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80. # [02:39] <koii> wow. i love to code for firefox os. webdesign without ie ;)
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257. # [09:18] <gde33> perhaps a trick question, how produce a numbered reference list in html?
258. # [09:18] <gde33> (other than doing it manulally)
259. # [09:18] <gde33> foobar[??] should link to #foobar with link number [1]
260. # [09:19] <gde33> but when I insert bar[??] before that foobar should become [2]
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294. # [10:18] <dahlfors_> gde33: check out <ol> element if you need ordered lists
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300. # [10:27] <gde33> dahlfors_: not really all that useful is it?
301. # [10:28] <gde33> It was more a question 'why not?' I suppose
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306. # [10:33] <dahlfors_> I have no idea what you're going for. it sounded like you wanted lists that have numbers when I read it quickly
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308. # [10:36] <dahlfors_> and if you need wikipedia-styled references in text and a list at the bottom, you'll need to make it in backend or some js solution
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399. # [13:34] <FrEaKmAn_> hi all..
400. # [13:35] <FrEaKmAn_> I'm wondering how to make a zoom effect in canvas as here? http://dygraphs.com/
401. # [13:35] <FrEaKmAn_> when you click and move the mouse to zoom in specific area
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403. # [13:36] <FrEaKmAn_> must I draw a rectangle and when user moves the mouse, clear everything and redraw it?
404. # [13:36] <FrEaKmAn_> or can I just remove the newly added rectangle?
405. # [13:36] <FrEaKmAn_> checking the docs, clearRect just removes everything on some x,y coordinates?
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591. # [17:31] <Ridley5> hi all
592. # [17:31] <Ridley5> i have a embed a radio player in my site
593. # [17:32] <Ridley5> iw onder how can i prevent the player from pause/resume when i change the webpage
594. # [17:32] <Ridley5> wonder*
595. # [17:33] <Ridley5> a player like in soundclood or beatport maybe
596. # [17:33] <Sharaal> so you want to have a player on your page which not stop playing if you navigate through the page?
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599. # [17:34] <Ridley5> yes Sharaal
600. # [17:34] <Ridley5> that is
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603. # [17:35] <Sharaal> good way: dont reload the page on navigate, only change the content via dom operations
604. # [17:35] <Sharaal> easy fast bad way: move your page into a iframe and the player in the dom outside the iframe
605. # [17:36] <Ridley5> thanks Sharaal
606. # [17:36] <Ridley5> do you have an exemple of changing dom please ?
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610. # [17:39] <Sharaal> it exist many concepts of this, the keyword here is "one page application". I do it with angularjs (https://angularjs.org/)
611. # [17:39] <Sharaal> alternative simpler solution is jQuery doing an ajax request on click to a navigation element and change a content container in the result callback with something like $('#content').html('new html from response');
612. # [17:40] <Ridley5> ok good, i wanna read about that
613. # [17:40] <Ridley5> thank you again Sharaal :)
614. # [17:42] <Sharaal> np :)
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619. # [17:45] <Ridley5> i found this too : http://css-tricks.com/rethinking-dynamic-page-replacing-content/
620. # [17:45] <Ridley5> :)
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622. # [17:47] <Sharaal> imo to much animation foo for a basic example of ajax :)
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664. # [18:22] <n-iCe> hello, I add pics in my site, but the site feels slow, why can it be, feels heavy
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666. # [18:25] <estellevw> n-iCe: make sure your images are fully optimized. You just added tons of weight to your site. Of course it’s going to slow down
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671. # [18:26] <n-iCe> estellevw: file sizes are not big
672. # [18:27] <n-iCe> not even 1mb
673. # [18:27] <n-iCe> each
674. # [18:27] <estellevw> 1MB is huge.
675. # [18:27] <n-iCe> not even, are like 300kbs
676. # [18:27] <n-iCe> each
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678. # [18:27] <estellevw> try getting your entire download to be under 1MB
679. # [18:27] <estellevw> all the assets combined
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685. # [18:42] <n-iCe> thanks estellevw
686. # [18:42] <n-iCe> one more thing, I am trying to change a background image, from a section
687. # [18:43] <n-iCe> but when I do, with background-image it goes to my first image and not the one I am telling in the command
688. # [18:43] <estellevw> check your css specificity. Not sure what you mean by “command"
689. # [18:43] <n-iCe> well background-image: url('video.jpg');
690. # [18:44] <n-iCe> but If I use a css color code it works
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692. # [18:45] <estellevw> if the command has a typo, or has a selector that has less weight in terms of specificity, or equal weight but comes 1st in the css source order, that might be the issue
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698. # [18:55] <n-iCe> damn
699. # [18:55] <n-iCe> can't find why
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703. # [19:02] <n-iCe> look estellevw http://smartcontainer.com.mx/
704. # [19:02] <n-iCe> is it me or it feels heavy
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721. # [19:32] <estellevw> n-iCe: The design of the site is what I would expect from a person design portfolio, not from a business.It’s highlighting a few images rather than showing off what the company actually does. The user has to discover the little down arrow in the right hand corner of the page. While you can spend hours, days or months improving the i/o performance of the site, the UX is a major issue even for those on T3.
722. # [19:32] <estellevw> It’s a pretty site, but it’s not a user friendly site
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748. # [19:53] <n-iCe> estellevw: but, how does it feel
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760. # [19:57] <dahlfors_> estelle is correct. the problem is that you're creating the kind of site you want - not the kind of site that company needs
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767. # [20:00] <dahlfors_> the key to most company websites is 1) to get the user as quickly as possible to the place the user want - or for the company, to guide the possible clients to their product, and 2) to get conversion on their offerings
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771. # [20:02] <dahlfors_> to do that, there's many possible ways. but going for a complex UI isn't the solution for most traditional companies. maybe, if the company is some weird specialized web production company - they want to have a UI out of the ordinary. for a more traditional kind of business - nope. it will only lead to users getting away from the site
772. # [20:02] <dahlfors_> keep to minimalism if you don't know what's right for your customer
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929. # [22:54] <ROODAY> can someone help me out?
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933. # [22:55] <ROODAY> hello?
934. # [22:57] <itsanickname> Hello
935. # [22:57] <itsanickname> What do you need help with?
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938. # [22:59] <bigpic> fml firefox is caching my appcache manifest file despite telling apache to set the expiration as “access”
939. # [22:59] <bigpic> any ideas as to what I can do to prevent this?
940. # [22:59] <bigpic> my manifest has a date stamp embedded in it as a versioning mechanism
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943. # [23:00] <bigpic> the request for the manifest file doesn’t appear in the firebug net tab to verfify the response headers
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948. # [23:03] <ROODAY> Oh sorry i didnt realize that there was a notification here
949. # [23:03] <ROODAY> i solved the issue :P
950. # [23:03] <ROODAY> basically i had an object
951. # [23:03] <ROODAY> made of a circle and a line
952. # [23:04] <ROODAY> and the circle was moving at different speeds
953. # [23:04] <ROODAY> but i solved it by changing by changing this.x, this.y as parameters in redrawing it on requestanimationframe with 0
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