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  75. # [02:27] <xupicor> hiyah ;) I was wandering about Path2D - seems like it would be useful to draw the same shape at different coordinates, however, I can't find an example of it? Is it really impossible without applying transform() on the context itself?
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  102. # [03:49] <MTRX> hello, allo, alo, bon jour, hola, konichiwa, ni hao ma.
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  189. # [09:43] <addNtoX> hi folks
  190. # [09:43] <addNtoX> for a current application i want to persist custom function objects in localStorage. Since localStorage only supports strings i'm now about to implement my own "mini-protocol" for that. i was wondering, because i'm probably not the first one doing that, what are some good patterns/practices for that? or is that even a bad idea and there are better approaches for what i'm trying to do?
  191. # [09:55] <Sharaal> addNtoX: my question would be, why you want to store function objects? what are these function objects? normally all functions are defined in the application and the only things which are user specific and must be stored are the data
  192. # [09:56] <Sharaal> ah, I see your question in #javascript and there is the why explained, I will read and write there :)
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  194. # [09:56] <addNtoX_> Sharaal: yes thats true
  195. # [09:57] <addNtoX_> i need those function objects in the application
  196. # [09:58] <addNtoX_> so i need to extract the data, serialize that, cache that and then read that out from the cache, deserialize and create the same function object with the data
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  198. # [09:58] <addNtoX_> i was wondering whether there are some established patterns or best practices for that
  199. # [09:59] <addNtoX_> because i want to have a more or less transparent cache mechanism that handles this functionality
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  201. # [10:00] <Sharaal> Never heard something like that. In php there are serialize functions to convert objects to strings and back, but most times someone need this its a design problem
  202. # [10:00] <addNtoX_> u never heard of caching?
  203. # [10:01] <addNtoX_> i dont think thats such a exotic use case for a "bigger" application to be honest
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  220. # [10:33] <Sharaal> caching yes, but caching of data
  221. # [10:34] <Sharaal> So I would cache the data, not function objects
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  228. # [10:44] <addNtoX_> Sharaal: sorry for the confusion. thats what i was meaning actually. i just was wondering whether there are best practices for the whole "extract data from object and put it to cache" and vice versa cycle
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  232. # [10:51] <Sharaal> add a serialize method to the objects to returns the data as json or json encoded string and a static unserialize function taking this and return the object
  233. # [10:51] <Sharaal> thats I would do
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  370. # [16:59] <Zuhaitz> Thanks... :-/
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  375. # [17:09] <Zuhaitz> I need a way to animate geographic maps and changes in time, can someone tell me the best way please?
  376. # [17:10] <_0xc6_> Zuhaitz: Check out #css and ##javascript. Also, don't spam - you are likely to get banned; we can see your previous messages
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  451. # [19:33] <aphprentice> i want to develop my own custom css framework that covers the main components, typography, buttons, etc. are there any resources that have a step by step or a barebones minimalist template covering all the html5 elements to do this?
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  458. # [19:53] <moo-_-> aphprentice: I'd suggest you copy what Bootstrap and Foundation do on their docuemntation
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  464. # [20:16] <aphprentice> moo-_- thanks yeah i was thinking about doing that with maybe a smaller framework, unfortunately bootstrap and foundation do the whole 'cover every possible scenario' setup, which leads to bloat, and then when i go in to do as you suggest i've got to spend more time just getting around
  465. # [20:17] <moo-_-> aphprentice: grab Bootstrap "CSS" page
  466. # [20:17] <moo-_-> aphprentice: they go through headings, block formats, etc.
  467. # [20:17] <moo-_-> aphprentice: then just delete unnecessary stuff
  468. # [20:17] <aphprentice> moo-_- cool, i'll give that a look too
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  490. # [21:09] <gde33> it is strange html doesnt have a nice standard outliner build in
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  492. # [21:10] <gde33> it would be cool to just do something like <outline href="foo.opml">
  493. # [21:10] <gde33> even <feed href="rss.xml"> for menues would be cool
  494. # [21:11] <gde33> and since it is xmas anyway, lets also have <a>index</a> :D
  495. # [21:13] <gde33> and <reference href="xample.com">An example</reference> that renders like [<a href="#1">1</a>] with a <reference type="reflist">
  496. # [21:15] <gde33> so that one can write a decent article and move text between pages without creating an epic mess
  497. # [21:16] <gde33> I'm sure mediawiki has some other nice things worth stealing
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  499. # [21:30] <moo-_-> gde33: outline as in...? like table of contents?
  500. # [21:31] <gde33> moo-_-: yeah, like an expandable tree
  501. # [21:31] <moo-_-> gde33: if all your content is one a single page you can get a javascript that does it for you
  502. # [21:31] <moo-_-> otherwise you might need to generate it on the server side
  503. # [21:32] <gde33> I know, it just seems nicer to have it as a html tag
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  505. # [21:32] <moo-_-> gde33: well you can propose a new tag :)
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  507. # [21:34] <gde33> I havent figured out how it should fail back.
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  510. # [21:35] <gde33> maybe just have the <outline> with a <script> inside it to fail back on
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  515. # [21:37] <gde33> moo-_-: hah, the list at the top here is exactly what I mean https://developers.whatwg.org/
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  517. # [21:38] <gde33> could make that machine readable
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  520. # [21:39] <gde33> others could then nest the opml node in their opml and have it expand :)
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  528. # [21:53] <moo-_-> gde33: well they should be interested in if they can scratch their own itch with a new tag :)
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