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  55. # [02:11] <daraand> This is an odd question, and I'm a bit new so maybe I don't know the name of the concept, but can I force the browser to NOT download something that is hidden? I have one page that shows different content depending on browser size. For the smaller screens I'd like those browsers to only download what's visible. Is that possible?
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  68. # [02:53] <__joshua__> daraand: yes
  69. # [02:53] <__joshua__> but......
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  71. # [02:54] <__joshua__> it is an image? all images will be download, however, a background-image with display:none will NOT be downloaded
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  73. # [02:55] <daraand> __joshua__ that's actually not a bad idea, I just read about it in stackoverflow. IM going to do that.
  74. # [02:55] <__joshua__> another way to approach the problem is to use a lazy loader.... resources will be stumps, and get replaced by javascript to point to actual resources by events like scroll or resize
  75. # [02:56] <daraand> The downside are I have videos, but the video src isnt specified unless you select a menu option, but that menu option will be hidden on smaller web browsers, so, maybe a small web browser (like a phone) wouldnt download the video?
  76. # [02:56] <__joshua__> if the video tag exists in the dom, the video will be loaded
  77. # [02:56] <__joshua__> no src, means no download
  78. # [02:56] <daraand> ah boo, even if its generated by javascript? well something to think about
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  80. # [02:57] <__joshua__> if the mobile user can't use the menu to set the src, and the source is null to start, they will not download anythning
  81. # [02:57] <daraand> ....
  82. # [02:57] <daraand> Reallllyy
  83. # [02:58] <daraand> Oh I just tested this in firebug,
  84. # [02:58] <daraand> yeah youre right
  85. # [02:58] <__joshua__> well, how could it load somethign without a source
  86. # [02:58] <daraand> Yeah
  87. # [02:58] <daraand> youre right
  88. # [02:58] <daraand> just tested in firebug... I see nothing
  89. # [02:58] <daraand> fancy
  90. # [02:58] <daraand> ok
  91. # [02:58] <daraand> now
  92. # [02:59] <daraand> div with a background-image? thats what I should do?
  93. # [02:59] <daraand> I will try that, it sounds like a good idea
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  95. # [02:59] <__joshua__> its the simpliest solution
  96. # [02:59] <__joshua__> if could use responsive media queries to hide the elements with the bgs on small screens. done.
  97. # [03:00] <daraand> yeah thats exactly what I was going to do
  98. # [03:00] <__joshua__> this is another option: http://www.appelsiini.net/projects/lazyload
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  100. # [03:00] <daraand> cool, Ive never heard of it
  101. # [03:00] <__joshua__> I use this for long lists of expensive to generate images
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  104. # [03:01] <__joshua__> I also show the next 10 or so you can't see, meaning you have to scroll fast to see the loading spinner placeholders
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  106. # [03:04] <daraand> super cool
  107. # [03:04] <daraand> thanks :D!!
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  147. # [04:22] <Rastus_Vernon> Hum…
  148. # [04:22] <Rastus_Vernon> Is it not possible for an element to have more than one identifier?
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  150. # [04:24] <Rastus_Vernon> Agh, generating a table of contents is way too hard even with target-text, target-counter and leaders doing all the work for you.
  151. # [04:25] <Rastus_Vernon> Why do you betray me like this, CSS? You’re great at everything except tables of centents! ☹
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  153. # [04:28] <Rastus_Vernon> Doing this with JavaScript isn’t easy enough and CSS cannot do it all (although it can find the headers and even the page numbers for me automatically only with the ids of the headers)
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  160. # [04:58] <Rastus_Vernon> Ah, it took 30 minutes, but it works.
  161. # [04:59] <Rastus_Vernon> I generated a full table of contents with page numbers, leaders, section numbers and section name, all of this taken automatically by CSS from the document, with only, as code, ol elements containing li elements containing a elements looking like this: <li><a href="#1.1.1"></a></li>
  162. # [05:00] <Rastus_Vernon> I have faith in you again, CSS.
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  255. # [07:57] <brianjaod> any experienced webdevs available that can offer some general advice to a noob webdev, but very experienced programmer?
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  272. # [08:28] <odisa> Hell
  273. # [08:29] <odisa> Hello*
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  275. # [08:30] <odisa> I have to create a KISS webshop within 2 weeks. I did some HTML4 about 7 years ago. Which resource can I use to quickly get up to speed?
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  301. # [08:59] <raspberryfan> why
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  303. # [09:01] <raspberryfan> don't visit http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_intro.asp
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  319. # [09:19] <fird0s1> how to make like this image http://oi57.tinypic.com/2pq5n3q.jpg ?
  320. # [09:20] <fird0s1> that is responsive, i have made like this but i think hard to make that responsive, need many media query i think
  321. # [09:20] <fird0s1> i think better i give web sample http://themenectar.com/demo/salient-frostwave/portfolio-fullwidth-style-2/
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  332. # [09:45] <patsToms> I have seen jquery plugins which is doing something like that
  333. # [09:45] <patsToms> somewhere in Codrops collectives
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  518. # [14:26] <Mement> Hello
  519. # [14:26] <moo-_-> Mement: hi
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  523. # [14:28] <Mement> I'm looking for an efficient way of displaying markers on a map/image. The markers are obtained through a database with Latitude/Longitude. Should I use the Google Maps api for this?
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  525. # [14:29] <moo-_-> Mement: if you are not expert on the topic I suggest sticking on Google Maps as it provides quite novice friendly API
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  527. # [14:30] <Mement> moo-_-: But is my wanted result obtainable through this api?
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  539. # [14:41] <moo-_-> Mement: definitely. integration Google Maps JavaScript APIs to any web application is basic programming exercise.
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  544. # [14:44] <rambotnik_> hi:)
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  546. # [14:45] <rambotnik_> i have problem with my webpage can anybody help?
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  548. # [14:46] <moo-_-> rambotnik_: try narrow down your question to one specific, isolated, issue. Even better if you can make an editable and testable example on jsfiddle.net
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  551. # [14:52] <rambotnik_> I made the webpage using wix website builder, i save all files from site to remove annoynig ads according to the instructions, everything looks same but my title page is twice beneath it, sory for my english
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  783. # [19:36] <Siecje> What is HTML5 going to be finished and out of working draft?
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  787. # [19:43] <emerson> Siecje: according to the W3C, sometime around 01 Sept 2014
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  791. # [19:44] <emerson> there is a recent CR, though
  792. # [19:44] <emerson> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/
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  794. # [19:46] <Siecje> emerson: Thanks.
  795. # [19:47] <emerson> yea no problem
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  800. # [19:49] <Ms2ger> Siecje, now and never
  801. # [19:50] <Siecje> Can't wait for the excuse after "Well the spec is not finalized yet."
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  804. # [19:52] <emerson> yea, is the Living Standard going to just continually be updated and never be 'finalized'?
  805. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> Indeed
  806. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> "Finalized" doesn't mean anything anyway
  807. # [19:52] <emerson> true
  808. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> The closest thing is "out of date" :)
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  812. # [19:56] <emerson> and even then, people will use out of date stuff...
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  815. # [19:59] <Siecje> So why not stop calling it a working draft and call it the current version?
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