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  54. # [02:09] <ruibrito> I want to capture video and audio from my camera and microphone and them stored it into a file or stream it to server. So far I understand that it is possible to capture both separated and sync the video and audio later. I also looked into the getusermedia and WebRTC. What I still don't understand is which of all of them is the best approach is any?
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  58. # [02:19] <moo-_-> ruibrito: webrtc can capture video and audio multiplexed stream. I don't believe there is need for manual syncing.
  59. # [02:20] <ruibrito> @moo-_- so webrtc would be the best way to go about doing what I am setting myself to do, in your opinion?
  60. # [02:20] <moo-_-> ruibrito: it is not the best way, it is the only way
  61. # [02:21] <moo-_-> unless you want to do it in Flash
  62. # [02:21] <ruibrito> @moo-_- no flash, please :P
  63. # [02:21] <moo-_-> ruibrito: good opinion :)
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  65. # [02:22] <ruibrito> @moo-_- are you aware if this standard will be implemented by most browsers, I know that chrome and firefox have already done
  66. # [02:22] <ruibrito> @moo-_- I understand it is something they should, but they don't always follow good sense
  67. # [02:22] <moo-_-> ruibrito: you can check the status on caniuse.com
  68. # [02:23] <moo-_-> ruibrito: it is not in our control to decide if they will do it or not. your service won't simply work with those browsers and in that case you can ask the user to install an alternative browser.
  69. # [02:23] <moo-_-> ruibrito: for example, apple never exposes their plans beforehand
  70. # [02:24] <moo-_-> apple and microsoft have some controversy with codecs and patents
  71. # [02:24] <moo-_-> if they are assholes they might not do it
  72. # [02:24] <ruibrito> @moo-_- love this page, thank you for showing it to me. I can see that the Apple world (safari and iOS), and IE have not yet implemented WebRTC
  73. # [02:24] <moo-_-> ruibrito: caniuse.com is the best thing since sliced bread
  74. # [02:24] <ruibrito> @moo-_- has a bit slow writting, you already said what I wrote
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  76. # [02:26] <ruibrito> @moo-_- I think you are right, I shouldn't worry to much just now, if I do I will never do anything. If later on they still haven't implemented I just ask for a different browser or will use an alternative method when I detect requests from those browsers :)
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  80. # [02:29] <ruibrito> @moo-_- thank you for the feedback :) will keep the channel inform, thanks again
  81. # [02:29] <moo-_-> ruibrito: well, there will be bigger guys facing the same problem
  82. # [02:29] <moo-_-> ruibrito: maybe zuckerberg or somebody will make a deal from under the table with Tim Cook
  83. # [02:31] <ruibrito> @moo-_- if you know something like that in advance, let me know so I can see some stock options xD
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  87. # [02:43] <suga> hey all
  88. # [02:43] <suga> anyone around tonight?
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  90. # [02:44] <ruibrito> many of us are here tonight, or maybe not so night for some :P
  91. # [02:45] <suga> i just started taking a mobile app development course, so they are teaching us some html
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  93. # [02:46] <ruibrito> thats cool, it is always good to learn new things :) congrats on taking that first step
  94. # [02:46] <suga> is it possible to turn a excel spreadsheet into an app? without using some crazy website?
  95. # [02:46] <suga> its 8 week course, we are suppose to learn to make some apps by the end lol i really hope we do i find it very interesting
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  97. # [02:47] <ruibrito> you have to elaborate more on that, I dont think I fully understood you
  98. # [02:47] <suga> if i made a spreadsheet in excelt that does something, can you turn that into an app?
  99. # [02:47] <suga> some youtube videos say u have to goto websites and convert it into some database or something,
  100. # [02:49] <ruibrito> what i dont understand is what you mean by turning it into an app? what do you expect to accomplish in the end?
