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1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 15 00:00:00 2014
2. # Session Ident: #html5
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19. # [00:13] <Katharsis> i'm using column-count for display 3 columns with images (diffrent size)
20. # [00:13] <Katharsis> after adding another images, it should display at the end of the columns
21. # [00:13] <Katharsis> but it's not, images are shuffling
22. # [00:13] <Katharsis> any ideas how to fix it?
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131. # [02:10] <Babi_> Hi all :D
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133. # [02:11] <Babi_> Wondering how to configure a website's image gallery that pops out the screen with a mouse hover
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693. # [15:53] <red_horned_rihno> HeadFirst HTML & CSS or HTML And CSS by Jon Duckett. Which would be better for a beginner?
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698. # [15:55] <dahlfors_> I'd doubt most ppl in here have read any beginner books in html/css the last decade or so. I'd recommend looking at book reviews on amazon or somewhere else online
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702. # [16:00] <red_horned_rihno> @dahlfors : hmm.. HeadFirst has avg rating of 4.5 from 97 reviews, HTML & CSS by Jon Duckett has average 4.7 rating from 564 customers. Plus amazon.com is showing it as #1 best seller in web design... So that settles the case. Thanks btw :)
703. # [16:03] <dahlfors_> nice if that helped. I've been developing so long so I have no idea what I'd recommend to someone asking for a book :)
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705. # [16:06] <red_horned_rihno> @dahlfors_ : hmm.. So what would a experienced developer like you recommend to a newbie ? Where should I start if I would like to get into web development ?
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709. # [16:09] <dahlfors_> find what works for you. for me it was looking at source, looking at examples, trying to understand things. back when I started there was no css, javascript had just been released, so it was less complexity. But I think that would still be the way I'd like to do it myself
710. # [16:09] <dahlfors_> http://www.webplatform.org/ might be of help, but I think it's early on
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715. # [16:15] <red_horned_rihno> @dahlfors_ : that look like a useful reference site... hmm.. actually i'm confused between two approaches to learn.. i.e the one you recommended vs learning by book. I think if i look at source and learn, i might miss some additional/advanced parameters that can be used with an element... and i first try to learn from book what a piece of line does and then how could it be used in other way.. fiddling with it.. is it a
716. # [16:15] <red_horned_rihno> good approach ?
717. # [16:16] <dahlfors_> try the book, then try look at examples and see how it feels
718. # [16:17] <dahlfors_> or other way around
719. # [16:17] <dahlfors_> I certainly learn best when I sit around and fiddle myself
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721. # [16:17] <dahlfors_> but it might be different for others
722. # [16:18] <dahlfors_> red_horned_rihno: look up the html5 boiler plate anyway
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724. # [16:18] <dahlfors_> that's a great way to start with html
725. # [16:18] <dahlfors_> also try to find articles / videos explaining the boilerplate
726. # [16:18] <dahlfors_> but the book might be a good first step
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728. # [16:19] <red_horned_rihno> boilerplate ?
729. # [16:19] <dahlfors_> it's a starting template, with good defaults
730. # [16:20] <dahlfors_> and you can find explanations on why those are good defaults
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739. # [16:24] <red_horned_rihno> ok.. i'll read on that... right now i'm planning on completing the book.. so i can get a hang of html/css.. would you please tell me some good sites whose source code is clever and worth looking at?
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752. # [16:34] <dahlfors_> good question
753. # [16:35] <dahlfors_> I'd say most ppl take shortcuts and make decisions to save time sooner or later - and that's visible in the code here and there. in general I'd say take a look at simple pages first, copy their designs/markup/css animations and such
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757. # [16:37] <dahlfors_> simple pages that promote a service / an app or something might be a good start
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760. # [16:40] <red_horned_rihno> @dahlfors_ : Ok. I'll explore internet for such pages. I would like to ask you one more question if you don't mind...
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768. # [16:45] <red_horned_rihno> What exactly is node.js, angular.js, anything.js ? I mean I get they are javascripts.. but why and where can I use them ? i think they are commonly used functions bundled together...
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770. # [16:46] <dahlfors_> for javascript, look into jquery early, I'd save node, angular and such frameworks for later
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772. # [16:46] <dahlfors_> html5 + css3 + jquery, that's enough to start with
773. # [16:47] <dahlfors_> jquery is preferred over standard javascript because there are so many plugins, it's pretty much becoming a standard used everywhere, and jquery takes care of most cross-browser inconsistencies
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782. # [16:58] <red_horned_rihno> @dahfors_ : Thanks for the help :)
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786. # [17:01] <dahlfors_> (and you'll still need to learn the quirks and syntax of javascript to write it through the jquery framework, just so you know)
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798. # [17:13] <red_horned_rihno> @dahlfors_ : So I'll add javascript to my to do list.. next three months looks pretty busy..
799. # [17:15] <dahlfors_> :)
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842. # [17:59] <Zegrento7> Hello everybody! :) Sorry, if this is a noob question but I don't have much experience with css. So I have a div with contains three more divs. I'd like these div's to be behind each other and to move with their parent. I do this like this: http://jsfiddle.net/pwny3n0L/ but the three divs get below of each other instead of behind. What am I doing wrong?
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846. # [18:03] <imLinder> Zegrento7: Do you mean that you want the divs stacked on top of each other? If thats the case use absolute instead of realtive positioning of .d
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849. # [18:04] <Zegrento7> Oh myit worked this time! I thought i tried that already. Thanks, it worked!
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851. # [18:05] <Zegrento7> One morequick question: can the same be done if the container is static?
852. # [18:05] <Zegrento7> e.g. not fixed, etc
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856. # [18:07] <imLinder> The container has to be positioned, set it to "position: relative" in that case
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859. # [18:09] <Zegrento7> Thanks!
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