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  4. # [00:00] <cbg-fynrir> I get this when trying to join it: ##php :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
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  13. # [00:13] <daixtr> cbg-fynrir: did you authenticate?
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  15. # [00:15] <cbg-fynrir> Say what?
  16. # [00:15] <cbg-fynrir> How do I do that?
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  95. # Session Ident: #html5
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  99. # [02:26] * Topic is 'Ask any question about HTML5 & Friends || HTML5 Spec for Developers: http://developers.whatwg.org || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.info http://mzl.la/9giLwR || Channel logs: http://j.mp/cG7UDa'
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  179. # [06:22] <Sisco> I'm looking for an html5 coder for hire, who follows google web fundamentals standard, msg me
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  246. # [09:49] <Sharaal> never heard about the google web fundamentals before ^^
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  248. # [09:50] <dahlfors> same
  249. # [09:50] <dahlfors> sounds more like recommendations than a standard to me as well..
  250. # [09:54] <Sharaal> seems so
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  291. # [11:38] <russum> I can't seem to catch a 403 error on dynamically added <img />. I tried defining <img onerror="…" /> before the src="…", I tried running $('img').error(function() {…}) as soon as the image was dynamically added but nothing seems to work, any suggestions?
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  296. # [11:48] <russum> This seems to be something Google related: here's an example: https://jsfiddle.net/abbLy15r/ this first error works as expected, the image src is replaced but the second one (wrong url from Google) does not call the onerror event…
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  299. # [11:52] <russum> so Google returns a placeholder image but also error 400/403/404 which breaks the image AND does not call the onerror event… :( any suggestions how can I catch this?
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  305. # [12:00] <gepetobio> Problem: a client wants a button on his website that - when clicked - it starts a screen reader. It’s a website about visual impared users. For me, it doesn’t make sense to have a button that activates a screen reader once the visually impared user would get to the website already using a screen reader. But I have to convince the client his request doesn’t make sense… is there even a way to create such a button?
  306. # [12:01] <lewellyn> gepetobio: how would it start the screen reader? ;)
  307. # [12:02] <gepetobio> yeah, that’s my point… this is what I said. I just wanted some kind of article to show him that’s not even possible. Some clients are stubborn…
  308. # [12:03] <gepetobio> tbh, he wanted the screen reader to automatically start reading the page as you load the page… the button was his idea as a “fallback” solution :-(
  309. # [12:04] <gepetobio> and his second “fallback” solution was: can we record the content as an audio and start playing as soon as the page load?
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  311. # [12:05] <lewellyn> "can we piss off every single user?"
  312. # [12:07] <gepetobio> exactly!
  313. # [12:07] <gepetobio> more thant that, imagine you are using a screen reader and a audio starts on top of that!
  314. # [12:07] <gepetobio> nightmare
  315. # [12:09] <russum> how do I check with javascript whether an image is broken / didn't load, after it broke, i.e. without the "onerror" event?
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  318. # [12:14] <russum> ok, apparently there's a related "bug": https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299138
  319. # [12:15] <lewellyn> gepetobio: that's what you should do... take two different voices and start them like 2 seconds offset from each other on the same page. say Microsoft Sam and Microsoft Anna.
  320. # [12:15] <lewellyn> just a lorem ipsum page and have them read it. :)
  321. # [12:15] <lewellyn> that should get the point across.
  322. # [12:16] <lewellyn> if not, do a second one with a button that starts a voice and have the other voice auto start (just like a screen reader would)
  323. # [12:16] <gepetobio> yeah… good idea. I do want to make a point in a polite way. These demos seem a good way of doing that
  324. # [12:17] <gepetobio> tks lewellyn ;-)
  325. # [12:17] <lewellyn> i'm good at being irritating to make a point. :)
  326. # [12:20] <gepetobio> hahahaha but still a polite slap in the face
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  330. # [12:22] <lewellyn> gepetobio: hopefully that avoids trying to get a technical "this can't be done" conclusion :)
  331. # [12:23] <lewellyn> basically you're being asked to piss of the sighted users, the ones using screen readers in a gui browser, AND the ones using screen readers in text browsers (who would end up launching the other audio as a download...). all while pointlessly consuming expensive bandwidth.
  332. # [12:23] <lewellyn> also, avoid ajax if you're targeting screen readers. :)
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  334. # [12:25] <lewellyn> pretty much everyone i've done web work with related to screen readers isn't happy unless it works in lynx. (even if that's not the rule, that's the symptom of "correct" behavior)
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  336. # [12:25] <lewellyn> pages changing under your nose when you can't see the page is probably quite frustrating. :P
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  338. # [12:27] <lewellyn> even if your screen reader tries to be useful, "Button 'Clear' now disabled. Button 'Clear' changed: now 'Cleared'. Table changed. [...]" isn't going to be fun. :(
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  355. # [13:03] <gepetobio> all noted! Firing up an email to client soon ;)
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  691. # [23:44] <thecoolguy> Hello
  692. # [23:44] <thecoolguy> I was wondering how would i create the gradient portion of this image ? http://i.imgur.com/xh7iadn.png
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