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# [10:12] <desktop> i need help with validating. i dont know what the first error here means http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpodliberty.com%2Fpodcasts%2Fyour-moms-house-podcast&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices
# [10:13] <desktop> the line it gives has nothing to do w the closing body tag
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# [10:15] <moo-_-> desktop: you leave some <div> open or some other tag open
# [10:15] <moo-_-> desktop: you are probably nesting p, div and others in non-allowed way
# [10:16] <desktop> any tag? :x
# [10:16] <desktop> could it be <hr>?
# [10:16] <desktop> instead of <hr />
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# [10:24] <moo-_-> desktop: take bits out of your HTML until it validates and you'll find out
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# [18:05] <carlitta87> .join css
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# [18:06] <carlitta87> Hi...i was on apple.com today and i noticedfor sum of the large images, the front end developer split the large image in 3 and places in a figure age for background image. Is there a particular reason for this method or is it just for uniqueness?
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# [18:52] <David_Bradbury> carlitta87: I don't see the part you're talking about - My guess would be to either facilitate some sort of possible animation, or to help with mobile devices that have a hard time loading large images that aren't split up
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# [19:12] <preyalone> Can CSS change the state of checkboxes? Or only HTML and JavaScript?
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# [19:30] <carlitta87> David_Bradbury : Hi david, thanks for responding... its this link.... http://www.apple.com/your-verse/striking-a-new-chord/ .... the image of the group of persons on the beach....
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# [19:39] <n-iCe> hello, created a site using a template, but I'm wondering in the video section how can I change the background color for an image
# [19:39] <n-iCe> http://smartcontainer.com.mx/
# [19:40] <estellevw> unless you have a transparent png or gif, the background color doesn’t show thru.
# [19:40] <n-iCe> what do you mean?
# [19:41] <estellevw> you can use filters to apply special effects to opaque images, look up “shaders” to learn about css filtering effects in modern browsers
# [19:41] <n-iCe> uhm
# [19:41] <n-iCe> All I want is just to add an image as background
# [19:41] <estellevw> you wrote “background color”
# [19:42] <estellevw> ah, that’s not what you wrote
# [19:42] <estellevw> use “background-image” property then
# [19:42] <n-iCe> it is set to background: #26292E;
# [19:42] <n-iCe> but when I use background-image: url('paper.gif');
# [19:42] <n-iCe> it does not change to the image I set, it changed to the first images at the top, the sliding images
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# [19:44] <estellevw> use your developer tools to figure out what is going on
# [19:44] <n-iCe> ok! thanks! by the way, did you launch the site?
# [19:44] <n-iCe> does it feel slow for you? because of the images?
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# [19:46] <estellevw> i already told you what I thought of your site last week.
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# [19:48] <n-iCe> oh right!
# [19:48] <n-iCe> but I did the images smaller, and still feels slow
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# [19:48] <n-iCe> not sure what's going on
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# [20:54] <t0biasj0seph> I'm working on a form and having some issues with input type="datetime-local". After looking through the web for solutions I have seen people talking about how it shouldn't be used and it will be discontinued. Does anyone know if this is true? Using it makes my life a lot easier, but does take some extra programming for IE/Mozilla.
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# [21:13] <n-iCe> estellevw: hi
# [21:13] <n-iCe> still here?
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# [22:56] <estellevw> in chrome developer tools, the inspector will show what animation is attached to an element. Is there a way to show the @keyframes declaration?
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# [22:57] <estellevw> t0biasj0seph: datettime-local should work, it’s datetime that is not working anymore. See http://estelle.github.io/forms/#slide33
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# [23:00] <t0biasj0seph> estellevw: Thanks, but the input "data-mask"-like feature does not work in Mozilla or IE. Do you not have that issue?
# [23:02] <estellevw> I just updated these pages a few weeks ago, so they’re accurate still: http://www.wufoo.com/html5/types/4-date.html
# [23:02] <estellevw> FF and IE don’t support it yet
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# [23:07] <irina-> hi
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# [23:07] <irina-> Question: how i can download this audio from html5 player: http://www.birdjam.com/birdsong.php?id=27 , becouse i connot find any solution
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# [23:11] <moo-_-> irina-: open Web Developers tool and Network tab
# [23:11] <moo-_-> then press play
# [23:11] <moo-_-> you will see the network request made to download the audio
# [23:11] <moo-_-> right click, copy URL
# [23:11] <moo-_-> (this in Firefox)
# [23:11] <t0biasj0seph> estellevw: okay, I knew that. Do you know what would be the best way to work around this? Maybe detect what browser the user is using and then change the input type to text if on IE, Mozilla, etc so I can add a placeholder with the format? I've also tried using a few jQuery plugins but have had no luck with those either. (This project is not using bootstrap fyi)
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# [23:12] <irina-> moo-_-, not find ;( let me try again
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# [23:13] <moo-_-> irina-: http://imgur.com/PsShWfM
# [23:13] <t0biasj0seph> estellevw: it says "When not supported, the browser defaults to the text input type." so maybe there's an easy way to set the placeholder if it is defaulted to type=text
# [23:13] <irina-> moo-_-, and let you to download the mp3?
# [23:14] <moo-_-> irina-: no, the site prevents it
# [23:14] <moo-_-> irina-: it does HTTP referer check
# [23:14] <moo-_-> you can spoof that if you want, but you need to use command line download tools for that
# [23:14] <irina-> :( is not any solution?
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# [23:14] <irina-> what software?
