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  56. # [01:05] <Perseus0> good evening, how to implement an applet in an HTML5 page? does anyone have an idea? the applet tag is no longer compatible. I'm using the object tag but I'm not entirely sure of its parameters.
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  64. # [01:15] <Deacyde> Perseus0: The <applet> tag is not supported in HTML5. Use <embed> or <object> instead. Found that on http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_applet.asp
  65. # [01:15] <Perseus0> Deacyde: that's what I said in my post but thanks
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  102. # [02:37] <sejb> .j
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  388. # [15:30] <rajrajraj> is there any code that can run in background of android built in browser specially when phone is locked
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  390. # [15:33] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: android browser, no
  391. # [15:33] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: haha
  392. # [15:33] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: ANY?
  393. # [15:34] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: chrome will support web workers in the future versions http://updates.html5rocks.com/2015/03/push-notificatons-on-the-open-web
  394. # [15:34] <rajrajraj> i see moo-_-
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  397. # [15:38] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: do you know where i can find specifications/documentation of android browsers
  398. # [15:38] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: android browser is open source and you can download the source code from source.android.com
  399. # [15:39] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: unless you are hardcore, don't expect it to be any use for you though
  400. # [15:39] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: no, i want documentation
  401. # [15:39] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: lol
  402. # [15:39] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: I want candies
  403. # [15:39] <rajrajraj> hah
  404. # [15:39] <moo-_-> caniuse.com and mozilla developer network documents some quirks of the android browsers
  405. # [15:39] <moo-_-> otherwise you are pretty much on your own
  406. # [15:39] <rajrajraj> seriously tired, dealing with android browser, its been a weak
  407. # [15:40] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: it's the worst
  408. # [15:40] <moo-_-> IE6 of this decade
  409. # [15:40] <moo-_-> not to mention every manufacture wants to further break it in their own way
  410. # [15:41] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: can i know how many people use android built in browser, i mean is there any stat available?
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  412. # [15:41] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: yes
  413. # [15:41] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: where?
  414. # [15:41] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: for example, google publishes their own android market share charts. they don't know how many people use android browser, but it gives rough picture.
  415. # [15:42] <moo-_-> https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
  416. # [15:42] <moo-_-> then you can check global web stats
  417. # [15:42] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: no browser related stat :(
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  419. # [15:44] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=1
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  421. # [15:45] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: detailed information is paid only
  422. # [15:46] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: omg 17.7 percent
  423. # [15:46] <rajrajraj> too much
  424. # [15:47] <theweirdn81> ello mates
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  426. # [15:49] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: just wait few years and come back :)
  427. # [15:50] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: how will i survive these few years without salary
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  429. # [15:53] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: consider doing something else, not advanced android web development :)
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  447. # [16:30] <Brunno> moo-_-, rajrajraj maybe detect the browser and give the user a sugestion tu download firefox/chrome for android?
  448. # [16:30] <rajrajraj> Brunno: haha
  449. # [16:31] <rajrajraj> Brunno: sorry
  450. # [16:31] <rajrajraj> Brunno: i can not do that
  451. # [16:31] <rajrajraj> Brunno: i mean i am not allowed
  452. # [16:34] <Brunno> rajrajraj I understand
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  454. # [16:35] <Brunno> rajrajraj then maybe you will need to go native to do this, unfortunately
  455. # [16:35] <rajrajraj> Brunno: like
  456. # [16:37] <rajrajraj> Brunno: like?
  457. # [16:38] <rajrajraj> Brunno: i could not understand by going native
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  463. # [16:44] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: write a native application instead of a web page
  464. # [16:45] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: oh
  465. # [16:45] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: no requirement is to run in browser
  466. # [16:46] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: just to note you that it is an organizational issue if anyone who is making requirements does not know the limitations of the technology and does not take any input from developers
  467. # [16:46] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: in that case I'd suggest finding an alternative employer with more healthy culture
  468. # [16:47] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: no, its not about culture and all, its about requirement of project
  469. # [16:48] <rajrajraj> moo-_-: anyways, well basically i want to run any code that can run continuously if i minimize android built in browser
  470. # [16:48] <rajrajraj> and even after if i lock the phone
  471. # [16:48] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: if it is not possible then requirements are wrong :)
  472. # [16:48] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: you can, always, build your own browser and phone :)
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  474. # [16:48] <moo-_-> rajrajraj: you can also have a requirement to build a moon rocket running on android but obviously it is not going to happen
  475. # [16:48] <Sharaal> technical not possible is a good reason to think about the requirements was good
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  477. # [16:49] <moo-_-> so whoever came up with the requirement has no idea what they are doing
  478. # [16:51] <Sharaal> the dev, so you, should advice the stakeholder that a) the requirement should never have a technical solution, thats the part the dev should decide and b) the requirement is not possible to implement
  479. # [16:52] <Sharaal> if a stakeholder say "I want a browserbased app for mobile…" I would say "you want a mobile app, if its a browserbased or native thats my decision"
  480. # [16:52] <Sharaal> in a perfect world :)
  481. # [16:53] <rajrajraj> Sharaal: sometimes things are are not that easy
  482. # [16:53] <rajrajraj> Sharaal: anyways thanks for your suggestion
  483. # [16:55] <Sharaal> yes, in a world like this development would be very easy, but this would be boring :)
  484. # [16:56] <dahlfors_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
  485. # [16:56] <dahlfors_> that problem :)
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  487. # [16:59] <Sharaal> tz, I must google what "orthogonal" is :(
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  492. # [17:03] <rajrajraj> alright thanks for info every one
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  728. # [22:46] <chaitime> sup
  729. # [22:47] <chaitime> anyone ever have an issue where a div doesnt stay overflow-x when it snaps into mobile mode?
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  747. # [23:15] <chaitime> jonno11_ hakker sup niggas
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  749. # [23:18] <chaitime> Megaf_: f u 2 nigga
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  764. # [23:42] <jonno11_> chaitime: what?
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  766. # [23:42] <chaitime> jonno11_: you heard me nigga
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  768. # [23:42] <jonno11_> No I didn't
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  770. # [23:44] <chaitime> jonno11_: sup man how are you doing?
  771. # [23:44] <jonno11_> Yeah not bad, you?
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  773. # [23:47] <chaitime> jonno11_: constipated
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