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# Session Start: Tue Jun 24 00:00:00 2014
# Session Ident: #html5
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# [00:59] <bencc> does a canvas require more memory than an image element?
# [01:00] <__joshua___> good question. no idea, but probably yes.
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# [01:02] <bencc> is there a way to reduce the canvas memory when it's not in the dom?
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# [01:06] <moo-_-> bencc: no
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# [01:06] <moo-_-> bencc: because canvas is dynamic bitmap, all pixels must be allocated
# [01:06] <moo-_-> bencc: in which kind of situations this could be a problem?
# [01:07] <bencc> moo-_-: I'm creating a drawing app and need to save undeo and redo steps
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# [01:07] <bencc> if you clear the page, you need to save a canvas of the whole area for undo
# [01:08] <bencc> this is an in-memory canvas so maybe I can force garbage collection to make it more light weight
# [01:08] <moo-_-> bencc: I think there is no easy work around for this - this is a limitation for normal photostop-style apps too
# [01:08] <moo-_-> bencc: you can convert it to <img> blob
# [01:08] <moo-_-> bencc: at least firefox holds only compressed version of non-visible images in memory nowadays
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# [01:08] <moo-_-> it might bring down the cost a little if the image is not complex
# [01:09] <moo-_-> bencc: also, I guess you are already saving image delta instead of whole image for normal drawing operations (which do not touch the full canvas)?
# [01:09] <bencc> moo-_-: yes, image elements help
# [01:09] <bencc> what do you mean by <img> blob?
# [01:10] <bencc> moo-_-: I'm saving only the area the user changed between steps but if you clear the board, I have to save everything for this step
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# [01:11] <moo-_-> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/API/HTMLCanvasElement see toBlob()
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# [01:12] <bencc> I see that is not supported in Chrome
# [01:13] <bencc> and I can't select part of the canvas
# [01:13] <bencc> if I only use several colors, can I make the canvas lighter?
# [01:13] <moo-_-> bencc: you can easily grab a part of canvas by drawing it into a temporary secondary canvas
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# [01:13] <moo-_-> bencc: also, chrome version
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# [01:14] <moo-_-> https://github.com/miohtama/Krusovice/blob/master/src/tools/resizer.js#L51
# [01:14] <bencc> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=67587
# [01:14] <moo-_-> though I am pretty sure Chrome has native APIs already
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# [01:15] <bencc> is a blob better than an Image element?
# [01:15] <moo-_-> bencc: both are stored as compressed versions
# [01:15] <moo-_-> in memory-wise a benchmark is only way to find out
# [01:15] <bencc> ok
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# [01:16] <bencc> thanks
# [01:16] <moo-_-> np
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# [01:16] <moo-_-> also use PNG instead of JPEG if you don't want to encoder to lose your image data
# [01:16] <bencc> ok
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# [02:04] <montecfel> This is unbelievably annoying. When drawing a text with fillText on a canvas, the font will randomly blur even though you Math.round() the x and y coordinates. The string "This is a text." is blurry. If I change it into "This is a text.aaa", it becomes sharp. If I remove or add any chars, it becomes blurry again. Can somebody save my computer from meeting with my sledgehammer?
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# [05:17] <checkit> Hey all, wondering if I could get some expert advice from you guys. We're building a quick web app that allows visitors to record their voice using something similar to the following: http://www.taylordigital.com/voice/ I'd like to be able to upload the file from the computer after recording without forcing the visitor to go through the "upload" process manually. Any thoughts?
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# [11:32] <drager> If I have belongsTo('something') cant I get in the view $object->something?
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# [11:33] <drager> I get null
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# [11:38] <moo-_-> drager: can you clarify the context? whatever you are talking about doesn't sound like HTML5 or JavaScript
# [11:40] <drager> moo-_-: Wow, wrong channel sorry
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# [13:02] <luv2dev> How I can add a video background to a fixed height and 100% wide div? please help
# [13:03] <luv2dev> Anybody there?
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# [13:06] <luv2dev> like http://www.masterslider.com/features/templates/fullscreen-slider-video-background/
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# [13:11] <luv2dev> Anybody there please help me to add a video background for full wide and 360px height.
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# [13:30] <luv2dev> Nobody knows how to add a video background for fixed height and wide 100% layout?
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# [13:45] <sud0x3> look at the source code of the page you posted
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# [13:47] <sud0x3> its not the fact that nobody knows, more than likely that way you asked
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# [18:28] <martisj> morning
# [18:28] <martisj> Retina images today?
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# [18:28] <martisj> Which method should I pick for <img> that will be used in the markup
# [18:28] <martisj> as opposed to css
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# [22:38] <flyx> hi folks! the MDN lists for each HTML element "content categories", "permitted content", and "permitted parent elements", for example here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/abbr
# [22:39] <flyx> what's the meaning of content categories, if permitted parent elements is an own entry?
# [22:39] <flyx> I would have thought that "content categories" means that "this element may be used anywhere where these content categories are allowed"
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# [22:40] <flyx> but here with <addr>, the page tells me that it has the categories flow content and phrasing content, but may only have a parent that accepts phrasing content… why does it have the category flow content then?
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