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39. # [00:44] <ash_m> I was doing a bit of poking around and I don't /feel/ like there's a conclusive answer on content-first source ordering. The top hits are rather mild assertions from 2009. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Do you use content-first source ordering?
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42. # [00:48] <ash_m> the reason I ask is because I'm wondering how to go about using content-first source ordering if you want <nav> to appear within a <header> element
43. # [00:50] <ash_m> like, I can see a fairly easy way to put it at the top of content if your layout is something like: <header .../><main .../><nav .../><footer .../>
44. # [00:50] <ash_m> using absolute positioning (as opposed as I am to the idea)
45. # [00:51] <ash_m> but if your design is intended to look like: <header><nav .../></header> <main .../><footer .../>; then we've run into a bit of a problem, haven't we?
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48. # [00:52] <CrowX-> is div inside a ul valid?
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51. # [00:54] <ash_m> CrowX-: that doesn't seem right to me
52. # [00:55] <ash_m> CrowX-: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/ul.html
53. # [00:55] <ash_m> Permitted contents: Zero or more li elements
54. # [00:56] <ash_m> CrowX-: so in answer to your question, no.
55. # [00:56] <CrowX-> thanks
56. # [00:56] <ash_m> yw
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70. # [01:18] <jr3> question, how would one rotate an html5 canvas using mostly html5/css3?
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90. # [01:54] <ash_m> jr3: look in to css3 animations
91. # [01:55] <jr3> ash_m I figured it out, but it seems to rotate clockwise then the next counterclockwise
92. # [01:55] <ash_m> pastebin ?
93. # [01:56] <ash_m> or maybe throw it in jsfiddle so I can take a look?
94. # [01:56] <jr3> doing it
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96. # [01:59] <jr3> ash_m: erm, http://jsfiddle.net/hcQ5L/ oddly this code works locally
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98. # [01:59] * jr3 is a noob
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101. # [02:02] <ash_m> I'm looking into it...
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105. # [02:04] <jr3> so on first click it rotates 90degrees clockwise then next click 90deg counter clockwise, I'm trying to get clockwise only rotation
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112. # [02:09] <ash_m> honestly, I don't get why the click event isn't working.
113. # [02:10] <jr3> yea it's odd, it works locally.
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116. # [02:16] <ash_m> I dunno jr3 ... sorry :\
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162. # [04:14] <SimbaLion> A site I'm working on is translating &eacute; into &Eacute; does anyone know what would cause this?
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790. # [20:06] <Pris3rgy> awful practice to force the right scroll bar to appear so I don't get a centering jump when a long dropdown forces a scroll bar
791. # [20:06] <Pris3rgy> ?
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795. # [20:08] <David_Bradbury> I think you're just looking for html { overflow-y: scroll; }
796. # [20:08] <David_Bradbury> `html { overflow-y: scroll; }`
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802. # [20:09] <David_Bradbury> @ Pris3rgy
803. # [20:09] <David_Bradbury> That is not bad practice
804. # [20:10] <Pris3rgy> well of course, but the scroll bar isn't there until a dynamic element appears.
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806. # [20:10] <Pris3rgy> That doesn't 'force' it to appear
807. # [20:10] <Pris3rgy> I solved it by limiting the element height, and making the multiselect scroll instead.
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809. # [20:10] <Pris3rgy> ** that does force it, but itsn't valid CSS.
810. # [20:12] <David_Bradbury> It's totally valid CSS. And I think I'm not understanding what you're describing, but I'm glad you solved it :)
811. # [20:13] <Pris3rgy> I guess it wasn't valid in 2.1, is now!
812. # [20:13] <Pris3rgy> Thanks :)
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814. # [20:15] <dahlfors_> I think very few designs for css2.1 today
815. # [20:16] <Pris3rgy> Yeah it was just something in the back of my mind still, that I knew was invalid before.
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819. # [20:17] <dahlfors_> it's important to remember certain things, like display: inline-block; only applies for elements with display: inline; as default in older ie browsers. but if it otherwise looks ugly without shadows and such css3 features, I let it be ugly in IE ;)
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