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  1. # Session Start: Tue Sep 16 15:42:23 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  4. # [15:43] <DjMadness_> hi guys, what do you guys use for input date ? a lot of browsers do not support it
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  6. # [15:44] <Sharaal> DjMadness_: I love text inputs with the support of a calendar for easy selection a date
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  8. # [15:46] <DjMadness_> Sharaal: so you extend the text input your self with javascript i guess ?
  9. # [15:46] <Sharaal> DjMadness_: more or less, it exists much libs for that like jquery ui
  10. # [15:47] <DjMadness_> ye ofc, its my idea to do such my self, but then i keep thinking of those with js disabled
  11. # [15:47] <Sharaal> DjMadness_: it exists date input type, but only for chrome, not ff or ie. but if you can ignore that users you can use it :)
  12. # [15:47] <Sharaal> DjMadness_: dont care of them, they can input the date in a text field, thats enough
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  14. # [15:47] <Sharaal> DjMadness_: ppl which deactivate js dont need comfort :)
  15. # [15:48] <DjMadness_> ah ye i guess so
  16. # [15:48] <Sharaal> I would use input type date. strictly html5 and dont care about people not using modern browsers
  17. # [15:50] <Sharaal> or a js fallback for that browsers
  18. # [15:50] <moo-_-> DjMadness_: http://exacttarget.github.io/fuelux/javascript.html#datepickers
  19. # [15:50] <moo-_-> date pickers are quite complicated and always source of grief
  20. # [15:50] <DjMadness_> ye they are quite complicated, that lib looks quite good :)
  21. # [15:51] <moo-_-> DjMadness_: comes with all the bootstrap, in good and in bad
  22. # [15:51] <DjMadness_> ye currently using bootstrap my self, works quite nicely :)
  23. # [15:51] <Sharaal> alternative: http://jqueryui.com/datepicker/
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  134. # [18:23] <pandeiro> is it possible to use the appcache manifest to cache resources based on a wildcard? i see that wildcards are possible in the NETWORK: section, but not in the CACHE: section -- is that the case? is this just not possible?
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  154. # [18:33] <marc_v92> pandeiro: Not currently possible, no. You’ll either have to enter the files one by one, or run a script that loops through that directory and builds out the file for you.
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  190. # [19:09] <pandeiro> marc_v92: thx for confirming; problem is i'd like to cache third-party resources (eg, google fonts) - any idea if that's possible?
  191. # [19:11] <marc_v92> pandeiro: I don’t believe that you can cache third-party resources using an appcache, unfortunately.
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  214. # [19:30] <pandeiro> marc_v92: it seems that same-origin only applies to resources fetched over SSL; i'll test it out though. thanks again
  215. # [19:31] <pandeiro> source: http://appcachefacts.info/
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  220. # [19:32] <marc_v92> pandeiro: Ahh, interesting. Thanks for the link, looks like you’re right.
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  289. # [20:48] <zlude> Hello! someone can explain me what is "data-target" "data-*"? what it means? for me appears that "data-target" is a best way to manipulate html with js, no more using id="#div" and yes... data-target="#div", i'm wrong? someone can help me?
  290. # [20:49] <marc_v92> zlude: “data-“ is simply a way to store additional information related to an element that you can access with JS, etc.
  291. # [20:50] <marc_v92> zlude: Using an element’s ID is still much faster to target. “data-“ attributes are used more for things like, data-price, data-color, etc.
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  293. # [20:50] <noobatron> Hi all
  294. # [20:51] <zlude> marc_v92, so the best way to access with JS is ID's yet? but some data-* is a new experimental method for replace ID's? or not?
  295. # [20:51] <marc_v92> zlude: Nope, not supposed to replace IDs. :)
  296. # [20:52] <zlude> marc_v92, because a friend hear in some place that another way is better than JS accessing ID's, and i'm looking for that he want means...
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  299. # [20:53] <marc_v92> zlude: I’m not sure what he’s referring to, but I haven’t heard anything about that. There are numerous ways to target a specific element, and while yes, you can technically target an element by a data attribute, it’s certainly going to be slower than targeting its ID.
  300. # [20:56] <zlude> marc_v92, just for learning, why more slower? what it means for us? browser is more slower to find a element using data-?
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  303. # [20:58] <marc_v92> zlude: Because of the way that different attributes work. No two elements on a page should have the same ID, so when you target something by its ID, most engines will just grab the first instance of that ID. But you can have multiple elements with the same data attribute, and therefore it has to loop through everything and compile an array of elements that match.
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  309. # [20:59] <zlude> marc_v92, thanks for explain! :)
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  311. # [21:00] <noobatron> could anyone explain why this is in large bold font?
  312. # [21:01] <noobatron> http://pastebin.com/cLadtapQ
  313. # [21:01] <noobatron> not sure if it's due to the missing header tag
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  318. # [21:07] <marc_v92> zlude: No worries. :)
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  421. # [23:22] <danostrowski> if you want to have a single data element... say a person... and have multiple representations of that person (slightly different) in a single page app... is it a pretty common operation across the frameworks to have them both bind against the same underlying data?
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  447. # [23:52] <Dastada> Hey
  448. # [23:53] <Dastada> Anyone interested in an excersise?
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  450. # [23:58] <BenjaminR> ?
  451. # [23:58] <__joshua_____> like jogging?
  452. # [23:59] <BenjaminR> feeling like back at school when such questions come up :)
  453. # Session Close: Wed Sep 17 00:00:00 2014

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