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  9. # [00:07] <mattypants> Was disconnected, so in case I missed any responses: I looking for some decent html5 complete layout markup examples
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  11. # [00:07] <mattypants> for entire pages
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  63. # [02:23] <mattypants> is the main element deprecated or on its way out or anything?
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  112. # [03:53] <mattypants> I'm trying to wrap my head around explicit <section> elements. Using this theme as an example, which sections of the following page would be an appropriate use of <section>?: http://demo.themesuite.com/automotive/service.html
  113. # [03:56] <mattypants> "What can we do for you?" and "Things To Consider" have naturally occuring headings; does that make them sections?
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  455. # [17:40] <Kage> What do you do when your HTML5 application causes web browsers to crash :(
  456. # [17:40] <Sharaal> fix it
  457. # [17:40] <Kage> seamlying randomly
  458. # [17:40] <Kage> Sharaal: how?
  459. # [17:40] <Sharaal> show your last changes
  460. # [17:41] <Kage> Sharaal: thing is, it only does it like 1 in 100 times
  461. # [17:41] <Sharaal> revert them, test it, step by step add them and show when it crashes
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  463. # [17:41] <Kage> and I have no idea what change causes it
  464. # [17:41] <Sharaal> mmh, difficult
  465. # [17:42] <Kage> Sharaal: be great if browsers produce a crash log
  466. # [17:42] <Kage> It only seems to do it in chrome and IE
  467. # [17:42] <Kage> and it could be totally different reasons
  468. # [17:42] <Sharaal> try to locate it when it happens
  469. # [17:44] <Kage> Sharaal: I get the feeling it is likely related to DataURLs
  470. # [17:44] <Kage> And WebGL canvases
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  472. # [17:45] <Kage> Seems like if you try to do too much with a WebGL canvas, too quickly, it causes crashes in browsers
  473. # [17:45] <Kage> might be a memory issue
  474. # [17:46] <Sharaal> have no experience with webgl, but yes that sounds like a good startpoint
  475. # [17:46] <Kage> Sharaal: well, I am following all web standards
  476. # [17:47] <Kage> Not really my fault if resizing a element causes a browser to crash
  477. # [17:47] <Kage> Cause standards say resizing canvas elements are allowed
  478. # [17:47] <Kage> Hell, with WebGL, it might be a driver issue
  479. # [17:47] <Sharaal> following standards is no guarantee it will works always ^^
  480. # [17:47] <Kage> *sigh*
  481. # [17:48] <Kage> Sharaal: well, it is different with browser crashes
  482. # [17:48] <Kage> Sharaal: no webpage should ever be able to crash a browser
  483. # [17:49] <Sharaal> yes, but thats a problem browser fights since years
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  488. # [17:51] <Kage> Sharaal: to some extent, I feel like the best thing to do is use crash reporting and hope the issue gets fix. Though it won't help users who are running outdated browsers
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  490. # [17:52] <Sharaal> if you using webgl outdated browser should not be a topic or?
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  492. # [17:53] <Kage> Sharaal: many outdated browsers support WebGL
  493. # [17:53] <Sharaal> ok, good to know
  494. # [17:53] <Kage> Sharaal: I also have a 2d context for older ones
  495. # [17:53] <Kage> Though they seem to crash less
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  497. # [17:53] <Sharaal> I have to go, train :) good luck to find more details for your issue
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  527. # [18:49] <bel3atar> how do I convince somebody not to use flash? They're building an online poker game
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  544. # [19:15] <dkm> bel3atar: tell them 1999 called, they want their technology back
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  546. # [19:17] <bel3atar> dkm: lol
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  548. # [19:17] <bel3atar> why would anybody use flash then?
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  551. # [19:21] <Kage> bel3atar: flash isn't supported on iPhone nor newer Android devices, and is starting to fall out of favor entirely on desktops
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  555. # [19:24] <Kage> bel3atar: Reasons to use flash, on desktops, at least it does have wider and more standardized.
  556. # [19:24] <Kage> support
  557. # [19:25] <Kage> At least with WebGL, people on IE9 and 10 aren't supported (though they do have canvas support)
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  609. # [21:03] <Sisco> I'm looking to hire a coder who will follow Google Web Fundamentals for a project, message me, thanks!
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  692. # [23:24] <Perseus0> hey all
  693. # [23:25] <Perseus0> have a sidebar that doesn't recognize the end of the page
  694. # [23:25] <Perseus0> i have tried loads of css tricks and what not
  695. # [23:25] <Perseus0> but it's still stuck on the same place
  696. # [23:25] <Perseus0> any thoughts?
  697. # [23:26] <Perseus0> #css
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