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131. # [02:16] <yaymukund> I have an audio element where I'd like to disallow the user from seeking, but I would like the volume control
132. # [02:17] <yaymukund> right now, I'm disabling the controls and I have an <input type="range"> that sets the volume on('change')
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134. # [02:17] <yaymukund> this is not great, because the volume change only takes effect when the user stops dragging.
135. # [02:18] <yaymukund> is there a way to sync the audio's volume and my <input>? I don't wanna use setInterval or anything like that... :p
136. # [02:19] <yaymukund> OH http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18544890/onchange-event-on-input-type-range-is-not-triggering-in-firefox-while-dragging
137. # [02:19] <yaymukund> heh, I should google better.
138. # [02:19] <dismist> if youve replaced the range element, for the change event to still work as it should you need to make sure every change on your created element is sent to the original range input, not just onmouseup
139. # [02:20] <dismist> so you'll need a mousemove function on your slider that changes the input type=range element's value
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141. # [02:21] <yaymukund> on('input') works well enough, and I think it might be more accessible because not everyone would use a mouse...?
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143. # [02:21] <yaymukund> or that's my understanding at least
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145. # [02:23] <yaymukund> though I don't mean to sound ungrateful. ty for answering
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155. # [02:42] <dismist> what im saying is if you are replacing the control... to do it successfully you need to make sure every event on the new control gets passed to the old one
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159. # [02:43] <dismist> so any event that could change the value of a range input would haveto be passed on
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948. # [21:24] <dontwork> heya
949. # [21:24] <dontwork> so this line of the spec on meta tags: If either name, http-equiv, or itemprop is specified, then the content attribute must also be specified. Otherwise, it must be omitted.
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951. # [21:25] <dontwork> what does that mean... sounds like its saying the content attribute must be either specified or omitted...?
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954. # [21:28] <emerson> dontwork: unless you can think of a 3rd alternative, then yes, that's what it's saying :)
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957. # [21:30] <dontwork> so... basically... use it or dont use it?
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961. # [21:33] <emerson> yes...
962. # [21:33] <emerson> if you use a name, http-equiv, or itemprop meta tag, use it. Otherwise, don't
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992. # [22:18] <dontwork> right i get it - obvious really
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1009. # [22:34] <dontwork> so under what conditions is the charset not UTF8? other languages?
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1016. # [22:37] <emerson> yea, the charset can be any valid character set (windows-1252, iso-8859-1, US-ASCII, etc)
1017. # [22:38] <emerson> it's recommended to use utf-8 though
1018. # [22:38] <dontwork> why s utf reccomended?
1019. # [22:40] <emerson> it basically has every character from every language coded in it, and is (almost) universally recognized
1020. # [22:42] <dontwork> right cool thanks
1021. # [22:42] <emerson> yea no problem
1022. # [22:43] <dontwork> HTML is quite a beast and then you look at some designers portfolio side with HTML followed by 5 stars and its full of divs
1023. # [22:44] <dontwork> emerson: aside from the general <header> <article> elements and stuff what do you use most in HTML5>
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1025. # [22:45] <emerson> dontwork: in terms of the new semantic elements?
1026. # [22:45] <dontwork> emerson: no, apart from those
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1028. # [22:46] <emerson> I don't know what youre asking, i guess
1029. # [22:46] <emerson> i use the normal HTML stuff
1030. # [22:47] <dontwork> i mean for instance stuff like the manifest/appcache... not used to define content
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1032. # [22:48] <emerson> oh, i haven't done much at all with appcache
1033. # [22:49] <dontwork> so if i write HTML it should be within abbr tags?
1034. # [22:49] <emerson> if it's an abbreviation for something, then yes
1035. # [22:50] <dontwork> and if its in the heading of a section of an article it would be within <article><section><header><h1><abbr>
1036. # [22:51] <emerson> yes, but if the only heading element is <h1> then the <header> is optional
1037. # [22:52] <dontwork> do you generally not include headers within other body elements?
1038. # [22:52] <dontwork> brb
1039. # [22:52] <emerson> i do if i need a styling hook.
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