# [23:14] <moo-_-> http://www.dzone.com/snippets/using-wget-download-content
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# [23:15] <irina-> and i put the url from the website
# [23:15] <irina-> or... ?
# [23:15] <irina-> that get_song..
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# [23:16] <corei7> hi
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# [23:16] <corei7> i have a question
# [23:17] <estellevw> t0biasj0seph: if the browser doesn’t support datetime, it will support placeholder except for IE9 and earlier
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# [23:17] <corei7> I'm a university student in software engineering
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# [23:17] <moo-_-> irina-: yes, and you might need to also copy-paste cookies. the website makes it difficult on purpose :)
# [23:17] <moo-_-> irina-: there might be easier toos available, I don't know
# [23:17] <corei7> i want to select a special field in software
# [23:17] <irina-> uff
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# [23:18] <corei7> i don't know web development or desktop programming
# [23:18] <corei7> what is your advice?
# [23:18] <moo-_-> corei7: most future development will be web-based
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# [23:19] <corei7> so in your opinion web is better?
# [23:19] <moo-_-> yes
# [23:19] <corei7> ok
# [23:19] <corei7> whic programming language? Java or Python for web?
# [23:19] <moo-_-> corei7: you can easily check the sales of desktop computers for the facts
# [23:19] <moo-_-> corei7: python
# [23:19] <corei7> why not java?
# [23:20] <moo-_-> corei7: because it is dying
# [23:20] <moo-_-> corei7: https://twitter.com/indypy/status/502852288097292288
# [23:20] <b-ot> moo-_-: @indypy: "Python has surpassed Java as the top language used to introduce U.S. students to programming" http://t.co/aKfnrFbRTD #Python
# [23:20] <t0biasj0seph> estellevw: perfect! I was testing it on the wrong page. Thank you, good to know it won't be going away. I find it very useful
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# [23:20] <corei7> i saw Play Framework
# [23:21] <corei7> some people said that Play is more powerful that Django
# [23:21] <moo-_-> corei7: Django is not the most powerful framework, but is very novice friendly
# [23:21] <moo-_-> corei7: this is for you:
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# [23:22] <moo-_-> http://tutorial.djangogirls.org/
# [23:22] <moo-_-> very hands on tutorial
# [23:22] <corei7> ok
# [23:22] <moo-_-> you don't need power, you need something to get started
# [23:22] <corei7> if i learn Java then i can coding in Android
# [23:22] <corei7> so i can use it in Android and Web
# [23:22] <corei7> both
# [23:23] <moo-_-> corei7: well, Java is slowly dying star
# [23:23] <moo-_-> corei7: and it is not as novice friendly as python
# [23:23] <moo-_-> corei7: do you want to limit yourself to Android?
# [23:23] <corei7> no
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# [23:23] <corei7> ok i decide to go with Python
# [23:23] <moo-_-> good choice :)
# [23:23] <corei7> thx
# [23:23] <corei7> i have another question
# [23:23] <irina-> uff
# [23:24] <corei7> im new in IRC
# [23:24] <irina-> moo-_-, i try with wget but not result
# [23:24] <corei7> how can create a username with Password?
# [23:24] <moo-_-> corei7: in freenode?
# [23:24] <corei7> moo, i installed Pidgin in Linux Mint, and run it, then i typed corei7 for username
# [23:25] <corei7> the server was ubuntu
# [23:25] <moo-_-> corei7: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
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# [23:25] <corei7> irc.ubuntu.com
# [23:25] <moo-_-> no idea how Pidgin IRC plugin works
# [23:25] <moo-_-> corei7: for hardcore ircing I recommend http://quassel-irc.org/
# [23:26] <corei7> ok moo, what is different between irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.com?
# [23:26] <moo-_-> I have no idea what's irc.ubuntu.com is
# [23:27] <moo-_-> corei7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123988/what-is-irc-ubuntu-com-used-for
# [23:27] <corei7> ok moo
# [23:27] <corei7> thanks
# [23:27] <moo-_-> np
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# [23:28] <corei7> this channel is in freenode?
# [23:28] <irina-> yes
# [23:28] <corei7> ok
# [23:28] <moo-_-> corei7: some background about IRC and freenode http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/
# [23:28] <corei7> oh thx
# [23:28] <corei7> this is awsome
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