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  16. # [00:09] <thoraxe> if I have a javascript string that contains the binary stuff for a file, how would I create a blob to be able to download that file direct from the DOM?
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  21. # [00:10] <thoraxe> the way I'm doing it now it seems to end up the wrong length / screwed up when I take the string and turn it into a blob
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  23. # [00:11] <Slade-> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6455#page-33 <-- not hard to implement, but whats the purpose of websocket masking
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  260. # [03:16] <thoraxe> any thoughts on why creating a Blob/File from a JS binary string might result in incorrect bytes? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23795034/how-to-download-from-dom-creating-a-blob-or-a-file-changes-the-number-of-bytes
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  262. # [03:22] <__joshua___> thoraxe: perhaps base64 at the very beginning and at the very end, so the encryption is only dealing with ascii data
  263. # [03:22] <thoraxe> __joshua___: the issue doesn't occur with the encryption. the issue occurs when I try to take the binary data and put it into a blob/file
  264. # [03:22] <thoraxe> __joshua___: I would have the same issue if I took the content of the binarystring that I read and immediately tried to convert it into a blob/file
  265. # [03:23] <thoraxe> __joshua___: even with no encryption
  266. # [03:23] <__joshua___> ah
  267. # [03:23] <thoraxe> I should probably make a note of that
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  269. # [03:25] <__joshua___> "if I don't use a binary file for the encryption/decryption, everything seems to work fine."
  270. # [03:25] <__joshua___> do don't use a binary file, use a base64 encoded string?
  271. # [03:25] <__joshua___> so*
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  274. # [03:30] <thoraxe> __joshua___: not sure how that changes anything
  275. # [03:30] <thoraxe> __joshua___: how do I take the binary file that I read in and create a base64 encoded string that is save-able as a file?
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  277. # [03:30] <__joshua___> still have that snippet from yesterday?
  278. # [03:31] <thoraxe> readAsBinaryString produces a... binary string... and if I am reading a .gif...
  279. # [03:31] <thoraxe> which one?
  280. # [03:31] <thoraxe> I have many :(
  281. # [03:31] <thoraxe> let's ignore everything I've done so far. Here's the scenario: You have a JavaScript UTF16 string and when you instantiate a Blob or a File from it, it gets munged.
  282. # [03:32] <__joshua___> why not use readAsDataURL
  283. # [03:32] <thoraxe> i believe that's deprecated or something
  284. # [03:32] <__joshua___> ah
  285. # [03:32] <thoraxe> but i have the same problem.
  286. # [03:32] <__joshua___> right
  287. # [03:32] <thoraxe> i was experiencing this issue with ArrayBuffer too
  288. # [03:32] <thoraxe> there's something about the UTF16 string getting put into a Blob/File that mucks it up
  289. # [03:32] <__joshua___> can you reduce it to the most basic case?
  290. # [03:32] <thoraxe> but I can't figure out what
  291. # [03:32] <__joshua___> in a jsfiddle or something.
  292. # [03:32] <thoraxe> um
  293. # [03:32] <thoraxe> yes probably
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  298. # [03:40] <__joshua___> thoraxe: http://jsfiddle.net/GH7pS/1/
  299. # [03:42] <thoraxe> __joshua___: that looks like something I want... but I'm not sure why
  300. # [03:42] <thoraxe> hah
  301. # [03:43] <__joshua___> the trick was massaging the uft16 data to fix in an arraybuffer
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  303. # [03:43] <thoraxe> alright, let me try to modify my code here
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  306. # [03:47] <thoraxe> yeah you lost me
  307. # [03:47] <thoraxe> I'm not sure how to take the arraybuffer that gets read in and... then what?
  308. # [03:48] <thoraxe> you are creating a blob by doing the str2ab and then reading that blob in with a readAsArrayBuffer
  309. # [03:48] <__joshua___> yup
  310. # [03:48] <thoraxe> but I am reading a real file that ends up in an ArrayBuffer
  311. # [03:49] <__joshua___> decoding the utf16 to a sequence of bytes
  312. # [03:49] <thoraxe> or, in my case, reader.result *contains* an arraybuffer
  313. # [03:49] <__joshua___> as in my example
  314. # [03:49] <thoraxe> ab2str(reader.result) just gives me some weirder characters
  315. # [03:49] <thoraxe> do I need to create a blob of ab2str(reader.result) ?
