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  1. # Session Start: Sun Feb 15 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  4. # [00:01] <JeZxLee> Hi, I have a problem with HTML5 and Firefox - on I.E. and Chrome my HTML5 game loads in less than 5 seconds, but on Firefox it takes 25 seconds to load? Here is my HTML5 game: http://lettersfall.com
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  12. # [00:14] <careerharbour> if my image is stored in the same folder as the index.html and it is named: logo.svg, then I should write in the index.html: <svg src = "logo.svg"></svg> in order to display the image?
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  16. # [00:22] <Sjeeke> Use <img src="logo.svg">
  17. # [00:23] <Sjeeke> Careerharbour: depends on the image. JPEG is mostly used for images with a lot of colours (like photographs). Images with few colours (like in many cases logos or icons) are usually in GIF format. A 24 bit PNG has an alpha channel which allows for transparency.
  18. # [00:24] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: I just discovered that there is a lot of caveat in using svg, scripting and css won't apply to them when they are external
  19. # [00:24] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: So I think I will just stick to good old jpeg
  20. # [00:24] <careerharbour> Does a ICC profile add any value to my image though if I attach it to the image upon exporting?
  21. # [00:24] <Sjeeke> :)
  22. # [00:25] <Sjeeke> Yeah... I've had issues with it in the past (especially cross browser issues) when scripting mouse events in an SVG.
  23. # [00:26] <Sjeeke> Most images on the web are in a general RGB colour space, so you don't really need it.
  24. # [00:27] <Sjeeke> Also users do not tend to have colour calibrated monitors, so you'll rarely get colours the same on all screens.
  25. # [00:28] <Sjeeke> So in my opinion an ICC profile is not going to be all that helpful.
  26. # [00:28] <Sjeeke> I'm not sure about modern browsers, but in the past not all browsers even supported those profiles.
  27. # [00:29] <Sjeeke> And it did slow down the rendering a bit in those that did support it.
  28. # [00:30] <Sjeeke> Maybe if you're a photography geek, running some blog for other photography geeks, you might want to add profiles I guess. ;-)
  29. # [00:30] <Sjeeke> But it does add a few extra bytes to the file size.
  30. # [00:31] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: I see ok I will just not include the ICC profile then. I think it is not really useful there is not much of a difference but I need to check it across different types of computer, old and new, PC and Mac
  31. # [00:31] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: I wish to cut as much size as possible
  32. # [00:31] <Sjeeke> Good choice...
  33. # [00:31] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: thanks
  34. # [00:32] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: do you know anything about what progressive means when you export?
  35. # [00:32] <Sjeeke> Also Mac screens and PC screens tend to operate at a different setting (there is a word for it, but can't remember it) which makes PC screens slightly darker then Mac screens.
  36. # [00:32] <Sjeeke> Progressive images start displaying the whole image even when it is not yet fully loaded.
  37. # [00:33] <Sjeeke> As a result it shows up blurry at first and becomes sharper as more of the content gets loaded.
  38. # [00:33] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: do you think that this is good for user experience?
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  40. # [00:34] <Sjeeke> On a slow network connection I would think so.
  41. # [00:34] <Sjeeke> Some people say it is better usuabilty, but I recently read somewhere that research showed the opposite.
  42. # [00:35] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: What do you mean by usability?
  43. # [00:35] <Sjeeke> Unfortunately I cannot recall where I read that.
  44. # [00:35] <careerharbour> Sjeeke: So you mean that for slow networks it is better to use progressive images?
  45. # [00:35] <Sjeeke> http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Usability
  46. # [00:36] <Sjeeke> On a slow connection a user would much sooner realise that an image is being loaded...
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  48. # [00:37] <Sjeeke> ...at a particular location in your web page. Otherwise it would show a white space and slowly load and display the image from top to bottom.
  49. # [00:37] <Sjeeke> It is also always best to set width and height on the img element.
  50. # [00:38] <Sjeeke> That way the browser knows how big the space it needs to reserve for the image. If you do not do that the browser will first have to load the complete image to figure out its height and width.
  51. # [00:39] <Sjeeke> This makes rendering the page quicker and prevents jerkiness (prevent content from jumping around the screen during load time).
  52. # [00:40] <Sjeeke> http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Web_usability
  53. # [00:41] <Sjeeke> Good luck with that... I'm of to bed now. :-)
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  55. # [00:42] <careerharbour> Wow, I just discovered that this wikiwand is great!
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  100. # [02:22] <delicado> http://jsfiddle.net/z5xzp7g8/, how is the radial fill done in HTML5 canvas? i am trying to implement an radial fill optimized for GLSL using HTML canvas as the test-bed. but as you see, it looked different. I only test this on google chrome's. how does it do on other browsers?
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  217. # [07:29] <FlumeRouge> Hi! HTML5/CSS3 noob here. I am using "transform:scale(2.0)" to double the size of an img on my page, but it doesn't make the containing span grow in size, so the image now overlaps content in next span over. How do I make the containing span scale along with the img?
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  219. # [07:40] <FlumeRouge> Hmm. Ignoring transform and simply setting img width seemed to do it.
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