with the design? first time i felt the brunt of that i stopped scope creeping!
# [21:05] <petscii> I've wanted to hire a designer, but I've been over ruled, so luckily no
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# [21:05] <petscii> I think most people don't understand that design is hard
# [21:06] <dismist> the challenge for me has always been relaying ot them the possibilities of javascript/css animations in modern browsers and having them communicate an artistic vision for interactivity needed to stay on the cusp of new technology
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# [21:06] <petscii> yeah, we have a portfolio type page where we can test new ideas and use that to show/sell customers
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# [21:07] <petscii> I've had times where the customer and the designer were not on the same page
# [21:07] <dismist> thats why i thought the "flash developer" was always a dynamic and important piece of any development cycle, regardless of whether or not the technology is outdated or unused
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# [21:08] <dismist> designers can be hardheaded when it comes to sacraficing their masterpiece for a client's wishes in my experience
# [21:09] <petscii> I'm actually happy to be rid of tables for page layout. We had to redo a project from scratch because of poor communication with a client back in the day.
# [21:10] <dismist> curious how you sold them on such a project.... from the "seo" standpoint of tables being outdated and archaic?
# [21:10] <dismist> always had trouble with that myself. i hate trying to sell anything remotely related to search engine standings
# [21:10] <petscii> this was pre css, where we had to layout the pages via tables for placement
# [21:10] <petscii> it was a nightmare
# [21:10] <dismist> the good ole days !
# [21:11] <dismist> ;)
# [21:11] <petscii> I was also fairly stupid back then
# [21:12] <dismist> well i would assume you were still ahead of the curve based on the hindsight you're providing... i think we were all pissing in the wind a bit back in those days
# [21:12] <petscii> well, knowing what the customer wants is key in my view
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# [21:12] <petscii> unless you are apple
# [21:13] <petscii> which we are not :)
# [21:13] <petscii> speaking for myself only
# [21:13] <dismist> beauty of the ever evolving web. a solid, professionally done site for a client 10 years ago makes them happy brand-new client today
# [21:14] <petscii> yeah, most of my work is built on older work. I basically let new pclients browse our portfolio and get a feel for what they are getting in advance
# [21:15] <dismist> so did you start out a designer?
# [21:15] <petscii> no, I;m a code monkey
# [21:16] <petscii> basically I steal from others
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# [21:16] <dismist> but you have that ability to communicate with the left and right brainers alike? makings of a good leader :)
# [21:17] <dismist> whats your take on three.js ? (threejs.org)
# [21:18] <dismist> (and the like, im sure there are similar libraries out there)
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# [21:20] <petscii> assuming three.js does not crater an older computer's resources I think it's awesome
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# [21:21] <petscii> I've not done a lot of that kind of stuff though, when I do it's usually starting with SVG and modifying it via javascript
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# [21:22] <shred> sorry i was afk but i know front end and back end but im in no way a design altough im good with paint :P
# [21:23] <shred> ive done some work with three.js
# [21:23] <shred> its really good and easy to jump in
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# [21:23] <luist> hey guys… my search form works when i type and hit enter, but when i press GO (which is a submit button) it doesnt work.. returns no results. any help? http://paste.ofcode.org/My9tW2f3jPGN36CxTYUb4q
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# [21:32] <dismist> line 11: var mod_search=document.getElementById('search-form'); mod_search.submit(); for the onclick attribute instead
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# [21:33] <dismist> or put the button inside the form tag
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# [21:38] <oniMaker> I'm using pattern="phone" with foundation, and I've got a custom regex defined for it
# [21:38] <oniMaker> when it doesn't match, I get the default browser notice "Please match the requested pattern"
# [21:39] <oniMaker> How can I customize that message?
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# [21:41] <dismist> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10361460/how-can-i-change-or-remove-html5-form-validation-default-error-messages
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# [21:42] <oniMaker> looks like the title attribute will do it
# [21:43] <dismist> you sure its not setCustomValidity you're looking ofr?
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# [21:44] <oniMaker> dismist: that might work too, but changing the title attribute makes it part of the message
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# [21:47] <oniMaker> dismist: thank you for showing me :)
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# [21:47] <dismist> bit over my head but i hope the resource helped :)
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# [23:10] <matt____> huhu
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# [23:10] <matt____> hello. Is that a chan where I can find front end developers to give them so called WORK :? :)
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# [23:17] <luist> my form is not submitting when i click “return” on android tablets… any ideas?
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# [23:28] <red_racer12____> hello! does anyone remember that recent link about sidebar / navigation with css various css or html5 tricks, it had 3d effects, slide in effects, etc
# [23:30] <red_racer12____> found it! - http://tympanus.net/Development/SidebarTransitions/
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# [23:48] <luist> my form is not submitting when i click “return” on android tablets, but it works fine with desktop “enter”… any ideas?
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