  316. # [03:50] <__joshua___> let me find a gif or something and try it out
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  318. # [03:50] <thoraxe> still the wrong length
  319. # [03:51] <thoraxe> https://gist.github.com/thoraxe/f5ea76de5da298a11b87
  320. # [03:51] <thoraxe> i wish you could attach a file to a gist
  321. # [03:51] <thoraxe> i created a 1pixel gif, that's what I've been using
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  323. # [03:59] <thoraxe> __joshua___: http://jsfiddle.net/6L82t/
  324. # [03:59] <thoraxe> basically you select a file and click the button and it creates a blob from it
  325. # [03:59] <thoraxe> text files blob.size = reader.result.length
  326. # [03:59] <thoraxe> non-text files, no
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  328. # [04:00] <thoraxe> http://jsfiddle.net/6L82t/1/ this one doesn't bother outputting the contents
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  331. # [04:03] <thoraxe> __joshua___: http://www.golivetutor.com/download/spacer.gif
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  337. # [04:09] <__joshua___> thoraxe: perhaps put in it in binary array before the blob, like here http://jsfiddle.net/GH7pS/4/
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  339. # [04:13] <thoraxe> __joshua___: that fiddle doesn't seemt o do anything. is it just informative?
  340. # [04:13] <thoraxe> or do i need to view it with chrome?
  341. # [04:13] <__joshua___> the image there? its pulled as a binary xhr, blob, then encoded as a uri and set to the src of an image
  342. # [04:14] <__joshua___> image*
  343. # [04:14] <thoraxe> oh the image has no background
  344. # [04:15] <thoraxe> alright let me give that a test
  345. # [04:16] <thoraxe> does xhr.open return an arraybuffer?
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  347. # [04:18] <thoraxe> hmm
  348. # [04:18] <thoraxe> that might have worked
  349. # [04:19] <__joshua___> yeah, due to xhr.responseType = "arraybuffer";
  350. # [04:20] <thoraxe> hmm
  351. # [04:21] <thoraxe> ok well, this might work in this context (creating the blob from the uint8array has thes ame length/size)
  352. # [04:21] <thoraxe> so now the question is -- when I *decrypt* the contents, I won't have an arraybuffer, I'll have a binary string
  353. # [04:22] <__joshua___> iwould try passing it to an Uint8Array constructor, see what happens
  354. # [04:22] <thoraxe> yeah gotta figure that out
  355. # [04:23] <thoraxe> i also have to figure out how to *encrypt* an arraybuffer
  356. # [04:23] <thoraxe> although I already know encrypting the binary string works
  357. # [04:23] <thoraxe> let me try something
  358. # [04:24] <thoraxe> the sjcl library doesn't encrypt arraybuffers
  359. # [04:25] <thoraxe> but IIRC cryptojs does
  360. # [04:25] <thoraxe> sec
  361. # [04:26] <thoraxe> oy but then I think I fall back to a different problem I had earlier
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  363. # [04:31] <thoraxe> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13841581/need-sjcl-to-make-the-same-encrypted-aes-256-output-when-the-passphrase-is-the-s this uses an Int32Array but I can't get that to create: var i32a = new Int32Array(reader.result) -> Error: invalid arguments
  364. # [04:35] <thoraxe> __joshua___: passing a binary string to a Uint8Array constructor doesn't work
  365. # [04:37] <thoraxe> i think this is where I need your str2ab and stuff
  366. # [04:39] <thoraxe> __joshua___: that definitely did not work. at least not with uint16
  367. # [04:39] <thoraxe> ok that's enough for one night
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  369. # [04:40] <thoraxe> the issue still remains - how to create a blob/file from a binary string, regardless of whether or not you read in an arraybuffer
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  387. # [04:58] <thoraxe> __joshua___: I'm done for the night. thanks for the help so far. Hopefully someone will poke at it on StackOverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23795034/creating-a-blob-or-a-file-from-javascript-binary-string-changes-the-number-of-by
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  449. # [05:10] <mus1cb0x> any good urls to learn html5? i used html 3 back in the day
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  452. # [05:10] <mus1cb0x> so something more of an overview or technical tutorial would be ideal
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  491. # [06:19] <mus1cb0x> is here or #html the place for chatting with other devs who hand write html/5 ?
