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  147. # [05:41] <jdrobinson314> looking for an html5+js bare window pane for linux, i'm trying to 'bootstrap' an application to it. Any good kits based on geko or webkit or something similar?
  148. # [05:41] <moo-_-> jdrobinson314: yes
  149. # [05:41] <moo-_-> jdrobinson314: check what atom the editor is using
  150. # [05:41] <moo-_-> and then there are couple of others
  151. # [05:42] <moo-_-> and here you go: http://stackoverflow.com/a/4869764/315168
  152. # [05:43] <jdrobinson314> bless you.
  153. # [05:44] <moo-_-> jdrobinson314: np
  154. # [05:44] <moo-_-> welcome to the interesting world of cramming HTML5 into desktop
  155. # [05:46] <jdrobinson314> I kind of want to gut GTK from my linux install and I'm thinking of writing something based around HTML5, and if i can find a way to do that wi=thout the base implementation hogging processor I might just.
  156. # [05:48] <moo-_-> if you are writing from the scratch I suggest QT Quick
  157. # [05:48] <moo-_-> It is JS + CSSish language
  158. # [05:48] <moo-_-> and works much, much, better with native
  159. # [05:49] <moo-_-> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_Quick_Tutorial
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  162. # [06:01] <jdrobinson314> Atom looks fantastic, thanks for that pointer, wish I had come to this channel a while back, just got back on IRC for the first time in ~8 years. Nice to be able to log in and find real people rather than wade through the deeply encumbered mess of an internet forum.
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  166. # [06:07] <moo-_-> jdrobinson314: consider yourself lucky, as you might not come across answer here often. but if you eventually do the answers tend to be at the better end of the spectrum,
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  171. # [06:46] <Mmango> By the way, if #html5 is empty, you can check out #html, #web, and even ##javascript.
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  194. # [07:36] <jdrobinson314> Much appreciated, going to shelve all this for now and look at it tomorrow. bye all.
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  269. # [10:27] <Katharsis> what is the best web tool for respo testing now?
  270. # [10:27] <Katharsis> the best == has the best impact on reality
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  295. # [11:05] <dahlfors_> the only thing I use except testing on real devices is chrome canary
  296. # [11:06] <Katharsis> dahlfors_: lol, it hasn't support for linux
  297. # [11:07] <dahlfors_> on os x, it has the best support for responsive
  298. # [11:07] <dahlfors_> not sure if the same responsive features exist in chromium
  299. # [11:07] <dahlfors_> you'll have to see if you can find out
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  301. # [11:08] <dahlfors_> yes. the same one seems to exist in chromium. http://blog.chromium.org/2014/09/responsive-web-design-with-devtools.html
  302. # [11:08] <dahlfors_> it can emulate a selection of devices with different resolution, size and ppi
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  380. # [14:23] <palosterud> Any suggestions for fastest and easiest grid css system to use for a pretty basic html page atm.?
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  382. # [14:27] <dahlfors_> bootstrap's grid functionality is quite popular
  383. # [14:27] <palosterud> dahlfors_: Yeah but it's pretty extensive framework
  384. # [14:28] <dahlfors_> http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
  385. # [14:28] <dahlfors_> ^ you can customize and just fetch bootstrap's grid and ignore the rest
  386. # [14:29] <dahlfors_> I'm not a big fan of bootstrap. but the grid is neat
  387. # [14:29] <Sharaal> +1 for bootstrap
  388. # [14:29] <palosterud> what about flexbox?
  389. # [14:30] <Sharaal> whats the criterium for you against bootstrap? extensive means you need a high performance css thing?
  390. # [14:31] <palosterud> It should just be small and easy to use.
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  392. # [14:31] <Sharaal> so I don't see an argument against bootstrap
  393. # [14:31] <palosterud> "small"
  394. # [14:32] <Sharaal> thats no argument
  395. # [14:32] <dahlfors_> 14:24 < dahlfors_> http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
  396. # [14:32] <dahlfors_> 14:25 < dahlfors_> ^ you can customize and just fetch bootstrap's grid and ignore the rest
  397. # [14:32] <dahlfors_> you don't need everything from bootstrap. and you can get just the part you need - the css for the grid. bootstrap is modular
  398. # [14:32] <palosterud> great
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  400. # [14:34] <Sharaal> customizing to save size can be slow your side cause of not able to use public cdn
  401. # [14:35] <palosterud> Right now I found a 50 line complete css that fits my needs: http://codepen.io/chriscoyier/pen/eGcLw
  402. # [14:35] <Sharaal> yes thats the reason why this is stupid and I would recommend using bootstrap
  403. # [14:36] <Sharaal> your 50 lines are e.g. not responsive
  404. # [14:36] <palosterud> It doesn't has to be
  405. # [14:37] <Sharaal> ok
  406. # [14:37] <palosterud> Anymore than just normal percentage scaling of screen with
  407. # [14:37] <palosterud> no reflowing of boxes
  408. # [14:39] <palosterud> thanks for the bootstrap-only-grid I'll look at it also
  409. # [14:42] <Sharaal> palosterud: if you care about the size and the performance of your page: http://www.bootstrapcdn.com/
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