  101. # [02:49] <suga> so others can use it. so it looks more professional then a normal spreadsheet
  102. # [02:49] <suga> not just boxes and lines
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  104. # [02:52] <ruibrito> I would love to help you, but I don't understand exactly what you wish to accomplish. From what you wrote it looks like you want to built your own spreadsheet app, and I think that is an ambitious project from someone who is just starting
  105. # [02:53] <suga> lol maybe im way ahead of myself
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  107. # [02:55] <ruibrito> nothing is impossible, and it is always good that you have ideas, they keep you motivated. you should always go for it. but you also need to have a clear image of what you want to build, so you dont waste your energy, and end up frustrated that something didn't turn out the way you wanted when you didn't even have a clear idea of that it is you wanted to create.
  108. # [02:56] <suga> yeah , i have an idea for sure, now figuring it out and getting it done might be harder
  109. # [02:57] <suga> is html the first step to learning to make mobile apps? thats what this course sounds like. then we will learn some php and css i think he said
  110. # [02:58] <ruibrito> suga: that is part of the fun, and there will be times when you feel like you can't do this, you are in way over your league, but those are the things that you can ask for help here in the channel. but first try to make it without asking help, so you have a clear idea of what to ask, people hate when you came here asking for other to solve your problem if you havent even tried to solve it yourself
  111. # [02:58] <ruibrito> html can be used to build web apps, that can be mobile friendly
  112. # [02:59] <ruibrito> and there are some frameworks like phonegap that use html and JS and them convert that into mobile apps
  113. # [02:59] <suga> yeah, teacher gaves us some html5 book to read, and homework for the week to practice
  114. # [03:00] <ruibrito> start slow, dont learn something half way, it is good to get the basics right.
  115. # [03:00] <ruibrito> and dont just follow the exercises, expand, play around, try to see if with what you already learn you can start to build parts of your ideas
  116. # [03:00] <ruibrito> that's how it starts
  117. # [03:01] <suga> yeah he has us doing basic, making links, adding pictures and color and background colors, really basics for the first week
  118. # [03:03] <suga> honestly before this class, i thought making a website was installing wordpress and plugins, but now i see whats behind that
  119. # [03:05] <ruibrito> now you know :) just practice, read the book, books are always good, if you need more material, the internet is full of it, you can also take a look at this tutorials - http://teachyourselftocode.com/html-css
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  121. # [03:06] <suga> he has us using w3schools also
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  124. # [03:15] <moo-_-> suga: you know that is bad, right?
  125. # [03:15] <moo-_-> w3schools
  126. # [03:15] <ruibrito> yeah, dont use w3schools
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  128. # [03:16] <ruibrito> it is clever tactics on the domain name, but they dont have any association with the W3C
  129. # [03:16] <ruibrito> take a look at: http://www.w3fools.com/
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  133. # [03:32] <suga> why is that bad?
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  136. # [03:35] <suga> so that site is bad for practicing html? it looks pretty simple for people to do
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  139. # [03:45] <moo-_-> suga: it teaches deprecated information, bad habits and often it is plain wrong
  140. # [03:45] <moo-_-> suga: if you want high quality sources try
  141. # [03:45] <moo-_-> http://developer.mozilla.org/
  142. # [03:46] <moo-_-> http://webplatform.org/
  143. # [03:46] <moo-_-> caniuse.com
  144. # [03:46] <moo-_-> and not some SEO optimized monetarized scam
  145. # [03:46] <suga> yeah make sense, i rather learn properly first then have to relearn
  146. # [03:48] <moo-_-> suga: also please see the links in the channel topic
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  148. # [03:51] <suga> k thanks
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  318. # [12:00] <flkjdf> I am working on a web interface that needs to display a diagram and refresh it 5 or 10 times per second. Should I use plain old Javascript image reloading, or use some video format, or something else?
  319. # [12:00] <flkjdf> The diagram is a pixel image with about 600x600 pixels.
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  575. # [20:34] <_christian_> hello
  576. # [20:37] <_christian_> can read anyone THIS or am i doing something wrong?
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  578. # [20:38] <Azrael_-> _christian_: we can read it
  579. # [20:38] <_christian_> ok, thanks ;)
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