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  95. # [03:07] <buzzlewoo> is it <textarea> for a Comments box in a contact form?
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  159. # [06:00] <goleif> Hi! I'm working with websockets, and got it working. I've built a chat where one script is constantly running on the server, and keeps checking for new data from every user. But most examples I've seen, suggests that every client has its own process, its own running script. But then how would the clients send data between each other?
  160. # [06:02] <wolfgang42> goleif: They can only send data through the server, so the server will have to send messages between clients.
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  163. # [06:03] <goleif> wolfgang42: I know that. But how would that happen? I can't send socket connections between the client scripts and the server scripts. So, would I have to save every message in a database, and then make the server script keep checking the database every second? It seems like asking for problems. Or am I missing something?
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  165. # [06:07] <wolfgang42> goleif: Up to you; what language are you using server-side?
  166. # [06:08] <goleif> wolfgang42: I'm using PHP. (Yes I know there are languages better suited for socket work :))
  167. # [06:08] <wolfgang42> goleif: Um. I think your solution of storing in the database is probably easiest.
  168. # [06:09] <wolfgang42> You might also consider setting up some sort of message queue that the server processes can connect to, if you'd rather not do polling.
  169. # [06:10] <goleif> wolfgang42: If the server checks the database very frequently, won't there be a big risk of timeouts, delays and so on?
  170. # [06:11] <wolfgang42> If it checks frequently I wouldn't think there would be timeouts, why?
  171. # [06:12] <goleif> I was thinking that the server might not allow a high amount of lookups per minute
  172. # [06:12] <goleif> Let's say there's a hundred clients, there would be an enormous amount of lookups in one minute
  173. # [06:13] <wolfgang42> Like I said, if you're going for something more robust you'll probably want to set up a message queue server instead.
  174. # [06:14] <goleif> Simply one queue of commands that the server takes care of when it has the time?
  175. # [06:15] <Harrit> happy new year!
  176. # [06:16] <goleif> wolfgang42: How would you go about setting up that queue? (Writing it to a text file...?)
  177. # [06:16] <goleif> Harrit: Happy new year!
  178. # [06:18] <wolfgang42> goleif: I'd use an actual message queue server, like RabbitMQ or 0MQ or something;
  179. # [06:19] <wolfgang42> they've already sorted out all of the technical details, so you just need to open a connection to the server and subscribe to the appropriate queue.
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  181. # [06:21] <wolfgang42> Or celery or gearman or or or...
  182. # [06:21] <wolfgang42> goleif: I'm going to bed now. Good luck!
  183. # [06:23] <goleif> Thanks for your suggestions
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  477. # [19:49] <buzzlewoo> can anyone see why the php "breaks" this page? http://www.coffeeonmars.com/contact-form/basic_form_john.html
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  492. # [20:36] <jeffreylevesque> anyone here written xml file?
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  496. # [20:50] <wolfgang42> jeffreylevesque: Don't ask to ask, just ask your question.
  497. # [20:53] <jeffreylevesque> I'm trying to create my first xml file - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/816
  498. # [20:53] <jeffreylevesque> wolfgang42, i'm curious if i need to define 'UTF-8' in the xml declaration, and if there are any suggestions anyone can provide
  499. # [20:55] <wolfgang42> jeffreylevesque: You don't *need* to define the encoding (which also doesn't have to be UTF-8), but it doesn't do any harm.
  500. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> You should, though
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