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  233. # [11:11] <rajrajraj> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xs1hMCr0 and error is https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YbRUrd0s/Screenshot_1.jpg on firefox. can anyone help plz
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  240. # [11:36] <patsToms> rajrajraj, http://jsbin.com/welosejime/1/edit?html,js,console,output
  241. # [11:36] <patsToms> ir works in firefox
  242. # [11:36] <patsToms> oh, no, sorry
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  264. # [12:15] <Appelkanon> Hello people I'm appelkanon
  265. # [12:15] <Appelkanon> I have a question about a webshop i'm trying to start, has anyone ever done this?
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  269. # [12:26] <Android0> Appelkanon the correct term is ecommerce & Just ask what you came to ask
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  272. # [12:28] <Appelkanon> i can't seem to find out how to build a shoppingcart, is it possible to do this with just html and javascript or is there another language needed? can't find out how to build one
  273. # [12:35] <Android0> No. The solution depends on your problem, do you really wish to build an ecommerce site from scratch? Is it for learning purposes or are you planing on using it in a live site?
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  277. # [12:38] <Android0> Appelkanon I'm just going through out some words, then google :) mysql, php, python, wordpress, shopify, woocomerce, frameworks
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  280. # [12:39] <Appelkanon> it's for both, i really want to become more skilled in programming, also i want some income to pay for my education(Network Administrator), it is hard to find a decent job were I live
  281. # [12:40] <Appelkanon> tnx sir! i will google some of them
  282. # [12:40] <dahlfors> I'd recommend having a look at tictail.com
  283. # [12:40] <dahlfors> they provide a pretty neat service for setting up webshops
  284. # [12:40] <Sharaal> I would have a look at magento, its a ecommerce system
  285. # [12:41] <Appelkanon> thanks for all the info ppl :-D
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  287. # [12:45] <dahlfors> and whatever you do, never even consider eshop plugin for wordpress
  288. # [12:46] <dahlfors> I doubt there's worse code in use on the whole internet
  289. # [12:46] <Sharaal> depends on if it works or not
  290. # [12:47] <dahlfors> it is possible to get working, kind of
  291. # [12:47] <Sharaal> wordpress is not the holy grale of clean code, but it works pretty well and is must have knowledge imo, but don't know how good the ecommerce plugin is
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  293. # [12:47] <Appelkanon> you mean security-wise? or just slow?
  294. # [12:48] <dahlfors> Sharaal: wordpress itself is no prob. I was talking about the eshop plugin for it
  295. # [12:48] <dahlfors> written by some 3rd party copy-paste developer
  296. # [12:48] <Sharaal> never saw
  297. # [12:48] <Sharaal> but I would evaluate this if magento is to heavy
  298. # [12:49] <Sharaal> but independ what solution: I would highly avoid to write self an ecommerce system
  299. # [12:49] <dahlfors> there are several ecommerce solutions for wordpress. some of them are probably good. eshop is not
  300. # [12:50] <Sharaal> especially for him I would avoid it ^^
  301. # [12:50] <dahlfors> yes. building an own eshop is not something a beginner should do. it's hard to get security right
  302. # [12:51] <dahlfors> and time is usually better spent elsewhere
  303. # [12:51] <Sharaal> for learning yes, for use in production no. not if he must ask if its possible in html/js that says "I don't know what I do"
  304. # [12:51] <dahlfors> exactly
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  306. # [12:55] <Appelkanon> Yeah that is right, just thought maybe I would learn something from it. not really great for me as a beginner perhaps
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  309. # [12:57] <Sharaal> As beginner I would start to make a simple web page that shows information, but without any interaction
  310. # [12:58] <Sharaal> do it own with html/css, add some server side rendered things, add some client side rendered things, use wordpress, make own template for wordpress, something like these steps
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  388. # [15:00] <Jeffool> Hey gang. Looking for insight on where to begin researching for a tool I want to make for a site. (Like most asking questions, I'm obviously no savant.)
  389. # [15:01] <Jeffool> Ideally: Three drop-down boxes, each with several price/picture options, with some inter-dependencies, and a number entry field, to let users create items for a store. Where do I even begin? Does this have a name already?
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  507. # [18:36] <taurgal> Hie
  508. # [18:37] <taurgal> MSD says there is a pubdate attribute to time in their article about the <article> element/tag
  509. # [18:37] <taurgal> but this is nowhere else to be found...
  510. # [18:37] <taurgal> see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/article
  511. # [18:37] <taurgal> did I miss something?
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  513. # [18:41] <taurgal> Ok, seems I misspelled pubdate in my google search (pudbate<>pubdat...)
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  529. # [18:53] <moo-_-> Jeffool: hey
  530. # [18:53] <moo-_-> Jeffool: https://github.com/miohtama/jquery-interdependencies
  531. # [18:53] <moo-_-> if you have any questions I am the author
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  553. # [19:31] <Jeffool> moo-_-, awesome of you, thanks. But not what I had in mind. I don't really know how to ask what I'm looking for, exactly.
  554. # [19:32] <moo-_-> Jeffool: it has interdependencies - that's all I caught up :)
  555. # [19:32] <Jeffool> I'm hoping to have option A, option B, option C, and size (user input number). But if they choose Option A, then the possibilities in B and C should change. etc. (If that makes sense.)
  556. # [19:32] <Jeffool> Would I not call that interdependencies?
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  558. # [19:33] <moo-_-> Jeffool: what you can do is that you dynamically modify the <option>s of <select> B when <select> A changes
  559. # [19:33] <moo-_-> Jeffool: but if it is moderately complex I'd write it by hand with jQuery
  560. # [19:33] <moo-_-> and then add <option data-xxx> attributes which I use to populate the selects
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  562. # [19:34] <moo-_-> Jeffool: here is a tutorial http://www.sanwebe.com/2013/05/select-box-change-dependent-options-dynamically
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  565. # [19:36] <Jeffool> Wow man, thanks a lot. I really appreciate it!
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  567. # [19:39] <moo-_-> Jeffool: good question, good answers :)
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  662. # [22:22] <niilos> hi*
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  667. # [22:28] <niilos> I want to separate menus and headers from the real content of a page. Is there a content tag or something like that?
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