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- # [15:44] <nszceta> I am looking for the most up-to-date reference/cheat sheet regarding HTML5/CSS
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- # [15:46] <moo-_-> nszceta: caniuse.com
- # [15:46] <nszceta> Excellent link, thanks moo-_-
- # [15:46] <moo-_-> nszceta: developer.mozilla.org
- # [15:46] <moo-_-> nszceta: np
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- # [16:03] <dahlfors_> caniuse <3
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- # [17:01] <moo-_-> DjMadness: unlikely
- # [17:01] <moo-_-> at least I don't know any browsers doing such thing yet
- # [17:01] <moo-_-> but it would be very, very, nice feature
- # [17:02] <DjMadness> would be nice ye... but i guess it should just be a feature i enable for js enabled users
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- # [18:08] <samcfc> hi there
- # [18:09] <samcfc> I am just beginning to use the FileSystem API, and some time I cant even get the filesystem object, and now I discovered that this API is not supported by W3 anymore??
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- # [20:02] <thoraxe> so, I am having some trouble figuring out how to appropriately use FileReader.readAsArrayBuffer with binary files. I'm trying to use a javascript encryption library to encrypt the stuff that gets pulled in via FileReader, but, for binary files, I am having issues where it's as if the character set of the file gets munged before the file is encrypted
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- # [22:31] <estellevw> I just removed "The disabled attribute is ignored if the value of the type attribute is hidden" from the display attribute on MDN pages. I see that on w3schools, but I didn't see that as "fact" in the spec.
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- # [22:31] <estellevw> Does anyone know if disabled is not supported on input type hidden?
- # [22:31] <estellevw> it submits for me,
- # [22:32] <estellevw> so wondering where this myth started, if it is indeed a myth
- # [22:33] <estellevw> i meant, it doesn't submit for me: when i put disabled on input type hidden, that form control is not in the values submitted with the form
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- # [22:40] <penth> Is there any way to prepend the 'http://' to an input field of type url so that users can just type the fwdn?
- # [22:40] <penth> ^fwdn^fqdn
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- # [22:42] <penth> or do I just have to use a pattern instead?
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- # [22:44] <estellevw> you may want to include inputmode=url and x-inputmode=url, so at least they get the right keyboard on supporting browsers, but don't use input type="url" because then x:// is required
- # [22:45] <estellevw> right now inputmode is not well supported, but hopefully it will be soon.
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- # [22:47] <penth> Handy tip, estelle, but that won't keep a user from submitting something in the wrong format, so I'll have to use a regex pattern as I suspected.
- # [22:48] <estellevw> yes, you will. I use pattern on type="url" to require http://, https:// or ftp:// because any invented protocol validates with url input type
- # [22:48] <penth> No new school prevalidation but at least I'll make life easier for phone users.
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- # [22:49] <penth> Good point. I was still going to have to sanitize on the backend anyhow, but am finally starting to use the new html5 features and seeing what is made easier
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- # [23:43] <thoraxe> so i've narrowed down my issue. I actually think it has to do with the way I'm trying to build the download element with a blob: https://gist.github.com/thoraxe/465b9e1418b6270d5dc6#file-crypt-js-L62 -- somehow extra bytes are getting added to the file after turning it into the blob and downloading it. I am not sure how I should "Correctly" be setting up the download link
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The end :)