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  207. # [06:35] <karanlyons> Hey, does anyone have a good way to switch video sources in an HTML5 player (different qualities, for example)?
  208. # [06:36] <karanlyons> I've got the whole thing solved with the exception of the transition between two sources, where obviously the on screen image cuts out. Faking that image with a layered canvas gets me a color space mismatch.
  209. # [06:36] <karanlyons> Also, drawing an HD image to a canvas is sloooooow.
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  211. # [06:39] <karanlyons> Also, <video>'s readyState and 'canplaythrough' events aren't very accurate at all, going so far as to fire 'canplaythrough' when the section of video around currentTime hasn't even buffered.
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  213. # [06:42] <doug64k> karanlyons: change the src
  214. # [06:42] <karanlyons> doug64k: Nah, I know that much.
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  216. # [06:42] <doug64k> you want to hide the clunky behavior with a thumbnail?
  217. # [06:43] <karanlyons> Basically, but instead of a thumbnail (which would be easiest), I'd like to hide it with the last seen frame (harder).
  218. # [06:43] <karanlyons> I *was* drawing the <video> element into a canvas, but that's fairly slow, and then the color spaces don't match.
  219. # [06:43] <doug64k> avconv can generate a jpeg from a given frame number of a given file
  220. # [06:44] <karanlyons> Yeah, but then I need an image for every frame, which sucks.
  221. # [06:44] <doug64k> lol
  222. # [06:44] <doug64k> no, you need to request one frame from the server IF they change the source
  223. # [06:44] <karanlyons> I know, but that's not very "clean", ya know?
  224. # [06:44] <karanlyons> I could also have a second video element that's set to the old source, and swap that in while loading the new one.
  225. # [06:45] <doug64k> what's clean is not putting a billboard on top of a UI element imho :D
  226. # [06:45] <karanlyons> I'm not sure if all browsers will "share" the downloaded data, though.
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  228. # [06:45] <karanlyons> doug64k: Ideally I'd like to solve this in such a way that you just include a standard <video> element and a js file.
  229. # [06:45] <karanlyons> So far I'm meeting that goal, I just really want the thing to be slick.
  230. # [06:46] <doug64k> karanlyons: double-buffering. I used that in this: http://www.jstraight.com/ (when you run it uses the other frame to avoid reload flicker)
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  232. # [06:46] <doug64k> pick autorun and type some html in top left
  233. # [06:47] <doug64k> there are two output frames, and it alternates between them
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  235. # [06:47] <karanlyons> Ah, haha, hilarious to see us reinventing graphics processing on the web :D
  236. # [06:47] <doug64k> you could do the same with elements
  237. # [06:48] <karanlyons> My flow was: user switches quality -> pause video -> grab and draw image -> show canvas -> change source -> when loaded, play video and hide canvas.
  238. # [06:48] <karanlyons> (Right now the video player is entirely css, no canvas or anything, so the <canvas> here is *just* for grabbing the last seen frame when we're switching quality.)
  239. # [06:49] <doug64k> feasible way: have a second video element, and when it gets to the point that it can play, the old one hides and the new one is displayed
  240. # [06:49] <karanlyons> Yeah, that might be the best idea.
  241. # [06:50] <karanlyons> It's not...*great*, but I think it's the best we can achieve given what browsers give us.
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  243. # [06:50] <doug64k> we're lucky we have that much control, really
  244. # [06:51] <karanlyons> HTML5 video is actually a pretty great API, though parts of it *do not* work as advertised.
  245. # [06:51] <karanlyons> Especially anything around tracking buffering progress.
  246. # [06:51] <karanlyons> And my god is this better than everything was a decade ago.
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  250. # [07:00] <doug64k> they don't want to give people sufficient rope
  251. # [07:01] <karanlyons> They kinda *do* though, by misreporting that data. I'm having to write my own stuff to tell when a video is *actually* playable.
  252. # [07:02] <karanlyons> Whereby "they", I really mean vendor to vendor.
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