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  189. # [06:21] <headrx> when laying out a site, 3 divs in the body(the skeleton), in a T shape - left Nav, right Main, top Banner/logo... is css height-width going to be the best way to make cross-device compatibility
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  233. # [08:13] <JohnnyL> how does one play audio? lossless preferred (flac).
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  238. # [08:17] <JohnnyL> also how to control volume?
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  261. # [09:17] <P3nnyw1se> hi guys.. having coded java for half a year, I wanna introduce myself to visual studio and HTML5... I was just wondering, what good tools are out there for designing in HTML5, domain, class models you know.. initial design.. Do Visual studio provide such services?
  262. # [09:19] <sqpat> i guess it depends how from the gorund up you want to go
  263. # [09:19] <sqpat> and what you are building
  264. # [09:19] <sqpat> ive never used visual studio for html5 tho
  265. # [09:19] <sqpat> but for instance, there are engines and templates meant for building websites, other for video, other for games, other for web apps, it really depends. what do you mean "do html5"
  266. # [09:19] <sqpat> that'll affect the design of the application im sure
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  271. # [09:21] <P3nnyw1se> well the thing is, I got someone who is programming a lot in visual studio, doing a big database design, and some logic. ... now I want to do a GUI, for some of that, in HTML5, he right away suggested I'd use visual, simply because he is using it and because he uses the microsoft entity framework
  272. # [09:22] <P3nnyw1se> so it makes sense if we are gonna 'code' together
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  275. # [09:23] <P3nnyw1se> basicly a gui design for surveymonkey
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  324. # [10:50] <kozmikreis> Hai o/
  325. # [10:50] <kozmikreis> I need some advices please... I have a dynamic form (in that the elements it displays are driven by what data has already been entered) and I want to do rolling validation using a round trip to the server (because some of the calcuations it does are hella complex and also need data lookups).
  326. # [10:50] <kozmikreis> What's the accepted way to return the info needed to update the form? An HTML lump replacing the form being displayed is technically easiest, but then it overwrites anything the user has entered in the meantime and loses the current input element's focus.
  327. # [10:51] <kozmikreis> If I return JSON instead, then I need a clientside parser and comparison with the model as displayed.
  328. # [10:51] <kozmikreis> Halp :-)
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  358. # [11:57] <Sharaal> kozmikreis: I would use json. how do you render the form currently? It sounds it goes in the direction "one page application" and/or "clientside rendering". there are many solutions like react, backbone, angular
  359. # [11:58] <kozmikreis> Sharaal: It's a naive Symfony one-page app at the moment - I'm just reading up on React right now :-)
  360. # [11:58] <kozmikreis> 1st problem: where do I place it in the Symfony directory structure?
  361. # [11:58] * kozmikreis hasn't used Symfony that much either, which doesn't help...
  362. # [11:59] <Sharaal> clientside: its just js. serverside symfony: use a controller which doesn't render a layout/view, just give the json response to the client
  363. # [11:59] <kozmikreis> React sounds promising with the virtual DOM diff, that's exactly what I was planning to write myself - better to have one ready-rolled and battle-hardened
  364. # [12:00] <kozmikreis> Sharaal: I know it's just JS, I would prefer to keep vendor code separate from app-specific
  365. # [12:00] <Sharaal> yeah react is the next large thing I will learn and use too :)
  366. # [12:00] <kozmikreis> :-D
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  369. # [12:02] <Sharaal> we have symfony too, we use assetic for vendor/app js. but don't know if its the common way. I would not recommend this, for vendor I prefer bower + dynamic cdn urls for vendor js and browserify for app js
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  371. # [12:05] <Sharaal> oh, there is no official cdn for react :(
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  382. # [12:20] <kozmikreis> Sharaal: Yeah, sucks. Silly FB people.
  383. # [12:20] <Sharaal> yes ^^
  384. # [12:21] <kozmikreis> I'll have to do what you do with Assetic and include it by locally placing it in.
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  584. # [17:14] <Ms2ger> MajorWork, that you don't have any cells
  585. # [17:15] <MajorWork> td's?
  586. # [17:15] <MajorWork> thanks bro
  587. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Yep
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  691. # [19:06] <DrShoggoth> does anybody know how to keep touch events from bringing up the android keyboard? http://codepen.io/drshoggoth/pen/JoyVrX
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