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  516. # [07:11] <psyko666> hello
  517. # [07:11] <psyko666> anyone here?
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  519. # [07:13] <mus1cb0x> yea
  520. # [07:13] <mus1cb0x> this chan seems dead tho
  521. # [07:13] <mus1cb0x> #html seems mildly more active
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  529. # [07:31] <psyko666> dude
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  546. # [07:51] <blindCode> Hello al, does <img src=> add quotes automatically in HTML5 or something because I type src="logo.png" and that doesn't work, but if I leave the quotes out, it works...
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  548. # [07:55] <blindCode> I'm so used to quoting src="" but this "bug" is reallly annoying me.
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  551. # [08:02] <blindCode> NVM. n00b error. Had a missing quote elsewhere. -.- Dumbass.
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  604. # [09:23] <dahlfors_> or, notice them far easier at least
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  1169. # [20:20] <bshambaugh> By what mechanism does the computer interpret html5 tags with semantics? (i.e. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/HTML5/HTML5_element_list)
  1170. # [20:22] <marc_v92> bshambaugh: Could you elaborate? Chrome uses Blink, Opera & Safari use Webkit, IE uses the years of devs’ lives lost trying to make things work properly in it.
  1171. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> Opera uses Blink, actually
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  1173. # [20:26] <bshambaugh> Asked another way, how are semantics in <h1>, <h2>, <h3>, <header>, <footer> different in functionality on a nuts and bolts level from OWL?
  1174. # [20:26] <bshambaugh> Here is a link: http://ablognotlimited.com/articles/the-beauty-of-semantic-markup-part-3-headings
  1175. # [20:28] <bshambaugh> Unfortunately, I'm wondering about the ugly stuff underneath that eats devs time.
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  1177. # [20:29] <bshambaugh> <title> ---> translates to a title that displays on the title bar in the browser
  1178. # [20:29] <bshambaugh> <head> --> used before the body
  1179. # [20:30] <bshambaugh> encloses the <title> tag
  1180. # [20:31] <bshambaugh> <head> precedes the body tag...perhaps stylistically? This could be black box tested.
  1181. # [20:32] <bshambaugh> with OWL you have description logics...which you want run a reasoner over to infer facts...and new linkages
  1182. # [20:32] <bshambaugh> <title> might just say to the computer, treat this as the title, and that's all it is
  1183. # [20:33] <bshambaugh> it does not tell you that <title> is different than a <title> of a car
  1184. # [20:33] <bshambaugh> (perhaps)
  1185. # [20:34] <bshambaugh> so it could only tell the computer that when I see a title tag I interpret this as the textt in the top left hand corner of the browser winder
  1186. # [20:35] <bshambaugh> window*
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  1189. # [20:39] <bshambaugh> searching for Blink led me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browser_engine
  1190. # [20:39] <bshambaugh> thanks marc_v92
  1191. # [20:41] <marc_v92> bshambaugh: Sorry for lack of responses, just glancing over IRC in between work at the moment.
  1192. # [20:41] <marc_v92> Glad you found what you needed. :)
  1193. # [20:44] <bshambaugh> thanks marc_v92
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  1281. # [22:22] <hesco> I'm having trouble using this html attribute on a selector field: ; can anyone please advise how to handle this? Thanks.
  1282. # [22:22] <hesco> ing
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  1284. # [22:23] <hesco> pattern => "[^\?]"
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  1289. # [22:24] <__joshua___> what is your attribute?
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  1296. # [22:29] <hesco> the pattern attribute, as shown above.
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  1298. # [22:30] <hesco> __joshua___: ^^^
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  1300. # [22:31] <__joshua___> your attribute is "[^\?]"?
  1301. # [22:32] <hesco> my attribute is patterm, it has that value:
  1302. # [22:33] <__joshua___> hmmm, its that some wierd unicode character or something, im just seeing "it has the value:"
  1303. # [22:33] <hesco> sorry, my question was intended to read: I'm having trouble using this html attribute on a selector field: pattern="[^\?]" ; can anyone please advise how to handle this? Thanks.
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  1308. # [22:41] <jgaviria> anyone having ie11 show a blank page?
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  1310. # [22:41] <__joshua___> hesco: document.querySelector('[pattern="[^/?]"]'); is working for me
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