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  539. # [13:32] <work_> I was viewing this website's source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ... and in firefox the closing head tag is red with the explanation of "Stray end tag "head"", I was wondering why?
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  552. # [13:54] <norbert> work_: one of the elements before </head> possibly hasn't been closed yet?
  553. # [13:54] <work_> cheers norbert!
  554. # [13:55] <norbert> I'm trying to find which one, but http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ is giving lots of errors
  555. # [13:55] <work_> it was funny because i went to the site because it was linked to as an example of HTML5 use. but really it looks like a total mess
  556. # [13:56] <norbert> yes, it's messy
  557. # [13:56] <work_> norbert: is there a 'best site' for learning about html5 tags and their use cases. like nesting nav in header, or using header within sections, stuff like that?
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  560. # [13:57] <work_> i find it weird that http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_doctype.asp just says it 'must be the first thing' but doesnt, at all, explain why
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  563. # [14:01] <norbert> "When omitted, browsers tend to use a different rendering mode that is incompatible with some specifications."
  564. # [14:01] <norbert> you want to make sure the browser immediately knows what is coming up
  565. # [14:02] <work_> I mean, I actually know why its there - but what is the browser actually doing, what is the impact of the doctype, what if its not there, what if theres a typo or is just incorrect for the document
  566. # [14:04] <norbert> depends on the browser, you could look at the Firefox source code
  567. # [14:04] <norbert> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/29.0/
  568. # [14:05] <work_> cheers i shall dig in at some point
  569. # [14:05] <norbert> and
  570. # [14:05] <norbert> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla%27s_DOCTYPE_sniffing
  571. # [14:05] <norbert> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_Quirks_Mode_Behavior
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  574. # [14:08] <norbert> https://hsivonen.fi/doctype/ has a nice table
  575. # [14:09] <norbert> work_: IE8 https://hsivonen.fi/doctype/ie8-mode.png :)
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  577. # [14:10] <work_> norbert thanks, very helpful!
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  623. # [15:49] <jessica_> is html5 geolocation working?
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  783. # [20:05] <IngDev> Does the microsoft web solutions developer - html5 / css module provide extensive coverage of html5 as a language or is it missing important sections?
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  803. # [20:31] <Ansem> Anyone know anything about KineticJS and color matrix?
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